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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: LATAMER on February 08, 2012, 04:15:21 AM
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Might be weird to ask but thought it might be an interesting topic.
I'm not a very good fighter pilot and I know it but I have learned with time and experience and help of others and improved. For the longest time I was easily getting smoked by specific planes and didn't matter what I did. I had not figured out how to handle the different situations,certain planes abilities and how to counter them to at least give myself a chance. During that time I swear I have developed a personal vendetta against certain planes that drove me up a wall!
- F6F - Drove me up a wall and I called them "flap tards". Annoyed the heck out of me. Tossing their flaps. I always blew it. Didn't matter. I figured the guy was sitting there saying 'look at me - I'm a big ole fat plane and I can turn and loop and blah blah I'm like a butterfly!' Hate them!
- Yak - No idea why I have it out for them but I think I just dislike the name. Or someone drove me up a wall one night and now I have this desire to hunt them down when I see them.
Just two for me. I'm not including the planes the are used a lot to HO or BnZ and runaway. To me its a certain plane that I see and will skip and easy kill (or what looks like one) and I rather go after these two.
My question does anyone else have it out for a specific plane? Just can't stand it? Why? (Outside of the typical HOtard and BnZ run away people)
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109K-4. Because 109 is the main enemy of a Spitfire and a K-4 because it is the 109 equivalent of a Spit14. Another reason why I love shooting them down is because they give me the most trouble.
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Brewster
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P51
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Brewster
The good thing about the Brewster is that you can just ignore them and they'll never catch you. Don't even have to run, just cruise to your original destination looking for less annoying targets.
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If you concentrate on things the way you say... your going to killed going for the F6F who might not be as dangerous as one of the other planes. Determine first which one is most dangerous to you and kill him first unless the situation dictates otherwise (like goon killing).
Personally I could care less if a base gets taken. Three lanc kills are worth more to me than a base but if I can kill the goon and still get three lancs...
That said:
262s are always saying "hey look at me!" Shoot them. HO them. Whatever shot you have. They deserve it. No exceptions.
Bombers that get "gamey" and try to warp their drones into a collision... they have to die. Warping drones suck. Its like bombing the indestructible to mask manned acks. You do that you deserve whats coming. It should be an arena rule to pig pile warping drone pilots. No exceptions.
Spit 14s because aside from my wingman no one knows what they are doing in a Spit14 and they deserve to ride a wingless plane down. No exceptions.
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Spit 14s because aside from my wingman no one knows what they are doing in a Spit14 and they deserve to ride a wingless plane down.
:noid
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Tempest....why they oughta know better than to up a tempest....shakes fist!
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The situation does matter and I won't chase a F6F that is 5k away when I have lower cons near me that could take me out. If I had a choice between an F6F, Pony or 190 I'm going after that F6F most likely. Not like I fly around hunting them and them alone.
Brewsters - flying weedwacker with guns. Bzzz Bzzz Bzzz - lol.
262s are always saying "hey look at me!" Shoot them. HO them. Whatever shot you have. They deserve it. No exceptions.
I like that!
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P-51Ds because they are by far the most common fighter in the MA, yet the plane whiners persistently give it a free pass. Also it is worth gobs of perks when you're in a Mossie.
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n1k's...they have got to stop point and spray...
spit16's have to stop maintaining 450mph also
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Tempests and P-51s, and in the WWI arena DR1's
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Brewster
:aok
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The good thing about the Brewster is that you can just ignore them and they'll never catch you. Don't even have to run, just cruise to your original destination looking for less annoying targets.
Sound advice unless you're fighting other planes.
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I hate, loath, and despise 109K4s with every fiber of my existance.
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PPFT DAM U SPITFIRE!
in order of planes i hate it is
1: spitfire (how do i SHOOOOOT!!! YOU NOOB TEAM MATES U GOTZA MEZ KILLZZZ!)
2:tempest in DA (look at me i destroying the whole danm DA yaaay!....WHAHHHAHAHAH U HAXOR ]Z U SHOTZ MAH PLANZ UPZ! ... let me run)
3: 262 (HHAHAH RUINING EVERY FIGHT!)
4: 109k4 ("pfft silly a6m3 pilot we ALL know that a190k4 can out turn a zero at 90mph. we all know they can go from 90mph back to 400mph in 3 seconds")
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Hurri MK IIC
Admittedly i enjoy flying them, but as soon as i see one i go straight for it. Nothing irritates me more than being in a good fight/furball, then suddenly puuf!! a couple rounds from an upside down, flipping, spinning hurri turns my plane into confetti.
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I hate, loath, and despise 109K4s with every fiber of my existance.
That's how I feel about Spitfires.
- oldman (...well...except the Spit I...)
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I hat Ki's. To me they are the most dangerous in game so if I can bounce one it gets my attention before antthing else. :devil If I miss and it turns it's attention on me I usually die :mad:
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I'm going to guess most of the situations mentioned above concern furballing...........which I consider only 15% of the fun available in game.
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Spits with the "death blossom" stall and UFO-esque recovery from said stall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlAsSyDAWR8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlAsSyDAWR8)
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I go after the biggest threat. No matter what plane type it is..........
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Good thread! Biggest threat to me is whoever is shooting at me. Really can't stand getting collided when I shoot somebody head on and the other guy flies away. Don't know who came up with that system but it stinks
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I go after the biggest threat. No matter what plane type it is..........
Same here, I don't tend to target one specific plane - rather I target the biggest threat within 3k - otherwise the window of "run like hell" gets smaller.
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Good thread! Biggest threat to me is whoever is shooting at me. Really can't stand getting collided when I shoot somebody head on and the other guy flies away. Don't know who came up with that system but it stinks
Don't shoot them head on.
If you DO choose to fight head-on and lose the joust, there is nobody to blame but yourself.
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Wow, this far in and nobody's mentioned the LA once? Guess it's up to me. I go for the biggest threat 90% of the time. I will come down and put myself in a bad position to be ganged just to get to an LA. I do not know why, but they bug me.
Wiley.
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Storch's.
Them is one scary adversary!
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In no particular order:
109 (K4s especially): The fact they can climb great and turn just as well (or better) than the pony. I usually have my hands full with those with they have all the E.
P38s: Just something about them makes me get nervous even if I am over their heads. When they are higher, I defininetly get more nervous.
51B: Because they turn better and are faster then my beloved D model
LA7: My very first sortie of my AH career, I was shot down by one of these pest planes and I've been hating them every since, and take extra enjoyment when shooting them down.
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I hate, loath, and despise 109K4s with every fiber of my existance.
I'm with Reaper there :D I HATE fighting a good K4 stick.
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Don't shoot them head on.
If you DO choose to fight head-on and lose the joust, there is nobody to blame but yourself.
As if I'm not going to shoot the plane coming right for me. :lol :joystick:
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My first sortie in aces high landed 2 kills in a N1K2J.
I haven't flown it since but I love to kill them.
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K4 / 262
I also have a personal vendetta against the radiator on the dora.
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K4 / 262
I also have a personal vendetta against the radiator on the dora.
Don't you mean ack?
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P-51Ds because they are by far the most common fighter in the MA, yet the plane whiners persistently give it a free pass. Also it is worth gobs of perks when you're in a Mossie.
And people complain about the spit having training wheels...the 51D has training wheels AND afterburners
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the 51D has training wheels AND afterburners
:lol :aok
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And people complain about the spit having training wheels...the 51D has training wheels AND afterburners
This is why you up a plane over 20 eny and shoot them down - it gives twice the enjoyment of watching ones wing come off.
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This is why you up a plane over 20 eny and shoot them down - it gives twice the enjoyment of watching ones wing come off.
Yes...The little ole Spit IX....it can't run, it can't hide, it can't out E ya, so when it's in a fight it's completely committed....win or die.
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Don't you mean ack?
Nah, I don't blame ack, I don't think the ack knows any better and I don't expect HTC to teach the ack not to HO.
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I love killing mustangs because I am usually in one and I hate to see it improperly flown. I also hate F4Us (in this game) because they can hover like UFOs and they are the best gun platform in the game. They can hang their nose straight up with almost no E. It is one of the most uber planes in the entire game yet the people who fly them are never ridiculed for doing so. People rag on me for flying the mustang, but when I get in a F4 i feel like im cheating. This is why its stupid to question someones plane choice....Question the way they fly, not what they fly.
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And people complain about the spit having training wheels...the 51D has training wheels AND afterburners
In fairness to the P-51D, it kinda sucks as an actual fighter. I think it is popular primarily for the fact that it is THE P-51D Mustang that "Won the War!™", the fact that it can carry two 1000lb bombs and six 5" rockets while being fairly fast and that it is a decent fighter with smooth handling, nice endurance and good cockpit views.
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I have a vendetta against my own plane, it keeps crashing no matter what I try and do.
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people that say the P51 has training wheels didn't fly it enough
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people that say the P51 has training wheels didn't fly it enough
I did not say it had training wheels but I think it is an easier plane to fly and fight in. I like the B better. Probably 98% of folks who fly it have no idea what a good turner it is.
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I have a vendetta against my own plane, it keeps crashing no matter what I try and do.
In fairness the Trees have a Vendetta against Corky and Soulyss - they lose to many branches to those dreaded B-38s.
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any properly flown spitfire :furious
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when ever i engage multiple planes i will look for any
Hurri Mk IIc
LA-7
BF109 G2 & G6
BF109 K4
Ki-84 la
FW190-A5 & A8
ME262
these are my first targets always....why? well cause those are the rides my squadies tend to fly most and there is almost nothing i enjoy more in this game than killing a MUPPET!!!!!!! those guys are all AZZHATZ!!!!!
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In fairness the Trees have a Vendetta against Corky and Soulyss - they lose to many branches to those dreaded B-38s.
Serves them right for growing too tall and getting in my airspace.
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Spiteverything when flying 205, which is most of the time, they're just not fair. And they're mean too.
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people that say the P51 has training wheels didn't fly it enough
I've flown it plenty and it has training wheels and an afterburner. It turns on a dime at 325 with 1 notch of flaps and 180 degrees later, you're going 300kts. If you don't like the position you've gotten yourself into, that's ok, just turn, dive Nd reset the fight. Try doing that in a spit and you'll have 8, 51Ds running you down like you stole something.
The 51D is NEVER a combat-committed aircraft. The driver has choices presented to him because of the plane that other aircraft do not present their drivers. Is it going to outturn a Zeke? Nope, it doesn't have too....it will just E the Zeke into a knot.
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any properly flown spitfire :furious
:rofl
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I love killing mustangs because I am usually in one and I hate to see it improperly flown...People rag on me for flying the mustang, ...
I'd say there are only a couple of handfuls that try to fight in it the way your or I do, and I don't do it as well as you. :)
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I can pwn spits with the K4s stall characteristics... I haz no fearz!!! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCVK3nhkOAg&feature=plcp&context=C3dab7f4UDOEgsToPDskI9FCAEqCdj8buATejMsGU2
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:noid B-17s :mad: :mad: :mad: they are flying DeathStars! :bhead :bhead
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1) Spitfires. Training wheels of the cartoon fighter pilot.
2) P-38's. I've never been good in one, and I always seem to bump into people like AKAK or Silat.
3) F4U's..... those damn F4U's :noid.
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The 51D is NEVER a combat-committed aircraft.
This is not true. There are a fair number of aircraft that can force the P-51D to commit and a lot more that can do so with just a slight E advantage at the start.
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1) Spitfires. Training wheels of the cartoon fighter pilot.
Just curious, if you'll ever meet someone who flew a Spitfire in the BoB is that what your going to tell them?
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No, I have respect for the actual aircraft, and the pilots that flew it. But they were fighting for their country.
Infact, I think I should put a qualification on there: Spit 16's, and 8's to a significantly lesser degree.
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Just curious, if you'll ever meet someone who flew a Spitfire in the BoB is that what your going to tell them?
Slapped up the side of the head with a reality check. Yeah, yeah, I know, he was talking about the game he does not play, not Real Life.
Come back and play Tank-Ace.
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Just curious, if you'll ever meet someone who flew a Spitfire in the BoB is that what your going to tell them?
If they fly them in ah... most likely yes.
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Slapped up the side of the head with a reality check. Yeah, yeah, I know, he was talking about the game he does not play, not Real Life.
Come back and play Tank-Ace.
Trying, but its really kind of hit me that I have less than 11 months before I'm an adult, and a bit under a year before I really need to get my arse in gear for college. I've actually opted not to play lately so I can put the money towards a new car (engine in my old one blew up, and the lack is making both a part time job and school rather ackward to balance).
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Nikis, Spits, Ponys, L-Gays, and Zekes.
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Trying, but its really kind of hit me that I have less than 11 months before I'm an adult, and a bit under a year before I really need to get my arse in gear for college. I've actually opted not to play lately so I can put the money towards a new car (engine in my old one blew up, and the lack is making both a part time job and school rather ackward to balance).
So your busy preparing for adult life by spamming the message board of a video game you haven't played for months in order to save for a car?
Insert head explodes.gif
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Hardly spamming. I admit I taunt TopGun, but thats a whole seperate thing.
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A lot of interesting comments. My thought about this wasn't about nearest threat but planes I see that I want to kill for various reasons, IE they owned me.
The plane didn't but the player and their better skills and/or my bad judgement. Since the plane was the tool I want that tool dead. Guess it's like the Yankees. Hate them since I was a little kid.
I wasn't speaking of furballs - truly hate them.Turns in to 3 people following the same con, 4 more chasing those 3 and the in mean time there are dozen planes looking for targets or have one stuck on their 6. Why people turn into another plane that already has 2 or 3 or people on it boggles my mind when there are plenty around. I know someone will rationalize it with 'he's the threat' and 'I don't have alt'. Well one plane is not a threat. 4 people don't need to tackle a threat. Then get alt if you don't.
I didn't bring up La7s because they are not worth mentioning. 50% are hotards. 25% are BnZ people that will run run run and they other 25% are the brand new players who want a fast plane and will end up auguring into something.
Fun conversation. I just wanted to know if other people also have personal vendettas against a specific plane for whatever reason.
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I hate the ones with red icons.
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I hate anybody in any plane that goes after silat. I hunt them down till I kill them or die in the process. nobody touches my princess.
semp
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well since i fly the D40---
51D : good perks for the kill, to many people fly them and think they are invicible (damn history channel)
easyfire16 : easy kills, to many flown
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I hate, loath, and despise 109K4s with every fiber of my existance.
Why? most are easy kills...
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Why? most are easy kills...
Why? Because in the time it takes an average stick like me to work into a firing solution on the magical vertical machine, the other 3 or 4 cons have worked their way to a picking solution on me. :lol
I mostly only fly "lone wolf" and it seems most of the times when I encounter K4s they're being flown in a group (gang) by one of several of the squads that pride themselves on their 4v1 skills. But that's the MA so no whine here. ;)
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P-38 and Zeke when flown by a sufficiently skilled pilot. They'll rope me in with promises of a quitck kill and be on my 6 before I have a clue WTF happened. Most planes can do this... but the Zeke and 38 are really good at hiding it.
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Why? Because in the time it takes an average stick like me to work into a firing solution on the magical vertical machine, the other 3 or 4 cons have worked their way to a picking solution on me. :lol
I mostly only fly "lone wolf" and it seems most of the times when I encounter K4s they're being flown in a group (gang) by one of several of the squads that pride themselves on their 4v1 skills. But that's the MA so no whine here. ;)
Same here, I pretty much few lone wolf, or occationally with Devil5O5 in F4's. But probably the 3 hardest planes to deal with on your own in a furball are (not nessicarily in order of difficulty):
1) spitfire
2) 109K
3) Ki-84
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I hate the K4 with a passion
Why? Because I suck in them, and no one else seems to :bhead
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Why? Because in the time it takes an average stick like me to work into a firing solution on the magical vertical machine, the other 3 or 4 cons have worked their way to a picking solution on me. :lol
I mostly only fly "lone wolf" and it seems most of the times when I encounter K4s they're being flown in a group (gang) by one of several of the squads that pride themselves on their 4v1 skills. But that's the MA so no whine here. ;)
Reaper, no offence, but the only time I remember running into you in the MA, you ran from me in a mossie to your friends then ganged me 4v1. So the only thing I see here is you projecting your own behavior.... food for though.
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Whatever the current "easymode" aircraft is. Nothing to do with the plane in particular... it's more about the people who fly them and their "path of least resistance" way of thinking. There have been a few over the years. For the longest time the Spit9 ruled the day (only because the V would compress easily). The La7 and CHog had their turn. The Nik. The Spit16 had a firm grip and is still trying to hang on. Today though, the K-4 rules. An aircraft that can go vertical from a near stall... riiiiiight.
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Which ever one has the lowest ENY.
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Reaper, no offence, but the only time I remember running into you in the MA, you ran from me in a mossie to your friends then ganged me 4v1. So the only thing I see here is you projecting your own behavior.... food for though.
Well Ardy/Bunnies, no offense taken. See, here's the thing: I don't deny ever having dived in on a con that was already engaged, and yeh if I see a friendly or two fighting a K4, HECK YEH I'm going to jump in and take a shot or two and help kill the K4, cause I freakin hate them, the uber vertical freaks that they are. But if you knew me or ever had flown around/with me, which you obviously haven't, you'd know that for every one of those that I jump in on there are 15 or 20 that I see and just keep on flying. I refuse to dive in on even a 1v1 unless the friendly is actively calling for help, and I ALWAYS ask is someone needs help and let 'em know I'm staying out unless they call me.
And I ran from your K4 in my Mossie....... seriously, should I have stayed and fought? If I ran it was probably because I wasn't stupid....there are but a few people in this game that cannot be killed quickly in a Mossie by a 2-week n00b in a co-alt, co-e K4. Sure I ran, if I was in a Mossie, and I'm sure I did turn to help put an end to your miseable K4 as right punishment for you flying a K4 and trying to cherry the easy-kill Mossie. :)
Otherwise, if the plane match-up would have been a bit more "sporting," I'd have fought you, and died, but at least I'd have had a small chance to put up a fight. A few of your squaddies will vouch for the fact that I'm not one bit afraid to throw a Typhoon into a stallfight with K4's, Ki84's, etc... and I die waaaaay more than I live, but it's fun. I'm not giving you that easy kill in a plane where I have less than 1% chance, though, that ain't gettin me my $14.95 worth. Sorry. :)
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Co-e co-alt with 2 weekers at the sticks, the mossie probably has the better chances. It turns tighter, and thats what a lot of noobs seem to like to do.
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Any stupid bloody 109, of about 10 sorties in B-17s, there were about 6 that were ended by 109s. :uhoh
Bombers? I know no fear when I go up against bombers :devil :D
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Co-e co-alt with 2 weekers at the sticks, the mossie probably has the better chances. It turns tighter, and thats what a lot of noobs seem to like to do.
It gets plenty vertical as well...just saying, lol
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Co-e co-alt with 2 weekers at the sticks, the mossie probably has the better chances. It turns tighter, and thats what a lot of noobs seem to like to do.
A two weeker in a Bf109K-4 against a decent guy in the Mossie VI and the Bf109K-4 is pretty screwed. I do think the Bf109 out turns the Mossie slightly, but it doesn't take a lot to over come that, particularly against a two weeker.
Too many people just give up and die when they are in a heavy fighter against point defense fighter, they think the performance gulf between the two is a lot larger than it is. My last kill on a Spit XVI was in a turn and I still pulled it in on his tail and erased him. I pretty much suck these days, though I used to be pretty decent.
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I think you're right for most 109's, but I think the mossie turns a bit better than the 109K. Not entirely sure though.
And a two weeker in a K4 against a mediocre guy in the mossie VI is probably screwed. But the point is that its not an inherent virtue of the Mossquito that dooms the two-weeker. His being a two-weeker flying an aircraft that, by the nature of his status, he has almost zero expierence in with is what dooms him.
And I do agree about the "well I'm screwed, just gonna give it up" mentality. Last kill in a 110 I made was with full bombs and 50% fuel on a spit. Hell, I've even survived a 3v1 in a stuka.
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Don't know that I have any vendettas.
I like to run into 109s, Spits, N1Ks, Ki-84s as the majority of the time those guys will stay in and fight. There is a core group of 109 guys who only stay high and pick but that's not the majority of them.
Generally Mustangs and Corsairs are above and I spend most of my time in matador mode trying to make them miss as they roar in and then back out so it isn't as much fun. Corsairs will eventually start turning if I can hold em off long enough. Most Mustangs outside of a few leave after a couple missed passes.
In Furballs I don't much care for Hurri's and Brews as in a slow fight their advantages are magnified and the Hurri IIC with those cannons seems to have more clout then I'd like it too. But then again it's my fault for getting low and slow all the time.
I suppose in the end, it's the guys who show up over a furball in 262s that I tend to loath. That just seems lazy to me, and more about ruining the fight below then anything else.
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I suppose in the end, it's the guys who show up over a furball in 262s that I tend to loath. That just seems lazy to me, and more about ruining the fight below then anything else.
That is why I will do anything I can to kill an Me262. Bagged another tonight, though I had to HO him. No idea why the Me262 driver consented to do an HO with a Mossie.
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I suppose in the end, it's the guys who show up over a furball in 262s that I tend to loath. That just seems lazy to me, and more about ruining the fight below then anything else.
It really depends Guppy, in a furball I will always take a higher ENY aircraft - flat out horde? I will bring out a 262 and down as many as I can.
I much rather fly something ancient and die with dignity then have to bring a 262 because I can't get a fair fight...
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Whatever the current "easymode" aircraft is. Nothing to do with the plane in particular... it's more about the people who fly them and their "path of least resistance" way of thinking. There have been a few over the years. For the longest time the Spit9 ruled the day (only because the V would compress easily). The La7 and CHog had their turn. The Nik. The Spit16 had a firm grip and is still trying to hang on. Today though, the K-4 rules. An aircraft that can go vertical from a near stall... riiiiiight.
so pretty much every plane then :lol....I can BS on he spit9, the spitV was always the preferred ride until it got "adjusted"
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A two weeker in a Bf109K-4 against a decent guy in the Mossie VI and the Bf109K-4 is pretty screwed. I do think the Bf109 out turns the Mossie slightly, but it doesn't take a lot to over come that, particularly against a two weeker.
Too many people just give up and die when they are in a heavy fighter against point defense fighter, they think the performance gulf between the two is a lot larger than it is. My last kill on a Spit XVI was in a turn and I still pulled it in on his tail and erased him. I pretty much suck these days, though I used to be pretty decent.
OK, maybe saying "2 week n00b" was a bit of a stretch, but point is still that a mossie vs anyone in a K4 that has or has ever been in close proximity to a clue about flaps and throttle, the mossie is going bye-bye.
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OK, maybe saying "2 week n00b" was a bit of a stretch, but point is still that a mossie vs anyone in a K4 that has or has ever been in close proximity to a clue about flaps and throttle, the mossie is going bye-bye.
As I said, people give up too fast. The only reason that I lost the last such fight I was in was because I was blowing energy dodging Mr. Bf109K-4's Fw190D-9 buddy at the same time. Almost got the K-4 despite that.
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Just curious, if you'll ever meet someone who flew a Spitfire in the BoB is that what your going to tell them?
He's a classic luftwhiner
Trying, but its really kind of hit me that I have less than 11 months before I'm an adult, and a bit under a year before I really need to get my arse in gear for college. I've actually opted not to play lately so I can put the money towards a new car (engine in my old one blew up, and the lack is making both a part time job and school rather ackward to balance).
:rofl :rofl
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I can pwn spits with the K4s stall characteristics... I haz no fearz!!! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCVK3nhkOAg&feature=plcp&context=C3dab7f4UDOEgsToPDskI9FCAEqCdj8buATejMsGU2
good show! :aok :aok :airplane:
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La7. Cos mine should be the only one :neener:
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Particular 38's and f4u's
there are just some that no matter what I try they turn me inside out with ease......I will get them one day ....that day though, seems to be a log way off
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Though I don't fly that much as of late, I'd have to say the top 3 I hate to see in order are the K4, nikki, and pretty much any hog. On the flip of that I do have to say one of the planes I really love to go up against is the nikki.
I fly a 51B pretty exclusive anymore, and really not all that well probably, but I do ok for the time I spend in it, and I do fly it wrong... I hate BnZ..... Like to turn, if I flew another plane maybe I would not have such a hate for the K4, seems every time I cross paths with one or several at a time it's always the really good sticks/ shots in them :salute
In the end it is fun though, and thats what it's about to me :x
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I'll pick out the LA's if the opportunity presents itself, because I want to see who is better.
K-4's, F4U-4's because on average they give me the most trouble. (when properly flown)
47M's too because I beleive they do everything the LA can do.. and somethings better.