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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tupac on January 25, 2012, 11:04:33 AM
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We ended up with about 6 inches of very badly needed rain last night
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still raining here
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we got between 4 and 5 inches, but it is slowly stopping now.
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Yep, it was a good long soak.
:cheers:,
Wab
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I know it's been a while but why does everybody have to forget how to drive in it?
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im still in MA waiting for snow to last on the ground for more than two days... :rolleyes:
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I know it's been a while but why does everybody have to forget how to drive in it?
No freakin kidding. Every time a little rain could comes along everybody's head goes completely up their ass. :furious
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No freakin kidding. Every time a little rain could comes along everybody's head goes completely up their ass. :furious
haha, you guys think rain is bad, come up north and try snow!!
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Pouring east of Houston now.
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No freakin kidding. Every time a little rain could comes along everybody's head goes completely up their ass. :furious
There were three wrecks in my 12 mile commute this morning. I almost turned around and went home before some jackwagon plowed into me. :mad:
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That dam system just kept mocking us in Kansas. It would hoover right at the state line but would never crossed it. :furious
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Pouring east of Houston now.
just stopped here
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up here in vermont we need snow lol :D gotta get a little seat time on the sled
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haha, you guys think rain is bad, come up north and try snow!!
You don't get to talk... ;)
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Rain.... So thats what that wet stuff was. I knew i had knew the name of it before but it's been SO long since I've seen it I had forgot. :bolt:
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You don't get to talk... ;)
in Mass we havent even had a true snow storm since... October...
which is strange because we rarely get snow in october and its usually december-february when the storms hit good...
we've had 3 small storms and the snow melted by two days later (in dec-january)...
which usually stays on the ground for a week or so...
which is hilarious because i dont remember any years past where the thermometer on the bank landed at 65 degrees... in january...
when we usually have a highest temperature OF THE MONTH of 40 degrees...
in january... :noid
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5 and a half inches got me a day off work due to flooded roads.
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Hey send some of that wet stuff down here would ya?
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in Mass we havent even had a true snow storm since... October...
which is strange because we rarely get snow in october and its usually december-february when the storms hit good...
we've had 3 small storms and the snow melted by two days later (in dec-january)...
which usually stays on the ground for a week or so...
which is hilarious because i dont remember any years past where the thermometer on the bank landed at 65 degrees... in january...
when we usually have a highest temperature OF THE MONTH of 40 degrees...
in january... :noid
I'm excited, this weekend's high is supposed to be 16 degrees! Talk about a darn heat wave! Might have to break out the shorts :x
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I'm excited, this weekend's high is supposed to be 16 degrees! Talk about a darn heat wave! Might have to break out the shorts :x
if only i lived in alaska too bud :aok id be skiing every other day. im pissed that we havent had any great snow making weather yet here. it felt like april all january. and people say global warming isnt real :rolleyes:
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My Daughter is working on a internship in Alaska.
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and people say global warming isnt real :rolleyes:
Actually, the record high in January for Medway Mass. was 68 degrees. It was set in 1950.
Global warming must be taking FOREVER.
:rolleyes:
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Actually, the record high in January for Medway Mass. was 68 degrees. It was set in 1950.
Global warming must be taking FOREVER.
:rolleyes:
check the last 70 years compared to that temperature melvin then get back to me on this one :aok
edit: it hit 65 a week and a half ago iirc
lemme just add one note to this post... a temperature check has to be taken of the area as a whole and the average overall otherwise it is pointless to see a number and think one idea.
within the last 200 years the mean global temperature has risen from 13.6 degrees C to 14.9 degrees C studies have shown that the majority of this temperature rise has escalated and occured within the last 50 years with the temperature difference being a mean of 13.9 in 1960 and 14.9 in 2009 <S>
OHH! and yes! global warming DOES take forever :lol hell they even say the sun is included as a factor by comparing temperatures taken on mars also and the fact that mars's global temperature has risen alongside of ours.
but this thread isnt about global warming so lets leave it at this
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if only i lived in alaska too bud :aok id be skiing every other day. im pissed that we havent had any great snow making weather yet here. it felt like april all january. and people say global warming isnt real :rolleyes:
Global warming isn't causing this. Just a crazy weather pattern being driven by the NAO (North Atlantic Oscilation) and La Nina. Its happened before and it will happen again.
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Global warming isn't causing this. Just a crazy weather pattern being driven by the NAO (North Atlantic Oscilation) and La Nina. Its happened before and it will happen again.
It's the magnetic pole shift;we are sucking the oil out and the iron core starts grinding out of lube.:)
The Euro governments must take it serious if they spend big $$ ,in this economic crisis, to find out what's going on;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CFdBPrC4f0
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I know it's been a while but why does everybody have to forget how to drive in it?
I think its just TExas Drivers in General...
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I think its just TExas Drivers in General...
As 2ADoc said, that is what we get for living south of the taco curtain.
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Global warming isn't causing this. Just a crazy weather pattern being driven by the NAO (North Atlantic Oscilation) and La Nina. Its happened before and it will happen again.
so... youre saying that martian temperatures are rising parallel to earth's because of OUR north atlantic and la nina? along with the proof that this is the sun's most active period ever recorded? whether we are the reason or not, the proof stands. the earth's temperature is rising, la nina is created by higher temperatures chaser just to let you know, the ice cap melting creates a speedier NAO also, less salt in the water due to ice melt destabilizes the weather patterns, and the jet stream is moving north every year.
Tell springfield MA this is all just normal and they'd probably slap ya one too... :uhoh
granted, the earth's weather patterns have repeated themselves but this expedient?
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within the last 200 years the mean global temperature has risen from 13.6 degrees C to 14.9 degrees C
Umm, show me where I can find accurate weather data that goes back to 1812.
Surgeon General Of The Army James Tilton didn't order fellow surgeons to start recording weather data until 1814. I highly doubt that the local observations done with rudimentary instruments would qualify in this day and age.
OHH! and yes! global warming DOES take forever
granted, the earth's weather patterns have repeated themselves but this expedient?
So which is it Skippy? Does natural climate change take forever, or are we heating up at an amazingly rapid and frightful pace?
:headscratch:
Her in the U.P. we enjoyed a mild early winter (nobody was complaining for sure).
It didn't save us from this...
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb362/saucie1/icicles.jpg)
And we still have 24" of ice on the local res...
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb362/saucie1/fishing2.jpg)
:salute
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Natural climate change usually takes forever. However, when an asteroid strikes or the Yellowstone volcano erupts mass extinctions occur because there is little time for life to adapt. These changes are even more rapid than what we see today- especially in the case of an asteroid. However, seeing as no massive bodies have plowed into the earth lately, we can discount those as a cause. That leaves man-made warming as the only possible option. The temperature itself isn't what proves man made warming (3 billion years ago makes today seem frigid, but people weren' there yet); the sudden spike in temperature in the absence of sudden changes in nature does.
-Penguin
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So which is it Skippy? Does natural climate change take forever, or are we heating up at an amazingly rapid and frightful pace?
i think youre missing it... it does take forever but within the last 50 years the global mean temperature has risen drastically compared to any temperatures before. or do you just skim things i say and take them out of context?
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That leaves man-made warming as the only possible option.
You can't prove this.
i think youre missing it... it does take forever but within the last 50 years the global mean temperature has risen drastically compared to any temperatures before. or do you just skim things i say and take them out of context?
When you learn to make a cognitive argument, I'll quit busting your chops.
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haha, you guys think rain is bad, come up north and try snow!!
theres snow up here :O longest I've seen snow on the ground (minus snow banks) is maybe 2 days IF I was lucky...except for halloween weekend....
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When you learn to make a cognitive argument, I'll quit busting your chops.
but i have you just took it out of context :aok
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A couple years ago when I was taking some college courses I wrote this essay for English. It's short and covers a few basics of global warming and natural climate change. While I agree the climate is changing I don't believe it's man-made global warming. I can't find my source page for this essay right now but I will keep looking through all of my stuff and see if it turns up.
Global Warming
Are humans causing our planet to warm? Or could it be that the earth is going through a natural cycle? Most scientists seem to believe humans are. But frozen palm trees have been
observed falling out of melting glaciers in Alaska. Tests done on these glacial trees have shown that they are around 50,000 years old. So Alaska must have had a tropical climate at that time.
Other studies have shown that the earth's temperature has fluctuated greatly in the past. So if humans aren't causing global warming, what is causing the earth to warm? There are several
theories that explain this warming that show that humans are not the source of global warming.
One of these theories says the earth has natural cycles that cause an increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, as the cycle continues the atmospheric carbon dioxide will decrease.
Water vapor in the air contains carbon dioxide. As the air warms, the vapor releases the carbon dioxide stored inside it. This causes the temperature to continue to warm.
This process is controlled by the Artic Ocean. It acts as a temperature regulator for the globe. When the Artic Ocean is frozen over, there is no water available for evaporation and
therefore very small amounts of snow fall to replenish the Artic ice cap. The ice cap continues to melt off until the process is reversed. But what is it that can reverse this process?
As the ice cap melts it will begin to expose large areas of open, ice free ocean. Water will begin to evaporate into the air and more and more snow will form. When snow falls onto the ice
cap it begins to expand and cover a much larger area. The air around the ice cap will begin to cool, and absorb the carbon dioxide it released into the air when it was warming. The air will
continue to cool until the Artic Ocean is once again covered in ice and no evaporation can occur, and the whole process will start again. It takes about 100,000 years to complete the cycle.
Scientists believe we are only ten to twenty years from the peak of the cycle and the earth will start to cool back down.
During the time between 950 and 1100 AD the earth experienced a very warm period called the Medieval Warm Period. The oceans around Greenland and Iceland were relatively free of ice,
and the Vikings were easily able to sail to them and colonize these areas. During this time Greenland, Iceland, and most of Europe thrived. But within 150 years the climate would change
dramatically.
The years between 1250 and 1850 were known as The Little Ice Age. Temperatures during this time were much cooler than the years before. The passages used by the Vikings were blocked
by ice for much of this time. Winter lasted much longer and the growing season was much shorter. The winter ice cap lasted up to 3 weeks longer in the spring and the glaciers in the Alpine
Mountains grew much larger. The Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period both occurred hundreds of years before people began to contribute to the amount of Carbon Dioxide in the air.
These two events in climate history demonstrate the way earth naturally goes through cycles of warm and cold temperatures.
Global warming is often blamed on humans and the amount of greenhouse gases we create. Some say that 100% of global warming is caused by people. Even though our greenhouse gas
emissions have increased greatly over the last 125 years, we do not create enough to disrupt earth's natural cycles. For example, about 90 billion tons of carbon dioxide annually circulates between
the oceans and the atmosphere. Another 60 billion tons are annually exchanged between plants and the atmosphere. Humans account for only 5 - 6 billion tons each year. Compared to the 150
billion tons naturally circulated by the earth, humans are responsibly for less than 5% of the total amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. At only 5% of total carbon dioxide production, humans
contribute very little to global warming.
Some scientists would like us to believe that humans are solely responsible for our warming climate. They tell us we should 'go green' and 'save the environment.' But in reality this is just part
of earth's natural cycle. Contrary to what most people are led to believe, humans account for a very small amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. We hear every day how we are destroying
our planet. Millions of dollars are spent every year to research ways to cut back on greenhouse gas emissions when in fact the earth is going through natural cycles. We, as humans, need to step
back and admire the earth and it's amazing climate so perfectly fit for us.
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I think its just TExas Drivers in General...
Shut it you :neener:
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Look at history. Just because humans dont have the capacity to understand time and how long these climate cycles take. Man may not be helping it, but there is nothing man can do to stop it.
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A couple years ago when I was taking some college courses I wrote this essay for English. It's short and covers a few basics of global warming and natural climate change. While I agree the climate is changing I don't believe it's man-made global warming. I can't find my source page for this essay right now but I will keep looking through all of my stuff and see if it turns up.
Global Warming
Are humans causing our planet to warm? Or could it be that the earth is going through a natural cycle? Most scientists seem to believe humans are. But frozen palm trees have been
observed falling out of melting glaciers in Alaska. Tests done on these glacial trees have shown that they are around 50,000 years old. So Alaska must have had a tropical climate at that time.
Other studies have shown that the earth's temperature has fluctuated greatly in the past. So if humans aren't causing global warming, what is causing the earth to warm? There are several
theories that explain this warming that show that humans are not the source of global warming.
One of these theories says the earth has natural cycles that cause an increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, as the cycle continues the atmospheric carbon dioxide will decrease.
Water vapor in the air contains carbon dioxide. As the air warms, the vapor releases the carbon dioxide stored inside it. This causes the temperature to continue to warm.
This process is controlled by the Artic Ocean. It acts as a temperature regulator for the globe. When the Artic Ocean is frozen over, there is no water available for evaporation and
therefore very small amounts of snow fall to replenish the Artic ice cap. The ice cap continues to melt off until the process is reversed. But what is it that can reverse this process?
As the ice cap melts it will begin to expose large areas of open, ice free ocean. Water will begin to evaporate into the air and more and more snow will form. When snow falls onto the ice
cap it begins to expand and cover a much larger area. The air around the ice cap will begin to cool, and absorb the carbon dioxide it released into the air when it was warming. The air will
continue to cool until the Artic Ocean is once again covered in ice and no evaporation can occur, and the whole process will start again. It takes about 100,000 years to complete the cycle.
Scientists believe we are only ten to twenty years from the peak of the cycle and the earth will start to cool back down.
During the time between 950 and 1100 AD the earth experienced a very warm period called the Medieval Warm Period. The oceans around Greenland and Iceland were relatively free of ice,
and the Vikings were easily able to sail to them and colonize these areas. During this time Greenland, Iceland, and most of Europe thrived. But within 150 years the climate would change
dramatically.
The years between 1250 and 1850 were known as The Little Ice Age. Temperatures during this time were much cooler than the years before. The passages used by the Vikings were blocked
by ice for much of this time. Winter lasted much longer and the growing season was much shorter. The winter ice cap lasted up to 3 weeks longer in the spring and the glaciers in the Alpine
Mountains grew much larger. The Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period both occurred hundreds of years before people began to contribute to the amount of Carbon Dioxide in the air.
These two events in climate history demonstrate the way earth naturally goes through cycles of warm and cold temperatures.
Global warming is often blamed on humans and the amount of greenhouse gases we create. Some say that 100% of global warming is caused by people. Even though our greenhouse gas
emissions have increased greatly over the last 125 years, we do not create enough to disrupt earth's natural cycles. For example, about 90 billion tons of carbon dioxide annually circulates between
the oceans and the atmosphere. Another 60 billion tons are annually exchanged between plants and the atmosphere. Humans account for only 5 - 6 billion tons each year. Compared to the 150
billion tons naturally circulated by the earth, humans are responsibly for less than 5% of the total amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. At only 5% of total carbon dioxide production, humans
contribute very little to global warming.
Some scientists would like us to believe that humans are solely responsible for our warming climate. They tell us we should 'go green' and 'save the environment.' But in reality this is just part
of earth's natural cycle. Contrary to what most people are led to believe, humans account for a very small amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. We hear every day how we are destroying
our planet. Millions of dollars are spent every year to research ways to cut back on greenhouse gas emissions when in fact the earth is going through natural cycles. We, as humans, need to step
back and admire the earth and it's amazing climate so perfectly fit for us.
My retort to that argument is that:
1.) The medieval warm period (MWP) and little Ice Age (LIA) were warmer and colder than normal, respectively, but still below the current temperature and there is sparse evidence for the existence of the medieval warm period across the globe
2.) Natural cycles happen, but far more slowly than what we are seeing today. The temperature is rising to very high levels very quickly, as opposed to the more gradual cycle of the MWP and LIA
3.) You make a good point about balance, but you failed to address how it doesn't take much to disrupt a balance, and how the icecap got to melting in the first place. Furthermore, you say that the total amount of CO2 naturally produced on earth is far greater than the amount that humans produce. Let's look at it another way:
You say that 110 billion tons cycle between plants, the ocean, and the atmosphere annually. Humans account for 6 billion tons. Let's see that as a fraction:
6 = 3= 3.2%
110 55
3.2% is huge. That means that more than 1 in every 35 CO2 molecules in the atmosphere are man made. Considering that, as you said, nature is in balance, 3.2% is a massive swing in the direction of global warming (the MWP and LIA were local). As for the 60 billion tons between plants and the atmosphere- that's fading fast as we deforest huge sections of the globe and replace it with methane emitting farmland. The ocean can only hold so much CO2 before it becomes too acidic for life, and we are rapidly approaching that point. So we are, then, mostly responsible for the warming.
-Penguin