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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: MAINER on January 30, 2012, 09:51:13 AM
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I think it may be a nice ground attack/close support bomber. A good alternative to the A-20 maybe?
Stats:
General characteristics
* Crew: 2 (pilot, navigator/gunner)
* Length: 39 ft 9 in (12.12 m)
* Wingspan: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m)
* Height: 15 ft 4 in (4.67 m)
* Wing area: 332 ft² (30.84 m²)
* Empty weight: 9,725 lb (4,411 kg)
* Max. takeoff weight: 14,300 lb (6,486 kg)
* Powerplant: 1 × Wright R-2600-A5B-5 Twin Cyclone 14 cylinder radial air-cooled engine, 1,600 hp (1,193 kW)
Performance
* Maximum speed: 275 mph (239 kn, 443 km/h) at 11,000 ft (3,350 m)
* Cruise speed: 235 mph (204 kn, 378 km/h)
* Range: 1,400 miles (1,220 nmi, 2,253 km)
* Service ceiling: 22,500 ft (6,860 m)
* Wing loading: 43.1 lb/ft² (210 kg/m²)
* Power/mass: 0.11 hp/lb (0.18 kW/kg)
Armament
* Guns:
o 4 × fixed forward-firing .30 in (7.6 mm) Browning machine guns in the wing
o 2 × flexible mount .30 in (7.6 mm) or .303 in (7.7 mm) machine guns in rear cockpit
* Bombs:
o 2 × internal 500 lb (230 kg) bombs
o 2 × 250 lb (110 kg) bomb on wing rack
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A good alternative to the A-20 maybe?
Not Possible. :D
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Not Possible. :D
Not possible but great additive to the plane set. Especially considering the Australia, Free French, British India, Brazil, and U.K used then extensively.
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Not trying to bag on your wish, but couldn't you just use an SBD instead? Other than a special event, it's a better bird :D
Heck, it even comes in an Army flavor:
A-24:
(http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/071030-F-1234S-007.jpg)
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Not trying to bag on your wish, but couldn't you just use an SBD instead? Other than a special event, it's a better bird :D
Heck, it even comes in an Army flavor:
A-24:
(http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/071030-F-1234S-007.jpg)
Does it really matter if it is a better bird? The more, the merry.
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Not trying to bag on your wish, but couldn't you just use an SBD instead? Other than a special event, it's a better bird :D
Heck, it even comes in an Army flavor:
A-24:
(http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/071030-F-1234S-007.jpg)
the Vengeance would be a nice plane for the Burma theater which the allies had very few attack planes besides the Hurri-C.
Given I don't think anyone wants the Japanese equal which was the Ki-30 or Ki-32.
The Burma theater often gets over shadowed, I would love to see a Manadalay / Calcutta or Chittagong scenario with Early war hurri's vs Ki-43s or A6m2's (for time being).
Midwar would be Spit 5's, you can throw in Betty's and Ki-67s vs Wellingtons and some american units.
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the Vengeance would be a nice plane for the Burma theater which the allies had very few attack planes besides the Hurri-C.
Given I don't think anyone wants the Japanese equal which was the Ki-30 or Ki-32.
The Burma theater often gets over shadowed, I would love to see a Manadalay / Calcutta or Chittagong scenario with Early war hurri's vs Ki-43s or A6m2's (for time being).
Midwar would be Spit 5's, you can throw in Betty's and Ki-67s vs Wellingtons and some american units.
Sounds like a good Idea :joystick:
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http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1940s/Vengeance-Tales.html (http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1940s/Vengeance-Tales.html)
Interesting read.
wrongway
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You do understand the Vengeance was a dog, that got dumped by the USAAF on the RAF who then dumped it on the RAAF and into the backwaters of the war for lack of anything else to do with it.
Seems to me that birds like the Beaufighter would be far better additions then something that spent most of it's time as a target tug.
If Burma is the concern, then the Ki-43, Mohawk, Hurri IIB and even the Blenheim or Hudson would make far more sense then the Vengeance.
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Does it really matter if it is a better bird? The more, the merry.
Ok, what other pigs do you want coded then? Since we have a distinct lack of Burma theater rides now, you would
choose the Vengeance first? :rolleyes:
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we pigs are not coded into the game.
Semp
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You do understand the Vengeance was a dog, that got dumped by the USAAF on the RAF who then dumped it on the RAAF and into the backwaters of the war for lack of anything else to do with it.
Seems to me that birds like the Beaufighter would be far better additions then something that spent most of it's time as a target tug.
If Burma is the concern, then the Ki-43, Mohawk, Hurri IIB and even the Blenheim or Hudson would make far more sense then the Vengeance.
Me personally I wouldn't put the vengeance ahead of any other aircraft, Beaufighter and Ki-43 would be primary, Hurri-IIB could get added when the hurri's get upgraded, Hudson make's a better choice over blenheim since it flew with RAAF and NZAF as well as the Brits in burma.
Mohawk is one of those I question that should be added, it was unarmored and slow, perhaps down the road if there's a need to fill out a burma/france theater setup.
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You do understand the Vengeance was a dog, that got dumped by the USAAF on the RAF who then dumped it on the RAAF and into the backwaters of the war for lack of anything else to do with it.
Seems to me that birds like the Beaufighter would be far better additions then something that spent most of it's time as a target tug.
If Burma is the concern, then the Ki-43, Mohawk, Hurri IIB and even the Blenheim or Hudson would make far more sense then the Vengeance.
But Dan, those aren't American (other than the Mohawk) in origin, so they don't count.
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Ok, what other pigs do you want coded then? Since we have a distinct lack of Burma theater rides now, you would
choose the Vengeance first? :rolleyes:
Oh nooo you don't, you leave us outa this! We have nothing to do, and no desire to have anything to do with this.
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No one ever said pigs weren't bright :D
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No one ever said pigs weren't bright :D
but they can fly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOwczbqj0bE
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but they can fly
Anything can fly with a rocket shoved up its ass.
ack-ack
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Me personally I wouldn't put the vengeance ahead of any other aircraft, Beaufighter and Ki-43 would be primary, Hurri-IIB could get added when the hurri's get upgraded, Hudson make's a better choice over blenheim since it flew with RAAF and NZAF as well as the Brits in burma.
Mohawk is one of those I question that should be added, it was unarmored and slow, perhaps down the road if there's a need to fill out a burma/france theater setup.
The thing about the Hawk 75, P-36, Mohawk series is it covers a lot of countries and was still on the front line in Burma in early 44 with the RAF. It's not a high priority but far beyond a Vengeance. With the Hawk, you've got French, US, Finnish, RAF etc and in all theaters of the war. Historically it's far more relevant then the Vengeance.
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The thing about the Hawk 75, P-36, Mohawk series is it covers a lot of countries and was still on the front line in Burma in early 44 with the RAF. It's not a high priority but far beyond a Vengeance. With the Hawk, you've got French, US, Finnish, RAF etc and in all theaters of the war. Historically it's far more relevant then the Vengeance.
...and unlike the Vengeance, the 3D-art for the cockpit and most of the airframe is already practically done.
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...and unlike the Vengeance, the 3D-art for the cockpit and most of the airframe is already practically done.
What wins my vote over most things - is basically how many theaters it served, there are some odds and ends that I generally like,
but when you get a plane that served in one theater vs a few - it shows up more in scenarios, snapshots and FSO.
The Beaufighter is a prime example, as the Ki-43, the only dislikes I have about the Mohawk is it basically was unarmored, the allied version of the Zero - and it didn't out turn it either.
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i think its good , negative support again , ill get you the fame u deserve mains :salute+1 for me for def :salute
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Beaufighter before this.
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the only dislikes I have about the Mohawk is it basically was unarmored, the allied version of the Zero - and it didn't out turn it either.
Hawk was actually very rugged and durable as was the P-40. It had a pilot armor like the P-40 but the stock aircraft didn't have self-sealing fuel tanks. The wing tanks were largely under the fuselage. Hawk was stressed to 12Gs at 5500lbs flying weight so the structure was very strong overall. Hawk had lower wing loading and stalling speed than Brewster. It was very maneuverable. Both Japanese and RAF pilots agreed that Ki-43-II and Hawk were close in maneuverability but that Ki-43-II was slightly better. I'm sure that the A6M2 had a smaller turning radius however. The biggest weakness that I see is the poor armament.
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it looks cool. would also fill the planeset (skinwise) for UK and Aussieland
(http://www.avionslegendaires.net/Images/Ga31-2.jpg)
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Hawk was actually very rugged and durable as was the P-40. It had a pilot armor like the P-40 but the stock aircraft didn't have self-sealing fuel tanks. The wing tanks were largely under the fuselage. Hawk was stressed to 12Gs at 5500lbs flying weight so the structure was very strong overall. Hawk had lower wing loading and stalling speed than Brewster. It was very maneuverable. Both Japanese and RAF pilots agreed that Ki-43-II and Hawk were close in maneuverability but that Ki-43-II was slightly better. I'm sure that the A6M2 had a smaller turning radius however. The biggest weakness that I see is the poor armament.
Interesting, I never really studied the Hawk to much, I probably need to go back and find my books on it. I always thought it was "completely" unarmored, rather just the fuel tanks were - which in Aces High means a few hits turns it into a fireball.
I honestly don't think I would fly it over the Buffalo if it was added, same for the Ki-43.
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it looks cool. would also fill the planeset (skinwise) for UK and Aussieland
Thank you, no.
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is that a barracuda? looks kinda like it
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Nope, wrong side of the Atlantic :D
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/unitedkingdom/aircraft/torpedo-bomber/fairey-barracuda-torpedo-bomber/fairey-barracuda-torpedo-bomber-01.png)
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Thank you, no.
you mad that UK had to borrow american rides?
:neener:
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,311153.msg4027546.html#msg4027546
I posted on the Judy and A-31
P.S. It wasnt good as my posts are now...