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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: SELECTOR on February 16, 2012, 03:13:33 PM
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I have read these things blasted their way all the way to berlin.. i don't have much info on them.
maybe one of you experts have some data.
all i know is they had a 5.9 inch gun, they weighed 46 tons, speed 26 mph and crew of 5
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I hate them in wot, so yes would be cool to have them properly coded in a game.
Semp
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I got info and pics:
Type Self-propelled heavy artillery
Place of origin Soviet Union
Specifications
Weight 45.5 tonnes (100,300 lb)
Length 8.95 m (29 ft 4 in)
Width 3.25 m (10 ft 8 in)
Height 2.45 m (8 ft)
Crew 5
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Armor Front: 75 mm (2.95 in)
Side: 60 mm (2.36 in)
Roof: 20 mm (0.78 in)
Main
armament 152 mm ML-20S gun-howitzer, with 20 rounds
Secondary
armament 12.7 mm DShK machine-gun (optional)
Engine 12-cyl. 4-stroke diesel model V-2K
600 hp (450 kW)
Power/weight 13 hp/t
Suspension torsion bar
Operational
range 330 km (205 mi)
Speed 43 km/h (27 mph
Pic of Tank:(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x347/1Nicolas/300px-11-Heavy_self_propelled_gun_su_152-LMW.jpg)
Pic of its massive gun:(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x347/1Nicolas/300px-ML-20S_152mm_howitzer-gun_M1937_for_SU-152.jpg)
This thing can knock out a Panther or Tiger I and II head on. Good choice! :aok
+1
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SU-100 First :aok
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Such a smexy tank. :D
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Su-152? Any relation to the Sukhoi aircraft manufacturer? :headscratch:
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+1
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SU-100 First :aok
didnt this gun penetrate better then any gun in he war?
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didnt this gun penetrate better then any gun in he war?
nope, german 128mm was better not to mention american 16incher lol
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nope, german 128mm was better not to mention american 16incher lol
You forgot the Japanese 18 incher.
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didnt this gun penetrate better then any gun in he war?
No, The 152 was an assault gun with an extremely LOW rate of fire - I think (top of my head) 1-2 rounds a minute.
With APHE you are looking at penetrating 125mm at 1,000 yards .
There are a number of 100 and 122mm guns far better off then the 152, for example Su-100 which penetrated over 120mms at 2,000 yards.
Then again this would be a heavily perked tank, however it would be able to combat a King tiger, and Panther/Tiger for sure.
Su-152, Su-122 ISU-152 and ISU-122 were all assault guns, they were made to blast through german defenses not combat tanks, in the last ditch effort they could and in fact using High explosive rounds had a fair chance to knock out a tank with a hit to the turret ring.
Even with its horrible rate of fire, the size of the guns and penetration it would be perked which is the only down side.
Not sure exactly what it would be perked too since the only non-turret tank we have is the M3(75).
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Yes to this and the 100
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SU-100 First :aok
Su-100 is basically a Su-85 with 100mm D10 gun I think? :headscratch:
I would agree it has a faster firing rate then the 152mm.
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+1 good choice plus with this and was it called k1 or kv-1 they could own any tank on the battle or for that matter any one
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Su-100 is basically a Su-85 with 100mm D10 gun I think? :headscratch:
I would agree it has a faster firing rate then the 152mm.
Actually it doesn't a good crew loaded 4 rounds a minute same as the 152mm - the reason is because there's a powdered charge that has to go behind the shell itself, slowing down the firing rate - where an 85mm or 88mm would simply be the shell itself.
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nope, german 128mm was better not to mention american 16incher lol
I meant GVs not Battleships.
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I meant GVs not Battleships.
ya ya i figured
:P
look up karl moser "thor" "loki" and "odin"
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With the Su-152 the guns round could take the top off a tiger. The pressure alone of the exploding round could kill the entire crew of the tiger.
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Currently grinding the Su-152 in WoT!
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as always the HTC community DATA BASE has come up trumps.
thanks for pics and info :aok
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The Su-152 would be at a great disadvantage in AH. It's lack of turret and horrid reload rate (projectile and powder charge) would be the death of it.
The Su-100 would be a better fit for AH, imo. Fast reload rate and a superior AP capability would at least give it a chance.
I maintain the Su-100 or StuG III would be the best of the "turret-less" AFV's to be added to the game first. Both would be at a disadvantage from the get go because of the lack of a turret and the lack of 0° pivot capability (can't pivot in place).
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The Su-152 would be at a great disadvantage in AH. It's lack of turret and horrid reload rate (projectile and powder charge) would be the death of it.
The Su-100 would be a better fit for AH, imo. Fast reload rate and a superior AP capability would at least give it a chance.
I maintain the Su-100 or StuG III would be the best of the "turret-less" AFV's to be added to the game first. Both would be at a disadvantage from the get go because of the lack of a turret and the lack of 0° pivot capability (can't pivot in place).
Wouldn't it be easiest to add a Jagdpanther first. Panther Chassis with TigerII's gun, both already in game. Definitly a perked animal, but should be easy to add. Albeit we could really use a Stug first.
:salute
BigRat
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The Su-152 would be at a great disadvantage in AH. It's lack of turret and horrid reload rate (projectile and powder charge) would be the death of it.
The Su-100 would be a better fit for AH, imo. Fast reload rate and a superior AP capability would at least give it a chance.
I maintain the Su-100 or StuG III would be the best of the "turret-less" AFV's to be added to the game first. Both would be at a disadvantage from the get go because of the lack of a turret and the lack of 0° pivot capability (can't pivot in place).
Most claimed the M-18 was a great disadvantage in Aces High, as much as annoying a turret-less AFV would be in aces high, they served in combat in huge numbers and played a role.
I've been wanting the Jagdpanzer IV and L/70 models, one has a L/48 (same gun on a Panzer 4) other has a Panthers gun, turretless of course. However the extremely low silhouette would make it a very tough target to hit, with pretty good armor up front.
Tanking comes down to tactics, if used correctly tank hunters can do their job quite well as any other tank, just without a turret.