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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Tordon22 on February 08, 2012, 09:19:44 AM
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It has come to my attention that the tanks fights of AH have suffered greatly from the spawn camp. I have also been wanting to see this idea in game for quite some time, so here goes.
Anti-tank dogs. Russian idea, 1942-onwards. Dogs were taught to seek food under vehicles and strapped with explosives. Dog runs under the opposing tanks and were detonated. End of story. Google for images and even videos of them.
Now, this would obviously be weird to implement and would be awfully annoying to have an unlimited supply running around. But I believe we can find a system that works, IE a large perk cost to allow the dogs to be purchased immediately to give people a chance to remove that annoying spawn camper. Or we can borrow a concept from an amazing game in an amazing community on an awesome system. This would be Call of Duty for the Xbox or Playstation. In that game they allow you to cash in kills for various items or bonuses. The floor is open for any debate but I'm thinkin somewhere in the neigh boorhood of 6-10 kills would allow you to unlock a anti tank dog.
There is also mention of the effectiveness of these dogs, sometimes blowing up their own tanks. I think there should be some probability involved here like with our puffy ack. Maybe 85% chance to destroy the enemy tank, 5% chance to destroy your own, 10% chance it finds a can of puppies choice halfway and is never seen again. I'm thinking either a direct effect on a targeted tank by unleashing the puppy, or a person controlled dog, allowing for sneakiness and dodging of enemy fire. These dogs will obviously be able to be destroyed by small arms fire and may give actual purpose to the pintle and turret guns of some tanks.
Thanks for your time, DWMW.
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:huh
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It has come to my attention that the tanks fights of AH have suffered greatly from the spawn camp. I have also been wanting to see this idea in game for quite some time, so here goes.
Anti-tank dogs. Russian idea, 1942-onwards. Dogs were taught to seek food under vehicles and strapped with explosives. Dog runs under the opposing tanks and were detonated. End of story. Google for images and even videos of them.
Now, this would obviously be weird to implement and would be awfully annoying to have an unlimited supply running around. But I believe we can find a system that works, IE a large perk cost to allow the dogs to be purchased immediately to give people a chance to remove that annoying spawn camper. Or we can borrow a concept from an amazing game in an amazing community on an awesome system. This would be Call of Duty for the Xbox or Playstation. In that game they allow you to cash in kills for various items or bonuses. The floor is open for any debate but I'm thinkin somewhere in the neigh boorhood of 6-10 kills would allow you to unlock a anti tank dog.
There is also mention of the effectiveness of these dogs, sometimes blowing up their own tanks. I think there should be some probability involved here like with our puffy ack. Maybe 85% chance to destroy the enemy tank, 5% chance to destroy your own, 10% chance it finds a can of puppies choice halfway and is never seen again. I'm thinking either a direct effect on a targeted tank by unleashing the puppy, or a person controlled dog, allowing for sneakiness and dodging of enemy fire. These dogs will obviously be able to be destroyed by small arms fire and may give actual purpose to the pintle and turret guns of some tanks.
Thanks for your time, DWMW.
Davidwales is back :rofl
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Recruiter: We're looking for volunteers to eat food.
Dog: Woof!
Recruiter: You must be willing to travel and eat food.
Dog: Woof!
Recruiter: The job involves chasing vehicles and eating food.
Dog: Woof! Woof!
Recruiter: You'll be working with 3 different countries. Do you speak any other languages?
Dog: Meow?
Recruiter: Great. Let's just get these explosives strapped to your back.
Dog: Grrrrrrrrrr.
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Dogs were taught to seek food under vehicles and strapped with explosives. Dog runs under the opposing tanks and were detonated. End of story. Google for images and even videos of them.
Peta has taken your idea under advisement and will get back to you ... BOY! will they get BACK TO YOU !!!
:devil
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David Wales would have wanted this.
+1
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I would also like to supplement to this wish. Based on the severity of the spawn camp, dogs with different abilities can be selected to be used. For example if it is a very minor camp, a dachshund who isn't very hungry could be selected. Whether or not he makes it to his target is really kind of a crap shoot. If the camp is severe, obviously you would have very hungry, well trained, nimble, and fast, Australian shepards that would make their target most of the time. Would definitely add to the dynamics of tank battles and turn the tides of war quite effectively. :salute
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while this was used by the soviets IF this were brought in they should be modeled properly. they used t34s to train these animals which were gasoline powered but in combat the panzers were diesel so the dogs wouldent think they were targets but would instead target thier own tanks!!!! besides i dont think they were deployed in squa, errr pack strength
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I'd rather have the rpg donkey before :old:
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+1 long live david wales!
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what kind of dogs we talking about? chihuahua won't work.
you really need to get more research.
Semp
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There's no copypasta from wikipedia here... I can't follow the idea.
Wiley.
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His spirit lives on through us. <solitary tear streams down cheek>
+1
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I thought that the Russians trained these dogs to find food under russian tanks though?
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Come on guys, a lot of you like to brag about your 'dog fyteing' skills but those same few seem to be cowering at the thought of actual dogs.
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Come on guys, a lot of you like to brag about your 'dog fyteing' skills but those same few seem to be cowering at the thought of actual dogs.
People would probably game the game by turning up the dog panting noises to an unrealistic level so they can hear the dogs come and pwn them with top guns. If this is implemented there should be no volume adjustment option for the dogs.
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What does this remind me of?......Oh yeah, who was it that won the cold war?
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I want this just so I can see a dozen mutts with TNT strapped to them as a loadout option for the M3 in the hanger....
:banana:
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So killing dogs? The only people using this tactic if it ever gets implanted is animal haters.
-1 and -1 it never saw operation I think
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Someone must have been one of the "campees" at V135 last night.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/woosle_2006/V135_Crack.jpg)
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David Wales would have wanted this.
+1
Wasn't your avatar davidwales avatar? Talk about more davidwales. Ohhh lordy lordy :uhoh
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-1 it never saw operation I think
I know it may be tough with not many brain cells, but try and think again.
ack-ack
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what kind of dogs we talking about? chihuahua won't work.
:rofl
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while this was used by the soviets IF this were brought in they should be modeled properly. they used t34s to train these animals which were gasoline powered but in combat the panzers were diesel so the dogs wouldent think they were targets but would instead target thier own tanks!!!! besides i dont think they were deployed in squa, errr pack strength
Switch those tanks. T-34's had diesel engines, while the Panzers burned gasoline.
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I know it may be tough with not many brain cells, but try and think again.
ack-ack
JERK HAVE SOME RESPECT IM TRYING AT LEAST! :furious :mad:
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(http://users.tpg.com.au/steelyj//this_is_dog.png)
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"Mom, theres a message from the War Dept. concerning the dog".
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/lassie.jpg)
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This idea is bril! Also can I have a cage on top of my tank full of Bat Bombs that can be released to home in on bomb****s and blow them from the sky?
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If we ever got into a third world war and came to resorting to using dogs as suicide doggy attacks on tanks (well, it isn't suicide since the dog has no idea it is about ready to die) then let me be the first to volunteer my neighbors dog :devil....I can't stand that dog and he'll literally bark at anything that moves.
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(http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Units/AttackDog/RA3_AttackDog1.jpg)
Here are your suicide dogs, now go play Red Alert 2.
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Who proposed this in the first place? Michael Vick?
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Who proposed this in the first place? Michael Vick?
:uhoh :bolt:
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left click barks, right click booms
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(http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Units/AttackDog/RA3_AttackDog1.jpg)
Here are your suicide dogs, now go play Red Alert 2.
AoEIII's better than Red Alert "3" the RA2 dogs actually were useful
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Who proposed this in the first place? Michael Vick?
lol
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(http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Units/AttackDog/RA3_AttackDog1.jpg)
Here are your suicide dogs, now go play Red Alert 2.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Now I have an urge to play the Red Alert series.
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Recruiter: We're looking for volunteers to eat food.
Dog: Woof!
Recruiter: You must be willing to travel and eat food.
Dog: Woof!
Recruiter: The job involves chasing vehicles and eating food.
Dog: Woof! Woof!
Recruiter: You'll be working with 3 different countries. Do you speak any other languages?
Dog: Meow?
Recruiter: Great. Let's just get these explosives strapped to your back.
Dog: Grrrrrrrrrr.
:rofl :old:
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So killing dogs? The only people using this tactic if it ever gets implanted is animal haters.
-1 and -1 it never saw operation I think
:huh
:bhead
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Switch those tanks. T-34's had diesel engines, while the Panzers burned gasoline.
Don't know about T34's but I was always of the understanding that the Panzers were diesels, one of the (many) reasons they had an advantage on the 'Merican tanks in combat - they tended to not explode when hit like the "Tommy cookers" did.
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Have I recently woken up in the Twilight Zone...where the world is turned upside down, no means yes, and stupid ideas are mistaken for great ones??? :ahand :bhead
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"Mom, theres a message from the War Dept. concerning the dog".
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/lassie.jpg)
dad you told me that lassie went to school to learn about well safety :lol
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So killing dogs? The only people using this tactic if it ever gets implanted is animal haters.
-1 and -1 it never saw operation I think
This was an actual tactic used by the Russians and on more than a fewe occasions, Lassie DID come right back home and blew plenty of those dumbarse REussians to hell, thus helping rather than hindering the Nazi's. Only worked a few times. Do the research
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I like how many of you vote no, but you can't offer any constructive criticism or counter points. I think its a unique way to deal with spawn camps and the like.
Discuss.
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Don't you mean kamikanines?
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Don't you mean kamikanines?
(http://www.profilebrand.com/funny-pictures/category/demotivational/12_you-funny-kid.gif)
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(http://www.justsaypictures.com/images/wwii-was-funny.jpg)
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(http://www.justsaypictures.com/images/wwii-was-funny.jpg)
:rofl
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Don't know about T34's but I was always of the understanding that the Panzers were diesels, one of the (many) reasons they had an advantage on the 'Merican tanks in combat - they tended to not explode when hit like the "Tommy cookers" did.
Nope. The Panzer's along with most M4's burned gasoline. Armor at cosine thickness (on the hull, the panzer's turret has always been a weakness) between the two tanks has a difference of a mere 5mm. The difference is that the German panzer's (well, the Panzer IV at least) had been carrying the KwK 40 since mid 1942, while the Allies didn't upgun the M4 untill July of 1944.
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I was under the impression that it wasnt the fuel so much as it was the ordinance carried.
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Don't know about T34's but I was always of the understanding that the Panzers were diesels, one of the (many) reasons they had an advantage on the 'Merican tanks in combat - they tended to not explode when hit like the "Tommy cookers" did.
Gasoline had nothing to do with the tendency of early Sherman's catching fire when hit, it was due to the dry stowage of the tank shells in the turret of the tank that caused around 80% of early Shermans to catch fire. As soon as wet stowage was introduced, the rate of Shermans catching fire dramatically dropped.
ack-ack
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mmmm hot dogs
pass the chili
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:headscratch: Think I would prefer the CV killers more than the tank killers.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/imagesCAUYKJ86.jpg)
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If we have suicide dogs, then I want suicide pigeons! :P
Oh ... wait one. They never got to squadron strength did they?
Scratch that.
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I thought this was AH and not CoD WaW?!?! :headscratch: :huh
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If we have suicide dogs, then I want suicide pigeons! :P
Oh ... wait one. They never got to squadron strength did they?
Scratch that.
didnt it take an entire squadron to knock out a plane?
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didnt it take an entire squadron to knock out a plane?
actually pigeons were never used to attack planes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf1bx37lh_M
"I just remembered my Charlemagne...'Let my armies be the rocks and the trees, and the birds in the sky."
semp
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actually pigeons were never used to attack planes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf1bx37lh_M
"I just remembered my Charlemagne...'Let my armies be the rocks and the trees, and the birds in the sky."
semp
hahaha that is too funny i was gunna post that link but those arent pigeons hahaha!
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hahaha that is too funny i was gunna post that link but those arent pigeons hahaha!
yeah that's why i said pigeons were never used :D.
semp
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Recruiter: We're looking for volunteers to eat food.
Dog: Woof!
Recruiter: You must be willing to travel and eat food.
Dog: Woof!
Recruiter: The job involves chasing vehicles and eating food.
Dog: Woof! Woof!
Recruiter: You'll be working with 3 different countries. Do you speak any other languages?
Dog: Meow?
Recruiter: Great. Let's just get these explosives strapped to your back.
Dog: Grrrrrrrrrr.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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(http://doggles.com/images/doggles_3.jpg)
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:headscratch: Think I would prefer the CV killers more than the tank killers.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/imagesCAUYKJ86.jpg)
:rofl
If we have suicide dogs, then I want suicide pigeons! :P
Oh ... wait one. They never got to squadron strength did they?
Scratch that.
I think I remeber hearing something on an experiment in using pigeons to guide bombs.
And +1 to all animal weapons!
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*scratches chin*
DWMW = Jihad Extremists = confirmed.
:devil :bolt:
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Anti tank dogs is a ridiculous, wimpy idea.
Instead, I propose anti-tank dinosaurs. If they are large enough, no exposives would be needed. Have them randomly spawn at spawn sites, and home on the nearest nme.
(http://home.comcast.net/~mark.hinds/misc_online_storage_dir/dino_versus_tank.jpg)
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I think they pulled the sheep out of the game because of concerns about sheep terrorist.
They could already flip a tank... all they needed is a bomb.
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Great! Now we just need to established code purple : animal right activist on AH.