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Title: Short Stirling
Post by: MAINER on February 01, 2012, 09:49:56 AM
It seems to be a capable bomber although it was down on defensive power  :cry . It could still carry up to 14,000lbs of bombs :devil. It has radial engines to so no radiators to be hit!  :D

Stats:

    * Crew: 7 (First and second pilot, navigator/bomb aimer, front gunner/WT operator, two air gunners, and flight engineer)
    * Length: 87 ft 3 in (26.6 m)
    * Wingspan: 99 ft 1 in (30.2 m)
    * Height: 28 ft 10 in (8.8 m)
    * Wing area: 1,322 ft² (122.8 m²)
    * Empty weight: 44,000 lb (19,950 kg)
    * Loaded weight: 59,400 lb (26,940 kg)
    * Max. takeoff weight: 70,000 lb (31,750 kg)
    * Powerplant: 4 × Bristol Hercules II radial engine, 1,375 hp (1,030 kW) each
    * Propellers: Three-bladed metal fully feathering 13 ft 6 in diameter propeller
    * *Aspect ratio: 6.5

Performance

    * Maximum speed: 255 mph (410 km/h) at 21,000 ft (6,400 m)
    * Cruise speed: 200 mph[25]
    * Range: 2,330 mi (3,750 km)
    * Service ceiling: 16,500 ft (5,030 m)
    * Rate of climb: 800 ft/min (4 m/s)
    * Wing loading: 44.9 lb/ft² (219.4 kg/m²)
    * Power/mass: 0.093 hp/lb (0.153 kW/kg)

Armament

    * Guns: 8 x 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Browning machine guns: 2 in powered nose turret, 4 in tail turret, 2 in dorsal turret
    * Bombs: Up to 14,000 lb (6,340 kg) of bombs[26]
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: Pigslilspaz on February 01, 2012, 02:27:06 PM
I would say search is your friend, but all it would do is show you my 10+ Threads for it, lol. +100
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: davidwales on February 01, 2012, 03:08:05 PM
its a dam good idea mainer +1 from me  :salute
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: JVboob on February 17, 2012, 05:02:11 PM
+1
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: matt on February 17, 2012, 09:27:56 PM
+1
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: B-17 on February 17, 2012, 10:48:16 PM
I like how it shows 255 mph at 21,000 feet, and its service cieling is 16,000 :D
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: SmokinLoon on February 18, 2012, 12:18:47 AM
Nah, I vote "no".  The Sterling and the Lancaster are too close in performance, imo. 

If the British get another level bomber it should be the Wellington.  It was their best and more prominent medium bomber in WWII ("best" can be argued, some will say the Mossie B 16 was  ;)  ).
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: wil3ur on February 18, 2012, 02:24:55 AM
Also place shorts on silver... the markets about to take a wierd swing.  Manawar told me.


 :salute
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: MAINER on February 18, 2012, 07:06:59 AM
I like how it shows 255 mph at 21,000 feet, and its service cieling is 16,000 :D

oops   :bolt:
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: Karnak on February 18, 2012, 08:19:39 AM
I like how it shows 255 mph at 21,000 feet, and its service cieling is 16,000 :D
It could reach 21,000ft.....after the bombs and a lot of fuel were gone.


The Lancaster is in all ways superior to the Stirling.  The Wellington would make a lot more sense to add than the Stirling.  I know a lot of you are enamored of the listed 14,000lb bomb load, but its performance with that load would be very poor.  Also, due to the layout of the bomb bays, it could not take any bomb larger than, IIRC, 2,000lbs.  The Lancaster is tougher, faster, higher climb rate, better defensive guns and a better bomb load.

Read the Boscombe Down report on the Lancaster and Stirling.
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: B-17 on February 18, 2012, 09:50:27 AM
I know a lot of you are enamored of the listed 14,000lb bomb load, but its performance with that load would be very poor.  Also, due to the layout of the bomb bays, it could not take any bomb larger than, IIRC, 2,000lbs.

Yeah, that's right.

It could reach 21,000ft.....after the bombs and a lot of fuel were gone.

Ahhh... I see. But why would one want to do that, other than attempt to cross the Himalayas or get away from bad guys?
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: DEECONX on February 18, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
Next Brit aircraft should be the Beaufighter or the Blenheim IMO.

The Blenheim would also give our pals the Finns another aircraft.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Short Stirling
Post by: Karnak on February 18, 2012, 10:45:54 AM
Next Brit aircraft should be the Beaufighter or the Blenheim IMO.

The Blenheim would also give our pals the Finns another aircraft.  :cheers:
Beaufighter I agree with you, but not on the Blenheim.

The Wellington would be a far, far better addition than the Blenheim.  Blenheim and Battle are normally requested by Luftwaffe fans who want to be seen as reasonable by requesting an RAF aircraft that is actually chosen to be vastly less capable and less survivable than the opposing Luftwaffe aircraft.  I would very much like to see the Wellington Mk III, He111H and Ju188A added.