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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Mustaine on January 18, 2012, 07:37:02 PM
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In a private forum I posted this reply and thought the O'Club was worthy of hearing what I have to say:
Anyone who listens to metal knows one simple truth. Rust in Peace is probably the best all around example of the genera from the highest point of it's popularity. It was produced with meticulous care, and performed almost flawlessly. There are stories that they hooked a strobe tuner up to the board so each note in every solo was verified in tune. This does not mean they changed the tune of the note, they just knew if one was out and replayed the solo to fix it.
Dave was off all the drugs then, and really focused. Nick Menza probably played the best drums Megadeth had to that point in their career. Marty Friedman came from a fusion background and really played expressive riffs from Dave's examples. David Ellefson went a bit out of the norm and played almost reckless compared to earlier Megadeth. Dave... what is there to say but he put together a band that is harder, faster, meaner, technically better, and more true to the genera than Metallica ever could.
Want to talk about relevance? Rust in Peace was released September 24, 1990. Yes 1990. For comparison a few months later Metallica released that Bon Jovi produced pop-metal album. That was the beginning of the end of all that was good and right about Thrash Metal / Speed Metal. Heck Pearl Jam's "Ten" was released August 27, 1991... less than a year later.
Back to the album:
You want to hear some amazing guitar listen to the solo trade-offs at the end of Hangar 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtsD2tBPZgo). If you know a bit about them you can tell when it is Dave and when it is Marty just by listening (yes the tab tells you who also). I used to be able to play all the rhythm sections up to the raga break back in the day. I never had a 24 fret guitar and much of the solo(s) are impossible without one.
I dare that other band to make something as political, yet musically astonishing as Holy Wars...The Punishment Due (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsAZEK1bc0U). I first saw this video on Headbangers Ball. It was the first time I heard it, or anything like it. I remember the night, the place, and I also saw This exact video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpMuCrbxE8A) the same night. I was never the same since that fateful evening.
If you play guitar I challenge you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI0_2B3yJIA) to keep up with this, oh and sing while you are playing it live. I've seen it 2 times personally and had the weirdest b0ner. After you have failed at that Try this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_as0_7Zc3o). Play as precise, clean, and with no mistakes. This is where you smash the cheapest guitar you own out of respect, awe, and the smallest bit of honor you have left. I'll even give you the tab (http://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/megadeth-take-no-prisoners-guitar-tab-s13601t0) to take a shot at it.
I'd go on and on about the album all day and night, but where does it lead us? Into the past. Originally released September 19, 1986 Peace Sells... but Who's Buying? almost instantly became the mantra for MTV News. Here is a fledgling band born from a person deemed "too wild' for those other posers. Musically superior, attitude past 11, and on the cutting edge of a new genera Megadeth captured the moment and ran with it.
I could cite all evening what they did, and how great it was. All I can do is tell you. Lead by example. I will let many of our childhood idols Looney Toons show that when the galaxy is in peril they don't call Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax... or any other metal icon. They call on the the greatest of the "Big 4" to come to the rescue. See what I'm talking about? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNIABdqBxY)
I'll leave you with this opus that is probably the hardest metal song ever written, played, and I got to see live one time from the 8th row. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WTweK_8QuQ)
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Greatest metal album ever. :rock
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I own 2 copies of that tshirt. :aok
In my drunk I never did add how awesome General Vic Rattelhead is! :rock
IMHO an equal to "Eddie", and in some of the shirts I have more "evil" Muhahaha
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I could cite all evening what they did, and how great it was. All I can do is tell you. Lead by example. I will let many of our childhood idols Looney Toons show that when the galaxy is in peril they don't call Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax... or any other metal icon. They call on the the greatest of the "Big 4" to come to the rescue. See what I'm talking about? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNIABdqBxY)
What about Pantera on Spongebob?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEFKJsWbmW8
They stay up for a week straight... what's more fitting than tweakermetal?
As for Megadeth... gotta give it up for sweating bullets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucAfL1_MACM
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I was never big into Megadeth but liked alot of their stuff. Slayer was big with me and my brother. He was great on the drums. We loved playing Behind the Crooked Cross and Mandatory Suicide. Now Im playing Beatles, Stones and other 60s stuff. Old age I guess :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfWZJEeBxYE&feature=related
Since we're talking about metal, I always thought this was pretty good. This isn't the original guitarist, but a very good cover imho.
:rock
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I have never been anything close to a fan of megadeth, actually I frequently use them as an example of music I cant stand, but everything you said is true. I respect them for what they have done, and yes Rust in Peace was a great album. I dont like the music, but every album is a masterpiece in some way. As far as metal goes, I like Metallica, but I think my 2 favorite albums are Load and ReLoad. I just never could get into the whole "Thrash" genre.
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Not a fan of the vocals on these guys... but great drums and guitar. The solo in this song is EPIC!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vP8m1e9R1Y
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And now for some Epic Space Metal (one of my favorite Metal Albums):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXPIezT_LpA
Different Sub-Genre of Metal, but Bal Sagoth is damn good stuff.
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Megadeth + Motorhead at the Rave on Feb. 12.
I'm IN.
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Saw them with Disturbed and Godsmack....just absolutely fantastic.
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Saw them with Disturbed and Godsmack....just absolutely fantastic.
:rofl
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Just saw Dave Ellefson on the news the other day. I guess he's attending some seminary school or something. Don't forget about Take No Prisoners!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9UeLylS_eA
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Saw them with Disturbed and Godsmack....just absolutely fantastic.
:rofl
fixed....about the lamest cheesiest "hard rock" there is :rofl
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Saw them with Disturbed and Godsmack....just absolutely fantastic.
Don't feel bad, seen Megadeth with White Snake and Judas Priest, Priest was fantastic - white snake - who the hell put them in this lineup?
I've been a huge bay area fan, I grew up in san pablo, California pretty much when Metal went Glam except for everyone in my area which
was still purely metal - one garage band did make it though - Ugly Kid Joe had one good album for punk rockers.
I was a CD freak in high school, think I amazed over 5,000 cds basically 80s and 90s metal, I was so crazy on it I even wrote a list for it, just to keep
track of my psycho collection (even stuff thats rare).
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:rofl
Want a bigger laugh? I saw them with STP opening. 9th row center, it was an incredible show. STP, not so much. No smoking in the theater back then, we went out to the lobby and smoked while STP played. they did close with "Dead and Bloated" and we went back in to see that. it kind of rocked.
funny aside: you know how they play the PA real loud just before the main act comes on? They actually played "Stardog Champion" by Mother Love Bone right before Megadeth took the stage.
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Megadeth + Motorhead at the Rave on Feb. 12.
I'm IN.
I'm actually at my age a bit afraid of that show. I've seen Megadeth 4 or 5 times, but Motorhead kind of spooks me lol.
but yes I live in Milw, and been trying to win tickets from Lazer, I can't bring myself to buy them lol.
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I have never been anything close to a fan of megadeth, actually I frequently use them as an example of music I cant stand, but everything you said is true. I respect them for what they have done, and yes Rust in Peace was a great album. I dont like the music, but every album is a masterpiece in some way. As far as metal goes, I like Metallica, but I think my 2 favorite albums are Load and ReLoad. I just never could get into the whole "Thrash" genre.
Thank you for that consideration! I guess you are young, because even to a Metallica fan from close to my age Load and Reload are quite possibly the most horrible thing to come from metal music in the entire history of metal. I am sorry <Salute> I am not trying to be offensive to you. I just have to highly suggest you re-examine your choices in music. learn the past, and see where those two albums came from.
The highly despicable Bob Rock produced the "Black" album, and made his mark of the beast forever on the Metallica name. Moving forward he influenced so much of their music I can't even believe they as a band actually contributed other than in name. The biggest sellout in music history all started the second he became involved with the band. It is such a shame what they have become, and taints the entire genera.
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Change of plans...
Megadeth and Motorhead at the Aragon tomorrow night.
:rock
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Change of plans...
Megadeth and Motorhead at the Aragon tomorrow night.
:rock
Sweet!
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff252/DropkickYankees/BevisandButthead.gif)
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The pre-concert ritual is in full swing.
Mustaine and Killmeister had better bring the house down.
I'm anticipating many poor decisions, bruises, and general surliness.
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Change of plans...
Megadeth and Motorhead at the Aragon tomorrow night.
:rock
The brawlroom....awesome. I saw Pantera there when I was 16. It was nuts.
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Just got home.
Showed up a bit late and missed Lacuna Coil.
Caught part of Volbeat's set. They were great, and the soundmen sure earned their pay.
Motorhead was short, but fun nonetheless. Soundman was sleeping at the board.
Megadeth was short also. No encore and crappy sound. Of course the musicianship was excellent.
Will post pics and maybe some video after I collect my thoughts.