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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: DMVIAGRA on February 15, 2012, 05:23:40 AM
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(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/images/ki27-2.jpg)
The Nakajima Ki-27 was used in the Philippines, Burma and Malaya. However, during the later stages of the Second World War it was replaced by more modern aircraft and in 1945 was used to carry out kamikaze attacks on Allied shipping.
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Production:
3,399 (2,020 by Nakajima, 1,379 by Mansyu)
Powerplant:
Ki-27a:
Model: Nakajima Ha-1b
Type: Air-Cooled radial
Horsepower: 710 hp
Dimensions:
Wing Span: 37 ft. 1½ in. (11.31m)
Length: 24 ft. 8½ in. (7.53m)
Height: 10 ft. 8 in. (3.25m)
Wing Area: 199.68 sq. ft. (18.55m²)
Weights:
Empty: 2,447 lb (1110 kg)
Loaded: 3,946 lb (1790 kg)
Performance:
Max. Speed: 292 mph (470 kph) at 11,485 ft.
Service Ceiling: 40,190 ft. (12250m)
Range: 389 miles (625 km)
Armament:
Two 7.7mm forward firing machine guns.
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http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/nakajimaki27.html
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWki27.htm
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710hp?!? only two 7.7mm? no thanks...
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a Fi 156 killer?
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a Fi 156 killer?
Probably the only thing it would be good at.
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One man.....58 victories in the ki27.....in 3 months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromichi_Shinohara
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looks like a zero with fixed gear
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One man.....58 victories in the ki27.....in 3 months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromichi_Shinohara
:aok Thanks, always like to learn something else.
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710hp?!? only two 7.7mm? no thanks...
:rofl that's what I thought. Then I thought again. Why don't you just take a D3A, reduce the throttle a bit, and pretend you're shooting at stuff in front of you?? :lol :lol :D :bolt:
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:rofl that's what I thought. Then I thought again. Why don't you just take a D3A, reduce the throttle a bit, and pretend you're shooting at stuff in front of you?? :lol :lol :D :bolt:
I don't think the Ki-27 should be anywhere near the front of the line, but you do realize that it is 50mph faster than the D3A1, right? As to the 710hp, that is not as bad as it could be due to the aircraft's light weight, it isn't like sticking a 710hp engine on a Ki-84, or even on an A6M. From a maneuverability standpoint no other fighter in WWII would come close to it, not even the Ki-43 or A6M.
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Seems like you can score a great number of victories in just about any aircraft as long as you're fighting Russians. :confused:
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It must have very little armor...
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Ki-27 will likely never make it in the game if it does - it will be a long time, it was outdated before the war began and was being withdrawn from service before December 7th to be replaced with Ki-43s.
Some units remained as trainers, others were being upgraded.
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Manchukuo Imperial Air Force flew the Ki-27b up until the end of the war and was its primary fighter type. One was even credited with downing a B-29.
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Manchukuo Imperial Air Force flew the Ki-27b up until the end of the war and was its primary fighter type. One was even credited with downing a B-29.
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They were held in reserve in Mancheria because of the Russians correct? I know a few fighter squadrons were, can't remember them off hand.
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Manchukuo Imperial Air Force flew the Ki-27b up until the end of the war and was its primary fighter type. One was even credited with downing a B-29.
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Really? Any source or literature?
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Really? Any source or literature?
December 1944, B-29 lost due to being rammed by a Ki-27 from the MIAF.
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Really? Any source or literature?
Yes there are a few fighter units that flew in Mancheria (afraid of the russian's so they were stationed there, for example seoul) in fact over 100,000 japanese troops stayed in Korea/Mancheria because of it during the war to garrison incase of an invasion by Russian's in the far east.
Russian's did boast quite a large garrison near Mancheria, with T-34s, Yak-3s and Migs along with IL-2s so it wasn't like it was undefended on both sides.
If you look up vladivostok on google maps you can see just how close the Russians were to the Japanese.
changchun was one of the major Japanese defensive bases along with the HQ of the Mancherian defense for the region.
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From a maneuverability standpoint no other fighter in WWII would come close to it, not even the Ki-43 or A6M.
I'm sure that several biplane fighters had a smaller turning radius. I'm sure that most of them lost on the roll rate though.
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Seems like you can score a great number of victories in just about any aircraft as long as you're fighting Russians. :confused:
The number of victories claimed by the Japanese during the Nomonhan incident is greatly exaggerated.
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I'm shocked!
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Given what little I remember of the Battles of Khalkhin Gol, I do remember Ki-27's claiming hundreds of I-16s shot down - one thing that was stated was
the Japanese were very impressed with the I-16's armor, some would take hundreds of 7.7's and still fly.
I have a book on Japanese Army Air Aces, and it goes into pretty good detail on the subject, I do recall the Japanese got their tail whipped at this skirmish, which was one of the reasons they left so many troops around Mongolia and Manchuria.
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Japanese claimed 1340 aircraft destroyed in the air and 30 on ground (source: Francillon). Soviets on the other hand said that they only had 450 aircraft in the theatre.
Based on a table here: http://www.warbirdforum.com/russloss.htm (http://www.warbirdforum.com/russloss.htm), Soviets lost 207 aircraft in combat.
So the Japanese losses of 120 are still less than what the Soviets lost but it is pretty clear today that Soviet losses of over 1000 didn't happen.
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710hp?!? only two 7.7mm? no thanks...
I see no prob with that.
LA7 and Spitle16s gonna be hating life with one one their 6. No prob getting on their 6 either!
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I see no prob with that.
LA7 and Spitle16s gonna be hating life with one one their 6. No prob getting on their 6 either!
Pretty sure a La7 can accelerate out of range long before those puny 7.7s have any real chance at destroying it.
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Pretty sure a La7 can accelerate out of range long before those puny 7.7s have any real chance at destroying it.
P-47N can't. :devil
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Pretty sure a La7 can accelerate out of range long before those puny 7.7s have any real chance at destroying it.
Just because they can does not always mean they are safe...
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Fish42&kcnt=21&selectTour=LWTour142&pindex=69
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Pretty sure a La7 can accelerate out of range long before those puny 7.7s have any real chance at destroying it.
I love to fly average (or below average) planes and shred 5 ENYs. Unfortunately this means sometimes when I get to where I'm headed the war has gone somewhere else. I don't recommend this for those consumed with score and stats.
A C202, for instance, can drop in from above. If 250 out or less = does not take long at all. I'm just say'n. :D
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I voye yes!
Helm ...out
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It's inclusion would make some of the scenarios more realistic, esp if we had a 'fly'n tigers' based one.
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It's inclusion would make some of the scenarios more realistic, esp if we had a 'fly tigers' based one.
True. Will be difficult to recruit for the Japanese side.
- oldman
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I love to fly average (or below average) planes and shred 5 ENYs. Unfortunately this means sometimes when I get to where I'm headed the war has gone somewhere else. I don't recommend this for those consumed with score and stats.
A C202, for instance, can drop in from above. If 250 out or less = does not take long at all. I'm just say'n. :D
a C202 has much heavier armament.
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I love to fly average (or below average) planes and shred 5 ENYs. Unfortunately this means sometimes when I get to where I'm headed the war has gone somewhere else. I don't recommend this for those consumed with score and stats.
A C202, for instance, can drop in from above. If 250 out or less = does not take long at all. I'm just say'n. :D
a C202 has much heavier armament.
Indeed. The Ki-43 with two 12.7mm guns is much more comparable to the C.202 in terms of firepower.
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What about releasing Ki-27 for V-base? :D it could use even at rough terrain...
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Storch escort? :neener:
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One was even credited with downing a B-29.
Well ..... credited ..... ummmm ...... I get those for pilots who auger around me. (As others get credit for me augering around them.)
:D
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It would be usefull for 1942 AVG/Burma setups.
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It would be usefull for 1942 AVG/Burma setups.
Would be useful in a Russio-Japanese event againt the Mosca (well, if an earlier Mosca is modeled).
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it was the main adversary of the AVG.
when I was a kid my fave book was about the Flying Tigers. it always referred to them fighting 'Zeros'
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it was the main adversary of the AVG.
when I was a kid my fave book was about the Flying Tigers. it always referred to them fighting 'Zeros'
I still want the Oscar to be added.. It saw as much if not more service than the Nate.
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I still want the Oscar to be added.. It saw as much if not more service than the Nate.
Ki-43 saw very much more service than the Ki-27 did.
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Ki-43 saw very much more service than the Ki-27 did.
Think he was referring to service life, which Ardy is correct. The Ki-27 did have a longer service life, it was still in action with some Japanese allied air forces up until the end of the war.
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:banana: :banana: I will stick with my Bettys...! Best Perk farmer in the game! :old: :x :rolleyes:
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:banana: :banana: I will stick with my Bettys...! Best Perk farmer in the game! :old: :x :rolleyes:
Wasn't I the one that told you that? lol
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Wasn't I the one that told you that? lol
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss147/tnelson3_bucket/WWII/e1fa5ce6567e.jpg)
No but I want me some bacon...
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If the A6m2 is eny 40, this would be eny 80.
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:banana: :banana: I will stick with my Bettys...! Best Perk farmer in the game! :old: :x :rolleyes:
Actually the Ki-67 is markedly superior to the G4M1 as a perk farmer. While it generates slightly less perks per successful sortie, those sorties are faster and far more likely to be successful.
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I tend to rarely ever die in the G4M, and always get at least 15-20 perks a sortie with it.