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Title: Fairey Firefly
Post by: 4Prop on January 23, 2012, 02:09:03 PM
has anyone even heard of these?

they were a british operated sea plane. here are some specs

Engine: One 2,250-hp Rolls-Royce Griffon 74 V-12 piston engine
        Weight: Empty 9,674 lbs., Max Takeoff 16,096 lbs.
        Wing Span: 41ft. 2in.
        Length: 37ft. 11in.
        Height: 14ft. 4in.
        Performance:
            Maximum Speed: 386 mph
            Cruising Speed: 220 mph
            Ceiling: 28,400 ft.
            Range: 1,300 miles
        Armament:
            Four 20-mm cannon in wings
            Underwing hardpoints for 16 60-pound rockets or two 1,000-pound bombs
number built 1533

im not asking for it now but maybe something in the future. I think its almost like a P-47 but a spitfire that can haul eggs with 4x20mm's behind it
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: 4Prop on January 23, 2012, 02:09:56 PM
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p627/thunderboltD40/firefly.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: 4Prop on January 23, 2012, 02:11:44 PM
some more behind it

 The Firefly was designed as a fleet reconnaissance aircraft for the UK's Royal Navy, and was derived from the Fairey Fulmar. First flown on 22 December 1941, the first versions were delivered in March 1943 to RNAS Yeovilton. The main version of the aircraft used during WWII was the Mk.1, which was used in all theaters of operation. Throughout its operational career, it took on increasingly more demanding roles, from fighter to anti-submarine warfare. Main variants included the F1 (with a 1,990-hp Griffon XII engine); FR1 (with an ASH radar underneath the engine); NF2 (night-fighter); Mk.IV (with new outer wing nacelles carrying fuel and an ASH scanner); the FR4, with a two-stage supercharged engine and wing root radiators in place of the earlier "chin-mounted" ones; the AS5 (with new American sonobuoys); TT5 and TT6 (target tugs); and T7 (Anti-Submarine Warfare trainer).
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Butcher on January 23, 2012, 03:03:55 PM
Well it certainly seen combat in WW2, although extremely limited - the Fairey Fulmar was more common then the Firefly was.

It started on the HMS Indefatigable, and was involved on the Attack on the german battleship Tirpitz. On Jan 45 it flew ground strikes on the oil refineries in Sumatra, even shot down a Ki.43, few days later 5 more japanese fighters were shot down. It was on a raid that sank a japanese carrier, so it certainly had its share of action in Okinawa.

It certainly served in combat, however only two squadrons the 1770 and 1772 (that I read) have seen combat. Enough to be added to aces high,
but I am curious what the perk value would be for it.

Might be 20-30 perks, while Fulmar would high ENY (30-40)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Butcher on January 23, 2012, 03:06:37 PM
Ok one problem with your data here, You are showing a POST war version of the Firefly..

The Fairy FR.1 was what seen combat, top speed would be 316 mph at 17000ft.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Karnak on January 23, 2012, 03:07:28 PM
Firefly was the first British aircraft to fly over Tokyo.

And yes, the Firefly Mk I was lower performance and not nearly as pretty.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Butcher on January 23, 2012, 03:11:52 PM
Firefly was the first British aircraft to fly over Tokyo.

And yes, the Firefly Mk I was lower performance and not nearly as pretty.

It needs to be researched which version flew these missions, His data is showing the Firefly Mk 4/5 - however I would believe the Firefly Mk I was the one in combat over sumatra and okinawa.

Not sure entirely, there is no combat logs I can find for the 1770 squadron or 1772, maybe someone with deeper ties to FAA could research that.

Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Karnak on January 23, 2012, 03:13:54 PM
It needs to be researched which version flew these missions, His data is showing the Firefly Mk 4/5 - however I would believe the Firefly Mk I was the one in combat over sumatra and okinawa.

Not sure entirely, there is no combat logs I can find for the 1770 squadron or 1772, maybe someone with deeper ties to FAA could research that.


No research needed.  Only wartime version was the Mk I.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: SectorNine50 on January 23, 2012, 03:21:44 PM
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p627/thunderboltD40/firefly.jpg)

Damn, that is a gorgeous aircraft...
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Rich52 on January 23, 2012, 06:04:18 PM
Ive been screaming for it for years. Britian was a major CV player in WW2 and yet we only have one British CV airplane and NO! British CV attacker.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: tmetal on January 25, 2012, 01:19:33 PM
Some firefly photos from an airshow back in 2008

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee24/tmetal_blk/Planes%20of%20fame%20airshow%202008/Fireflyontaxi1-1.jpg)

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee24/tmetal_blk/Planes%20of%20fame%20airshow%202008/Fireflyontaxi-1.jpg)

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee24/tmetal_blk/Planes%20of%20fame%20airshow%202008/Fireflyintheair-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: blood_scout67 on January 25, 2012, 01:49:42 PM
guys your forgeting the fairey battle it saw combat in france
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Butcher on January 25, 2012, 02:04:06 PM
Ive been screaming for it for years. Britian was a major CV player in WW2 and yet we only have one British CV airplane and NO! British CV attacker.

I have a topic out there for the Sea Hurricane and SeaFire III, I also threw out the Fulmar just for kicks.

Fulmar was nothing pretty - top speed was 275, but carried 8x 303s and did its job as a Carrier Fighter given it was completely outclassed by everything else at the time in Carrier Aviation.

Ugly and Slow is more the reason we need it!
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: EagleDNY on January 25, 2012, 02:07:42 PM
The Firefly Mk.I does meet all of the requirements for inclusion.  The 4 cannons give it the hitting power of a C-Hog, plus a couple 1000 lb'ers or a load of rockets.  Might make a nice CV attack plane if it wasn't perked.  If it was perked, I'd probably stick with a Hog -C or -4 depending upon the situation.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: 4Prop on January 25, 2012, 09:36:32 PM
The Firefly Mk.I does meet all of the requirements for inclusion.  The 4 cannons give it the hitting power of a C-Hog, plus a couple 1000 lb'ers or a load of rockets.  Might make a nice CV attack plane if it wasn't perked.  If it was perked, I'd probably stick with a Hog -C or -4 depending upon the situation.

roger that!
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Butcher on January 25, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
The Firefly Mk.I does meet all of the requirements for inclusion.  The 4 cannons give it the hitting power of a C-Hog, plus a couple 1000 lb'ers or a load of rockets.  Might make a nice CV attack plane if it wasn't perked.  If it was perked, I'd probably stick with a Hog -C or -4 depending upon the situation.

I'd vote on it, good catch ! :)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: MAINER on January 26, 2012, 05:29:52 AM
+1
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Shifty on January 26, 2012, 07:17:20 PM
I think the Firefly FR.1 was a gorgeous bird as stated earier it saw service in both the ETO and PTO. I'd love to see it added.
 :aok

(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/203/pics/9_25.jpg)

(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/203/pics/9_16.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: 4Prop on January 26, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
I truley think the mk.1 should be added some where along the road
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Butcher on January 26, 2012, 11:33:00 PM
I truley think the mk.1 should be added some where along the road

I am kinda torn on this, the Fulmar.......or Firefly. Given the late war arena, the firelfy has a better chance.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Martyn on January 27, 2012, 06:54:06 AM
I'm waiting for the delivery of performance reports/details from the UK National Archives for the Westland Whirlwind and Fairey Firefly.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Fish42 on January 28, 2012, 03:44:16 AM
I'm waiting for the delivery of performance reports/details from the UK National Archives for the Westland Whirlwind and Fairey Firefly.

(http://creditwithdrawal.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/whos-awsome1.jpg)


I cannot wait to read what you get on both  :D
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Fish42 on January 28, 2012, 03:47:20 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ja676MG45Zg/Sy-MA8FfAII/AAAAAAAABQc/u2-Zqv7NZdE/s1600/Fairey%2Bfirefly.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Martyn on January 28, 2012, 11:26:23 AM
Those piccies are awesome too!
 :x
I love the dawg. I really love the picture of the Fairey too.

I see a wing mounted radome on it - I presume its post war, but I believe the US managed to put radar on single seat fighters during the war. I'm seem to recall a version of the US Marines F6F night fighter ? ... ? Probably wrong, but someone will correct me I'm sure.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: 4Prop on January 28, 2012, 12:37:30 PM
Those piccies are awesome too!
 :x
I love the dawg. I really love the picture of the Fairey too.

I see a wing mounted radome on it - I presume its post war, but I believe the US managed to put radar on single seat fighters during the war. I'm seem to recall a version of the US Marines F6F night fighter ? ... ? Probably wrong, but someone will correct me I'm sure.

there definantly was nightfighter versions of the F6F and even the corsair I think. i dont know witch models were designated, or if they had onboard radar units