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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: SirFrancis on January 20, 2012, 05:19:08 PM
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Here a pic of my grandfather (middle) in front of a Storch.
Regards
Ike
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4784/erbenheim42stabsingfroh.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/erbenheim42stabsingfroh.jpg/)
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A short man he is. Thanks for sharing! :salute
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Awesome. Any other info that you can share about your grandfather?
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JG-3?
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:aok Rare photo indeed.
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...is anyone else going to say it?
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JG-3?
Yep. Stab./ Jg3 I'll post a pic of the emblem tommorow.
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...is anyone else going to say it?
It certainly is the elephant in the room.
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Awesome. Any other info that you can share about your grandfather?
He was an technical officer in the JG3 Udet. He tested planes. He was in Stalingrad, Italy, France and Africa.
He took a lot of pictures while flying along the countryside.
Ike
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post more of the photos! :aok
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Wow, amazing!
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post more of the photos! :aok
I agree, must scan some of those countryside photos!
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most pictures you can see here (link below). Its a slideshow running. Idk if you can copy them. If some1 needs a pic I will post it here, so it can be copied. If you infos about persons on the pic, I am happy to help.
enjoy
http://www.photoshop.com/users/eickholt/albums/1b87145ee056443993605bcc609b50cb/slideshow
http://www.photoshop.com/users/eickholt/albums/9239f5ab6ddb4afdafe729ddf8292224/slideshow
(move your mouse pointer to the bottom, so you can stop slideshow and go to other pictures)
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Thanks for sharing again truly great pics
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Those are fantastic. :aok Always interesting seeing pictures taken from the average soldiers perspective.
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Very cool. :salute
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Thanks for sharing, love to look through that kind of stuff :aok
:salute
BigRat
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Terrific photos - thanks for sharing!
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...is anyone else going to say it?
Say what? And who said it first?
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I will say it first:
keep the politics and the political BS out of this thread! SirFrancis is kind enough to share, you be kind enough to shut your pie hole and take it for it what it is.
There.
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Those pics are amazing!
Who is the Ritterkreuztraeger in the black & white series?
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I enjoyed that <S> thanks for sharing
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Thank you for sharing Ike!
These are really interesting pictures, of great historical value.
Thank you very much.
<Salute>
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I will say it first:
keep the politics and the political BS out of this thread! SirFrancis is kind enough to share, you be kind enough to shut your pie hole and take it for it what it is.
There.
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I will say it first:
keep the politics and the political BS out of this thread! SirFrancis is kind enough to share, you be kind enough to shut your pie hole and take it for it what it is.
There.
:aok
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Those pics are amazing!
Who is the Ritterkreuztraeger in the black & white series?
I think you're referring to Gunther Lutzow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_L%C3%BCtzow), who served as Geschwaderkommodore of JG3 from August 1940 to August 1942.
Thanks for sharing your grandfather's photos, SirFrancis! :salute
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I think you're referring to Gunther Lutzow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_L%C3%BCtzow), who served as Geschwaderkommodore of JG3 from August 1940 to August 1942.
Thanks for sharing your grandfather's photos, SirFrancis! :salute
yep, thats Lützow. But there some other wellknown pilots to be seen in the pictures:
Here you see Gollob (in the middle) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Gollob)
Galland (to the left) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Galland) and Lützow to the right (link was posted before)
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2777/dahlgollobltzowprot.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/dahlgollobltzowprot.jpg/)
Here you see Generalfeldmarschall Bock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_von_Bock)
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6185/generalfeldmarschallboc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/generalfeldmarschallboc.jpg/)
Here on the right side is Dahl (leftLützow, middel Gollob) (link Dahl -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_Dahl)
(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/142/ltowgollobdahlprot.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/862/ltowgollobdahlprot.jpg/)
Next one is Oesau (middle). To the right Lützow and to the left General Ritter von. Greim. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Oesau)
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7411/mertensstechmannltzowpr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/mertensstechmannltzowpr.jpg/)
Regards
Ike
ps. regarding last picture. The man on the left is Robert Ritter von Greim. I didn´t knew whos is was. But after posting this pictures I found some info about him. Seems he have been the last head of the Luftwaffe appointed by Adolf to replace Hermann Göring. I didn´t kew my grandfather met such "importand" people....
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Yow!
I wondered if it was Galland in that shot, thought "naaaaaa".
:salute
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I honestly dont see the point in modeling this plane. I predict after the first month is will be Queen of the hangar Queens.
Much rather of scene Iron Annie instead of a "spotting plane". Who is really going to bother spotting in Aces High? And arent there better options then an airplane with poorer then WW1 performance?
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I think you will be mistaken Rich
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Holy crap von bock!
:aok
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I honestly dont see the point in modeling this plane. I predict after the first month is will be Queen of the hangar Queens.
Much rather of scene Iron Annie instead of a "spotting plane". Who is really going to bother spotting in Aces High? And arent there better options then an airplane with poorer then WW1 performance?
You are easily mistaken, with the BETA arena we see signs of changes in Aces High - Aircraft with bombs cannot see GV's until extremely close (600 yrds)
This puts Storch as a very high value in the game, at 3k you will need spotters to direct ground vehicles instead of someone flying 2k away and seeing the icon.
It might not garnish the kills per tour as a P-51D, but if you want to help friendly tankers defend a base - someone is going to be upping a storch.
It's not a game changer, but does change the overall strategy on taking a base. It will not stop a Horde or etc, however a small furball will see a storch to spot and give supplies out.
As a tanker, I see this as a plus in the game, it adds realism to the game.
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When people are upping Torches... sry Storches there will definitely be people upping Wirbels as well. That will make the actual marking of ground targets with smoke a pure suicide. I also doubt there will not be too many people willing to circle around spotting targets for others to kill. I will be glad if I'm wrong though...
Thanks for sharing great pictures SirFrancis! :aok
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Yeah but you can see enemy tanks shooting from far higher, and your own tanks shooting back. Not that anyone is going to upp a storch anyways but wont they just end up wirbel bait, or fighter bait, anyways?
So now your telling me that planes without bombs will be able to see GVs from farther away? Gee thats real realistic. I didnt realize bombs had such an affect on eyesight. Are bombs really that big an issue at GV base fights? Except for Lancs carpet bombing the base? Lol, we have a hard enough time getting somebody to upp a GV to bring supplies out, how many you think will volunteer to be storch bait? To land, drop them off, and flutter off again?
Oh in the first month or two they will be buzzing around like Butterflies. After? I just hope theres empty space next to the Betty bomber.
And STILL no Soviet Level bomber!
You are easily mistaken, with the BETA arena we see signs of changes in Aces High - Aircraft with bombs cannot see GV's until extremely close (600 yrds)
This puts Storch as a very high value in the game, at 3k you will need spotters to direct ground vehicles instead of someone flying 2k away and seeing the icon.
It might not garnish the kills per tour as a P-51D, but if you want to help friendly tankers defend a base - someone is going to be upping a storch.
It's not a game changer, but does change the overall strategy on taking a base. It will not stop a Horde or etc, however a small furball will see a storch to spot and give supplies out.
As a tanker, I see this as a plus in the game, it adds realism to the game.
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Thanks for the pics, "SirFrancis". :-)
I hope the originals are properly preserved somewhere. That stuff is priceless.
MH
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When people are upping Torches... sry Storches there will definitely be people upping Wirbels as well. That will make the actual marking of ground targets with smoke a pure suicide. I also doubt there will not be too many people willing to circle around spotting targets for others to kill. I will be glad if I'm wrong though...
Thanks for sharing great pictures SirFrancis! :aok
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If they actually made the fire rates realistic for the Wirble, this wouldn't be nearly as bad.... 4 20mm guns firing at cyclic rate...please. The only way the Wirble achieved sustainable fire was only firing two guns at a time, while the other two were reloaded. We model that, and the Storch will have better odds (not a whole lot, but still better) I believe.
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"If they actually made the fire rates realistic for the Wirble, this wouldn't be nearly as bad.... 4 20mm guns firing at cyclic rate...please. The only way the Wirble achieved sustainable fire was only firing two guns at a time, while the other two were reloaded. We model that, and the Storch will have better odds (not a whole lot, but still better) I believe."
If you pulled the trigger on Wirble all the guns did fire, even though you are correct that it could not continue to fire that way for long but it would require the other pair of guns to drop out early for magazine change or some kind of forced reload procedure to have all guns firing simultaneously, but I guess it is wise to spend only so much time in modeling such complex system and in turn it does not really give much in return as the people who go through trouble upping a Wirble would be unhappy and the turret rotation speed alone seems to be a sufficient handicap already.
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