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Title: PZL P24
Post by: Kazan_HB on January 25, 2012, 01:05:01 PM
General characteristics

    Crew: 1
    Capacity: fighter
    Length: 7.81 m (25 ft 7 in)
    Wingspan: 10.68 m (35 ft 1 in)
    Height: 2.7 m (8 ft 19 in)
    Wing area: 17.90 m² (192.7 ft²)
    Empty weight: 1,330 kg (2,930 lb)
    Loaded weight: 1,915 kg (4,220 lb)
    Max. takeoff weight: 2,000 kg (4,400 lb)
    Powerplant: 1 × Gnome-Rhône 14Kfs 14-cylinder double row radial engine, 900 hp / 930 hp (max) (671 kW / 693 kW (max))

Performance

    Maximum speed: 430 km/h (270 mph)
    Range: 550 km (340 mi)
    Service ceiling: 10,500 m (34,449 ft)
    Rate of climb: 11.5 m/s (2,260 ft/min)
    Power/mass: 0.376 kW/kg (0.230 hp/lb)

Armament

    4 MGs or
    2 x 20 mm Oerlikon FF and 2 MGs (7.92 mm Colt-Browning)
    2 x 50 kg (110 lb) bombs
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/PZL24_prototyp.jpg/800px-PZL24_prototyp.jpg)

(http://www.kierat.de/modeling/p24c/m_p24c.jpg)

(http://thelevantandthebalkanswwii.devhub.com/img/upload/hfrthhfr.jpg)

the best fighter plane in 1933  :)


Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Butcher on January 25, 2012, 01:11:52 PM
Ill vote long as I get a Gloster Gladiator to duel with :D

(http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/aircraft/GladiatorMkIK7965_73SqdRAF1938Profile.jpg)
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Kazan_HB on January 25, 2012, 01:26:18 PM
Ill vote long as I get a Gloster Gladiator to duel with :D

(http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/aircraft/GladiatorMkIK7965_73SqdRAF1938Profile.jpg)

Gladiator had no chance. PZL not compress in diving
By compression at several pilots were killed in France. The Poles did not know this.
and all PZL had dropped the fuel tank.
 :D

Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Krusty on January 25, 2012, 01:39:03 PM
I don't believe the PZL ever had cannons. MG-only, I seem to recall.
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Kazan_HB on January 25, 2012, 02:08:36 PM
sure, had cannons
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: EagleDNY on January 25, 2012, 02:19:59 PM
The P24-F and G models (sold to Greece) had the Cannons.  The early models were 4xMGs. 

Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 25, 2012, 02:26:47 PM
These were the fighters that were responsible for shooting down the German bombers early in Polish campaign, yes?
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: icepac on January 25, 2012, 02:33:18 PM
I153 is probably the most used biplane of WWII.
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Kazan_HB on January 25, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
These were the fighters that were responsible for shooting down the German bombers early in Polish campaign, yes?

Poland sold the P24 on exports
we had only P 11 and P 7
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Kazan_HB on January 25, 2012, 04:46:21 PM
PZL had a few followers  :)

French Loire46
(http://www.aviafrance.com/image.php?im=836)

Yugoslav Ikarus Ik2
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/IK-2.jpg)

Russian I153
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/I-153_2.jpg)

Czech Aero A102

(http://www.savex.cz/fotky/upload/DSCN0020.jpg)
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: MachFly on January 26, 2012, 02:16:36 AM
As much as I would want to have those planes in AH they would be completely useless, even in the early war arena. The only use for them that I see is ones every few years in special events arena.
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: PanosGR on January 26, 2012, 07:16:59 AM
+1 for PZL naturally cause I'm from Greece, as for the arena thing, lets make a forth one a midwar - Spanish civil arena (1930-1939)
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Kazan_HB on January 26, 2012, 07:31:27 AM
Sure PZL P24 for the early arena , like Russian I16 or Brewster.
possible scenarios>
War over Poland
Balkan campaign
operation Barbarossa
Spanish civil war? maybe...
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Reaper90 on January 26, 2012, 07:52:01 AM
As much as I would want to have those planes in AH they would be completely useless, even in the early war arena. The only use for them that I see is ones every few years in special events arena.

I disagree.... I don't know the specs and performance of any of those planes, but I'd venture a guess that (at least the biplanes) many of them could be flown in any of the current MAs and land kills, just like the Brew and I16 do regularly, just be more careful and choose your fights. killing LW planes with a 40 eny bird is fun..... I can only imagine the perkies landing kills in a 50+ eny bird would earn ya!  :lol
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Kazan_HB on January 26, 2012, 08:18:59 AM
Value:
 maximum safe speed in a dive = 696km / h
Without compression on aircraft rudders
look good?
Title: Re: PZL P24
Post by: Karnak on January 26, 2012, 03:12:29 PM
Value:
 maximum safe speed in a dive = 696km / h
Without compression on aircraft rudders
look good?

Compression and heavy control forces are not the same thing.  Take an A6M5 up and dive it to 400mph, it is not compressed, just very heavy on the controls.