Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Butcher on January 27, 2012, 12:09:01 PM
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Anyone have a Thrustmaster Warthog setup?
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I just bought one, should be coming today according to the tracking on the package.
Other than advice to update the firmware before you start using it, I don't know much else.
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Yep what do you want to know Butcher?
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Yep what do you want to know Butcher?
I was wondering if I can get a copy of your setup?
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Me too, please, Reschke. The Targetware isn't the easiest thing to use to program the Warthog.
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What I'm looking to do is to use the 'Eng Oper' switches on the Warthog throttle as magnetos to start my P38's engines independently. I tried doing it with the AH programming, without success. I tend to kill the wrong or even both engines.
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What I'm looking to do is to use the 'Eng Oper' switches on the Warthog throttle as magnetos to start my P38's engines independently. I tried doing it with the AH programming, without success. I tend to kill the wrong or even both engines.
the Target software sucks, you gotta program and fiddle with the settings yourself, I flew a little bit today, its a bit more challenging to get used to for sure. Over all it blows a Logitech away.
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Everything I do for AH is done within the AH system. I think I can copy that and send it over to you. I kinda/sorta copied what I had in TARGET for my A-10C setup. I have left and right engines on twins/multi planes mapped to the different toggles and I have my APU set to start all engines. I will see if I can get it printed up and make a copy for you guys. Drop me an email address via PM and let me see if I can put it into a Word file so you will not be lost.
Also if you are interested the script side of TARGET is where its at; as the GUI is kinda fudged up with allowing you to create and be creative with the software.
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What I'm looking to do is to use the 'Eng Oper' switches on the Warthog throttle as magnetos to start my P38's engines independently. I tried doing it with the AH programming, without success. I tend to kill the wrong or even both engines.
You have to set them up to toggle the engines independently and then return to "all engines" selected mode after executing the command. I have used this with no issues with all my 2 engine aircraft for the last several months. In addition, when using single engine aircraft, you can use either the left or right button to power on/off your motor.
Note: All entries are "press | pulse | default delay | and do not Check the sequence box."
Add the actions below for each item in order:
EOLIGN:
Engine1_Select (L_SHIFT 1)
Engine1_Start (e)
EngineAll_Select (L_CTL e)
EORIGN:
Engine2_Select (L_SHIFT 2)
Engine2_Start (e)
EngineAll_Select (L_CTL e)
Add the Following so when you pull the switches back to lock it will shut that engine down:
EOLMOTOR:
Engine1_Select (L_SHIFT 1)
Engine1_Stop (e)
EngineAll_Select (L_CTL e)
EORMOTOR:
Engine2_Select (L_SHIFT 2)
Engine2_Stop (e)
EngineAll_Select (L_CTL e)
Mixed in at the "End" of Each engine start/stop, I also have the LED1 or LED2 on the throttle indicate it's active as well as shut off the LED upon powering the engine down.
Hope this helps... Any questions, just let me know!
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What I'm looking to do is to use the 'Eng Oper' switches on the Warthog throttle as magnetos to start my P38's engines independently. I tried doing it with the AH programming, without success. I tend to kill the wrong or even both engines.
You can do this in Aces High by setting "Eng Oper L Motor" on the throttle base to "select eng 1" in Aces High. "Eng Oper R Motor" would be "select eng 2". "IGN" on the throttle would be "start engine" in Aces High for both switches. Set "APU start" on the throttle to turn "all engines" back on. This lets you select and start an engine with each toggle but you have to reset to all "engines"with the APU button after the second engine start.
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I do know one thing, don't use your secondary throttle for rudder (waiting to buy some pedals)..
Problem is there is no centering, which tends to auto kick you off Auto pilot, or if you are tail sliding can ruin your E in no time.
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You can do this in Aces High by setting "Eng Oper L Motor" on the throttle base to "select eng 1" in Aces High. "Eng Oper R Motor" would be "select eng 2". "IGN" on the throttle would be "start engine" in Aces High for both switches. Set "APU start" on the throttle to turn "all engines" back on. This lets you select and start an engine with each toggle but you have to reset to all "engines"with the APU button after the second engine start.
I know that, but it sort of defeats the purpose of putting of the engine start on the switches if you need to reset them with the APU button afterwards. Instead, I'll leave it as a macro on my keyboard; one button selects the engine, turns it off/on, and reverts to controlling both engines again.
Too bad AH doesn't recognize all 3 switch positions on the Warthog, it would open up a lot more functionality.
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I know that, but it sort of defeats the purpose of putting of the engine start on the switches if you need to reset them with the APU button afterwards. Instead, I'll leave it as a macro on my keyboard; one button selects the engine, turns it off/on, and reverts to controlling both engines again.
Too bad AH doesn't recognize all 3 switch positions on the Warthog, it would open up a lot more functionality.
which one isn't picked up? I am getting all three of mine picked up just fine...
I set one for flaps, other two I haven't really figured out what to use it for..
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For example, on the Eng Oper switches, there is a forward selection that acts like magnetos; you press and hold it for a brief moment. There is also a middle position and the bottom position. The middle position isn't recognized and I'm guessing the button is a 2 stage, not a 3 stage button when used in AH.
Maybe I'm being too picky, I just had a woody to possibly use them as engine starts.
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What's wrong with turning off the APU after the engines start? ;)
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It defeats the point of using it altogether... Instead, I 'll keep using the macro on my keyboard, single action is much better..
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Why not use the APU switch as the start engine switch? The APU is really only necessary in modern aircraft sims.
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Why not use the coding in target to do it ? Did that not work ?
I use the APU start to control all LED's off/on.
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I have just been playing around with the scripting in TARGET. Otherwise the GUI programming side in TARGET sucks monkey balls. To me it isn't as user friendly as FOXY was and I sorta wish I could use FOXY for the Warthog or at least have a way to import FOXY files from Cougars over to the Warthog but alas that isn't ever going to happen.
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The programming in CH was absolutely the best, compared to Thrustmaster it is practically godlike.
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The way I set up my throttle quadrant is this:
left throttle is set up for RPM control
right throttle is set up for Manifold control
Pointer finger hat set to flaps up/down, rudder trim left/right
Pinky finger button set to check-6
Toggle switch on the left throttle is set to start/stop film recording.
Thumb hat depress set to WEP
Speed Brake switch set to dive brakes in the forward position, and aft (put it forward to extend, and when you're done using them, just pull it back and it snaps into the neutral position after retracting)
Boat and china hat switches I haven't found a use for yet.
Fuel flow switches I don't use.
Engine 1 switch is Engine start/stop assigned to the forward position, AND the back position.
Engine 2 switch I have set to landing gears in the same way.
This way, when you start the engine or raise your landing gears, it is in the forward position, which then retracts automatically to neutral. When it's time to shut the engine down, or lower the landing gear, switches down feels a lot more natural.
Throttle friction wheel is set to elevator trim.
LG SIL is set to hook
AutoPilot switch- Path position is auto-level, Alt position is auto-climb, and engage/disengage is set to enable/disable combat trim.
EAC is set to pause tracker (for pausing trackIR), RDR ALTIM is set to center tracker (for TrackIR)
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The stick
Trim hat I have set to nose down/up, aileron left/right.
Target Management Hat I have set to views (acts as a POV switch, and keeps my thumb from being way out of position in hard fights)- forward is set to the position as up and forward as possible while still able to see the gunsite pipper for deflection shots.
Weapon Release Button is set to pickle bombs/rockets.
Master Mode button set to select secondary
trigger- 1st stage- primary bank 2nd stage- fire all guns (this is broken, still waiting on HTC to fix it. It fires prim and secondary weapons, no matter what's selected- it seems like it should be set to simply fire all the guns on the airplane)
Data Management Hat I haven't used yet.
Countermeasures hat- Forward - vox com channel, back- range channel, right- clipboard, depress- Ventrillo vox
Pinky button- zoom
Pinkly switch- look up (use in conjunction with the TMS for up+view).
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Excellent job Rebel, I will print your post out and gander over it - I have everything almost close to this in my setup, except for the secondary throttle, which I am idiotwise using as my rudders until my pedals arrive.
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You may want to consider using the boat switch or the microstick for that, bro. That way, you can adjust throttle as well as use your rudders at the same time without difficulty.
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I will not disagree with the statemwnt about CH software with the current TM software. However FOXY was hands down better than CH anyday of the week.