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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Rich52 on February 06, 2012, 07:55:47 PM
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I can learn to like this airplane. Seems to hold up very well against adversarys anywhere near its time in history. Rolls and responds very well, even climbs better then I thought. I think I'll add it to my high eny Gems list.
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I wouldnt call it a good plane in the MA though
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Keep it fast, arrive to the fight ~5K above your opponent. Use slashing attacks, once you lose too much E, try to climb out of the fight and come back in. You're not going to catch the majority of the MA rides neither outrun them, but you can outturn some of them (P51D, 109K4, La7) if you sucker one into a turn fight. 6x .50s are more than enough firepower for snapshots during BnZ passes. Careful of the real climbers (La7, 109s, Spit16s, or even the P51) as you WILL lose energy if you let the fight drag on and they WILL gain energy and eventually be able to catch you during your "rope". It's a fun plane, and against EW planes, it's one of the top tier, right behind the 109E/F, A6M, and Spitfire I.
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This is a plane that is best at 2 things: no other plane can out dive it, and no other plane can match it at 30,000 ft.
The P40N is king up high. Where it is best is when those high altitude bombers need escorting. The huge and powerful high alt geared engine, the huge wings, the 8/.50 caliber MG's, the ability to hold the alt while doing maneuvers, and did I mention the speed? Oh, and the range. Without checking my notes I do believe the P47N has the longest range of any fighter in AH. There will be some that knee jerk a "Ta152 is better" response and I say "nonsense"!. The Ta152 can do 2 things better than the P47N at 30,000 ft and they are A: deliver more damage in a shorter period of time, and B: get shot down. That is it, because it sure isn't maneuver better, or fly faster, or go further.
Disclaimer: The Spitfire 14 will give it a run for its money up at 30,000 ft in terms of maneuverability and speed, but all the P47N has to do is hold out for a few mins and the Spit14 will run out of fuel. :)
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This is a plane that is best at 2 things: no other plane can out dive it, and no other plane can match it at 30,000 ft.
The P40N is king up high. Where it is best is when those high altitude bombers need escorting. The huge and powerful high alt geared engine, the huge wings, the 8/.50 caliber MG's, the ability to hold the alt while doing maneuvers, and did I mention the speed? Oh, and the range. Without checking my notes I do believe the P47N has the longest range of any fighter in AH. There will be some that knee jerk a "Ta152 is better" response and I say "nonsense"!. The Ta152 can do 2 things better than the P47N at 30,000 ft and they are A: deliver more damage in a shorter period of time, and B: get shot down. That is it, because it sure isn't maneuver better, or fly faster, or go further.
Disclaimer: The Spitfire 14 will give it a run for its money up at 30,000 ft in terms of maneuverability and speed, but all the P47N has to do is hold out for a few mins and the Spit14 will run out of fuel. :)
are you talking about the N jug or p40n? it seems like you kinda switched em
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are you talking about the N jug or p40n? it seems like you kinda switched em
This is certainly the M or N Jug not the P40N - actually the P40F is far better then the P40N.
The merlin engine is what gives it the edge above 15k, I flew the P40N during the african FSO event and it was practically slaughtered by Me109s above 15k.
The P40F gives a little edge in dog fighting vs the 40N/E because of its acceleration and some what better speeds. I'd recommend sticking with the P40F.
The N model is great for ground attack or attacking vehicles, the F is a better fighter.
Overall stats:
N model has the better wep, boosting over 25mph gain up to 15k - its faster then the F Below 15k with wep on - without it the F is faster.
The F is faster above 15k - the N Model with wep climbs much better, as the E/F 40 both suffer 2000fpm.
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SORRY! I should have gone to bed hours earlier. I'm fighting a flu bug of sorts and obviously wasn't comprehending everything I read... I spoke of the P47N, not the P40N. I do apologize. :o
Regarding the C, E, F, and N P40 variants....
The line is blurred between the 4 models in a lot of areas, until altitude and WEP is brought in to play. Down low (below 10k), the outstanding WEP capability of the N gives it an edge over the other three models in terms of speed and acceleration. The F is close behind, but remember it is notably heavier thanks to the Merlin engine. Above 15k is where the F comes in to its own, but again, it is heavy so E is paramount to its success. It needs to be treated more like a 190 than it does a P47, the roll rate is surprisingly good at normal speeds. With all that being said, I've found the C and E models to be more forgiving, and perhaps a tad bit more agile. The C and E variants lack the WEP capability. The C is on the bottom of the pack in terms of firepower with 4/.30's and 2/50's, but in a 1v1 dogfight that isnt so much an issue. Has everyone picked up on the fact that the C model is the best climber on military power? :)
In short, the F and the N are the 2 better variants per say. The F being slightly faster and better med-high alt performance gets the nod for the BnZ crowd, while the N with its outstanding WEP under 10k should get the nod of the low level dogfighter and jabo pilots (not to mention the 2/500 lb bomb capability).
Flying around in the P40C will give you a very high respect for the Flying Tigers. ;)
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This is certainly the M or N Jug not the P40N - actually the P40F is far better then the P40N.
The merlin engine is what gives it the edge above 15k, I flew the P40N during the african FSO event and it was practically slaughtered by Me109s above 15k.
The P40F gives a little edge in dog fighting vs the 40N/E because of its acceleration and some what better speeds. I'd recommend sticking with the P40F.
The N model is great for ground attack or attacking vehicles, the F is a better fighter.
Overall stats:
N model has the better wep, boosting over 25mph gain up to 15k - its faster then the F Below 15k with wep on - without it the F is faster.
The F is faster above 15k - the N Model with wep climbs much better, as the E/F 40 both suffer 2000fpm.
yeah I know that. he seemed to started to have lost his train of thought and switched the planes lol. he cleared it up now :rock
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The F being slightly faster and better med-high alt performance gets the nod for the BnZ crowd, while the N with its outstanding WEP under 10k should get the nod of the low level dogfighter and jabo pilots (not to mention the 2/500 lb bomb capability).
Define Jabo.
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Define Jabo.
Ground-pounders. Bomb carriers. Low alt performance is more important than high alt because of the typical operating altitudes. Take the P40N over the other P40's because A: it can carry 3/500 lb bombs and B: it has awesome WEP performance (for a P40, at least) under 10k. :aok
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Define Jabo.
Fighter bombers. I fond myself getting bored with the 5 eny crowd and am searching for options. Not saying Im good in anything, cause frankly I sucked even when I was playing a lot, but I find it fun to fly around in high eny airplanes. KI-67s, Yaks, Brewsters, and now P-40s. I dont go in early war cause nobody else does either but I'd bet the P-40 is pretty competative in it. Even mid-war. yes? No?
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Fighter bombers. I fond myself getting bored with the 5 eny crowd and am searching for options. Not saying Im good in anything, cause frankly I sucked even when I was playing a lot, but I find it fun to fly around in high eny airplanes. KI-67s, Yaks, Brewsters, and now P-40s. I dont go in early war cause nobody else does either but I'd bet the P-40 is pretty competative in it. Even mid-war. yes? No?
Hmm its tough to say, in the Late War Arena you can be competative as long as you are not being horded, try not to end up on the deck during a fight and any plane can hold out for sometime.
You might get 1 kill or 10, frankly I get killed more then I kill, but its the fun of putting a P40 against the typical La7 and P51D.
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It's hell on Cruisers & CV's. You can dive nearly vertical at full throttle without losing control from compression. Used to be used a lot on GV's when you could see them from greater alt. :aok