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Title: B-29 fix
Post by: earl1937 on January 29, 2012, 12:18:49 PM
The bomb sight on the B-29 needs to be "fixed" so that when you telescope your bomb sight forward to line up on target, you can use your "J" & "L" keys to help correct your heading! All the other bombers in AH has that feature and is much easier to line up on your target before you calibrate when bombing. You can correct a heading error after you have calibrated your sight, with the "J" & "L" keys, :aok but it would make it a lot easier to get lined up with-out "skidding" after you calibrate.  The "skidding" when using the rudder to correct for line-up errors after you have calibrated will cause missed targets! I suspect the 2 main reasons the 29 is a hangar queen for the most part, is because of the difficulty of lining up and the perk points. :bhead
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: Chalenge on January 29, 2012, 01:01:02 PM
Its not a hangar queen. It is hard to notice them if you are fighting in the horde and never look to see them passing overhead at 32k and higher. They tend to avoid the horded sectors anyway because the towns are already hit.  :devil
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: Tilt on January 29, 2012, 01:03:47 PM
The only "bomber" I use now. Bombing is deadly accurate from 30k as long as you know one minor detail. :)
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: earl1937 on January 29, 2012, 01:43:34 PM
The only "bomber" I use now. Bombing is deadly accurate from 30k as long as you know one minor detail. :)
And I guess you are not going to share that "secret" with us!
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: DOUG on January 29, 2012, 02:06:58 PM
  I dont really care for bombing since they "dumbed it down", makes it impossible to miss as long as you have your e6b up while you are in the bombsite and MAINTAIN CONSTANT SPEED. ALL my recent buff runs have been in the B29 @ 30-32k  doing ~315mph true. The "skidding" is messing you up, because it slows you down if done too abruptly.You Must check speed after EVERY turn and Between EVERY drop.If you have perfect calibration, drop 8000lbs bombs, continue to next target, EVEN if you DONT turn, Youll MISS, because you're now goin Faster THAN CALIBRATED SPEED, CAUSE YOU ARE NOW 4 TONS LIGHTER. Nearly all MY eggs are hitting the exact building Im targeting.

  IF calibrated speed and alt= Current speed AND alt-----direct hits EVERY time :(

  In addition to this, you USED to have to hold the + on a target  WHILE pressing the key . The better (and Longer) you could hold the crosshair on a single point, the more accurate the drop. Would be hilarious if it went back to that  :devil

  elfy
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: hitech on January 29, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
The b29 does not work any different then any other bomber plane.

HiTech
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: Dragon on January 29, 2012, 02:44:59 PM


  In addition to this, you USED to have to hold the + on a target  WHILE pressing the key . The better (and Longer) you could hold the crosshair on a single point, the more accurate the drop. Would be hilarious if it went back to that  :devil

  elfy


Ahh, the good old days.  Still deadly accurate if you did it right, now it's just a bit quicker and easier.
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: Tilt on January 30, 2012, 03:22:58 AM
The b29 does not work any different then any other bomber plane.

HiTech

This IMO is true............

There is no real secret to stuff.... If you are sure you have set stuff up correctly and released correctly then a little observation as to where the bomb pattern actually strikes may bring some reward.
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: Rob52240 on January 30, 2012, 03:42:07 AM
Level bombing is the same regardless of what you're in.  Speed is the biggest factor for me, the faster I go, the harder it is to hit the pickle barrel.
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: RTHolmes on January 30, 2012, 04:21:06 AM
"skidding" will make you miss the target (because you are just yawing the aircraft and sight away from its direction of travel.)

use the joystick to adjust your line while in the bombsight (it coordinates the turn for you) :aok



btw I'm still not convinced the B29 sight is calibrated right though, Ive given up trying to hit hangars with it because I cant remember whether it +50yds or -50yds :bhead
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: climber on January 30, 2012, 10:00:38 AM
Gonna probably add fuel to the fire here but away we go!

Its interesting that this post was created by a man whom has actually flown the B-29 and has first hand experience in the aircraft.  If he is bringing up a point then it may be worth listening to instead of just pointing out that "the b29 does not work any different than any other bomber plane".  This could be a great opportunity to improve on this already awesome game.  Individuals from the time period we so admire are disappearing quickly and after they are gone all we have is writing, blueprints, performance charts, and little else to base these aircraft on.  I say lets take advantage of this wealth of information while we have it. 

There are those in game that fly it like an arcade game and there are those whom think of it as a WW2 air combat simulator.  In actuality it is both (ease of gameplay and customer base obviously dictates this).  I greatly enjoy the historical part of the game.  If you are a person whom enjoys this check out some of ET37's (OP's screen name) missions.  Especially his squad night missions on Saturday.  The man takes the time to give a history lesson, has a dialogue including pilot to flight crew talk, flight to flight talk, formation to controller talk, to add to the realism.  Last Saturday we took 29's, 24's, and escorts up from Tinnian airbase using the CV "Yorktown" as controller and hit 3 airbases.  It was a blast!  We had beautiful formations, a strong enemy defense, and decent success. 

OK gonna step back down from my soapbox.  I really love this game and really want to see continual improvement to make it better.  I'm tired of the constant whines from individuals who may or may not even play the game (take a look at the worst offenders and realize they never even log on).  Quit complaining and if you don't want to join ET's missions, then up an axis plane and defend it.  I'll be one of the escorts high over the bomber formations waiting for the Luftwaffe.


Great big <S> to you all!

-Climber
Rod Thomas
CO 77th FS "Gamblers"
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: Krusty on January 30, 2012, 03:41:29 PM
  IF calibrated speed and alt= Current speed AND alt-----direct hits EVERY time :(

That's true of both calibration methods.. That never changed.

  In addition to this, you USED to have to hold the + on a target  WHILE pressing the key . The better (and Longer) you could hold the crosshair on a single point, the more accurate the drop.

Wrong. You weren't marking the target... You were measuring GROUND speed. You click the clipboard and it would take ground level from that, and your calibration was basic mathematics taking into account the angle change over time (you're "looking" at something) and how much airspeed that indicated.

This system actually wouldn't work on some hardware setups, if I recall the reason it was changed. It also was just a busy-work system. The end result was you held it longer, you got a more accurate air speed indication.

Same thing now. You hold the calibrate key longer, you get a better more accurate air speed indicator. You could always pull up the E6B and check for either method.

I think you've got rose colored glasses for the way it used to work.
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: DOUG on January 30, 2012, 04:08:18 PM
That's true of both calibration methods.. That never changed.

Wrong. You weren't marking the target... You were measuring GROUND speed. You click the clipboard and it would take ground level from that, and your calibration was basic mathematics taking into account the angle change over time (you're "looking" at something) and how much airspeed that indicated.

This system actually wouldn't work on some hardware setups, if I recall the reason it was changed. It also was just a busy-work system. The end result was you held it longer, you got a more accurate air speed indication.

Same thing now. You hold the calibrate key longer, you get a better more accurate air speed indicator. You could always pull up the E6B and check for either method.

I think you've got rose colored glasses for the way it used to work.

Never said you hold the + on THE target, just A target, normally a lone tree or windmill, or whatever LONG before you could EVER see the intended TARGET. And it Wasnt just busy work, it weeded out the drunks, cause I found it waaaay difficiult to hold it on the leading edge of a barn for 20 seconds when hammered, even tho I Believe only the + location when pressed and released , mattered,  :cheers:
 Nothing rose colored aboot it, was much more difficult, inthat the old way offered atleast the CHance to screw it up.

elfy
Title: Re: B-29 fix
Post by: Krusty on January 30, 2012, 04:20:16 PM
The speed of your motion while holding the key simply translated directly into calibration speed for the bombsight. Same as we have now. Only now you don't have to move the crosshair, and it oscillates back and forth wildly until finally settling down.

So the busy work was in part about moving the crosshair as you held the key down. You get the same end result, it just cuts out that step.


And if yer bombin' DRUNK.... well can't help ya with that. Just tell me where you are next time so's I can... um... go up and "greet" you from the other side... Yeah, that's it :)