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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Biggamer on February 29, 2012, 04:15:55 PM
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ok so my screen keep flashing white and saying out of video memory from another thread they seem to think just adding Ram will help this problem so i wanna buy Ram but dont know what my system can and can not hold so can anyone please help me with what i need to get please.
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Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Basic (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.111025-0338)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: FOXCONN
System Model: M61PMV
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Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor (2 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 2046MB RAM
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT
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Shared Memory: 767 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
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ok so my screen keep flashing white and saying out of video memory from another thread they seem to think just adding Ram will help this problem so i wanna buy Ram but dont know what my system can and can not hold so can anyone please help me with what i need to get please.
You need to upgrade your graphics card. Adding memory to your computer won't help.
Buy a 150 dollar graphics card - any model from nvidia or AMD will do the trick.
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You do need ram too, 2 gigs really isn't much when running vista as it uses some to help your video card out as well.
Go here http://www.crucial.com/systemscanner/ and download the scanner. run it and it will suggest the ram you need and how much you can use. You don't have to buy crucial memory if you don't want to but it is a pretty good like checked unit they have.
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Its something going on with the game. Ive never seen it before and all of a sudden people including myself are having the problem. Its a HTC issue.
Kam
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ok so my screen keep flashing white and saying out of video memory from another thread they seem to think just adding Ram will help this problem so i wanna buy Ram but dont know what my system can and can not hold so can anyone please help me with what i need to get please.
Turn off all AA and all Shadows
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Its something going on with the game. Ive never seen it before and all of a sudden people including myself are having the problem. Its a HTC issue.
Kam
Even if thats true that nvidia 9400 has abysmal performance. If he can afford it 100-150 bucks will take his performance to a whole new level.
2 gigs in Vista is enough if he keeps his computer clean and doesn't play any more demanding games than AH2. More won't hurt either of course.
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Turn off all AA and all Shadows
I agree my specs are e8400 at 3.2ghz 4 gig of ddr3 ram and a Radeon hd5850 video card and I am taking huge fps drops I to the low teens and 10s in annoying 3 second bursts. It can't be everyone system and its not anything we did?
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before the update i had no problems i ran at 58-60 Frame rate and smooth after the update i still run at 58-60 when im not around much action but when i get around alot i now drop into the 30s sometimes 20s so i figured the update was too much for my PC so i figured it was time to update somethings but maybe it aint me if others are having the same problem. Fugitive thanks for the help i am ordering the ram i need. The others that helped me Thank you aswell ill get me a new card in a couple weeks <<S>>
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I agree my specs are e8400 at 3.2ghz 4 gig of ddr3 ram and a Radeon hd5850 video card and I am taking huge fps drops I to the low teens and 10s in annoying 3 second bursts. It can't be everyone system and its not anything we did?
I'm running an Intel i7-930 (socket 1366) with a Radeon HD 5850 (http://kenshelby.us/docs/pc-parts.html) and I see a pretty steady 60 FPS almost all the time. Only around huge furballs or the main city/factory complex does it go as low as 40 FPS. <shrug>
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If you are running into issues with FPS dropping out or OOM issues the best thing to do is to limit texture size and turn shadowing off (I also recommend turning off bump mapping). Any changes in the way you had graphics settings configured prior to the latest version update should be returned to their previous settings. Doing this should result in the same performance you had prior to the latest updates.
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Hey BG, there are many things on the to-do list.
-Upgrade your windows. Vista isnt really suitable for games. Win7 is much better.
-the geforce 9400 is an aging video card and was very weak even when it came out. As Ripley said, any 150 bucks video card should run AH just fine.
-----if you do theese 2 above, your game must run just fine
-get some Ram. 2GB isnt much... but keep in mind, more than 4GB Ram (system and video ram together) needs a 64 bit OS. DDR3 ram is very cheap nowadays, but they need an AM3 motherboard.
-your CPU is quite weak. PhenomIIs must be dirt cheap, they fit in the AM2+ and AM3 motherboards (not in the AM2). I would try to get a quad core one.
Best wishes :salute
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Its something going on with the game. Ive never seen it before and all of a sudden people including myself are having the problem. Its a HTC issue.
Kam
I am going to have to agree here. I don't have a super high end system but I shouldn't be getting stutters and dropping down to 20-30fps over a field. I do have every thing turned on but my shadow size is at 2048.
I5-2500K at stock 3.3-3.7ghz
16gig 1600 ram
Hd6950 2gb card
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I am going to have to agree here. I don't have a super high end system but I shouldn't be getting stutters and dropping down to 20-30fps over a field. I do have every thing turned on but my shadow size is at 2048.
I5-2500K at stock 3.3-3.7ghz
16gig 1600 ram
Hd6950 2gb card
you do have a super high end. you should be running with frames down to 56 or 57 max and that's with 300 cons over cv ack with a base on fire. do you have ground clutter off while in flight?
semp
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wait for the next patch, or try the beta version!
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Any changes in the way you had graphics settings configured prior to the latest version update should be returned to their previous settings. Doing this should result in the same performance you had prior to the latest updates.
Nope. Still get lots of stutters and lower FPS with everything new turned off and the settings identical to what I had before the new version.
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The original post has a quite weak rig listed... However I would refrain from updating much for 2 reasons:
1) This immediate problem is most likely an HTC bug they're fixing, from recent discussions I've seen
2) Any updates to that system would be stop-gap in nature. You can only add so much ram, but the ram is a slower type with limited bus speeds, etc. You can go the budget route of "just to tide me by" upgrades but from my own personal experience this is more costly and aggravating in the long run. You get the lowest upgrade possible every time? Well that means you have to keep doing it constantly. I saved up a year ago and did a full system upgrade and it's still going strong a year later. If I'd kept tacking on an extra bit here or there to my older system it wouldn't be nearly as good as my current one.
A computer relies on the inter-relation of many parts. The RAM relies on the motherboard, which can accomodate different CPU speeds, which need better power supply, which also dictates what video card you can install, etc... It's better to just save up and get a new system all at once if your current one is so dated.
So, outside of the "Wait for it to get fixed" part my ONLY suggestion for immediate upgrade would be: Ditch Vista. It's utter crap. If you get Win 7 (make sure you get x64 bit) you will see improved overall performance, and then when you upgrade can move that installation over to the new system. Win7 isn't cheap (stupid Bill Gates...) but Vista is so rubbish that 2GB ram is the bare minimum for the average install. Idle at the desktop most copies I've seen use 1GB just to do nothing. Even paring that down gets it to the 750MB range. It's crazy.
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I agree with Krusty here in his second point. I tried to keep up with AH by souping up my P4 machine that in the end would have been the envy of the computing world--in 2006. Problem was--it was 2011. Five years is an eternity with computers! I probably spent a few hundred bucks buying an unlocked 3.4 ghz CPU that I overclocked, the best memory that would fit on the board and the best AGP video card available. At the end of the day it was throwing money away. I just couldn't keep up. Things change and in the computing world that's generally faster than you can keep up with by doing little tweaks. Total do-overs are part of the process.
I ended up building my own PC. The first time I'd done that and I gotta tell ya--I'll never buy a pre-built PC again. It's tons cheaper and you have total control over not only the hardware but also the software. Google is your friend here. Edjucate thyself on the subject. Don't be scared. It's a lot easier to do than you think. I was shocked how easy it was. I now have a machine that should last me a while as I'm a bit ahead of the curve, which was the idea. I don't play anything but AH but if I wanted to I have the horsepower for it now.
Keep in mind that when I said it was way cheaper it was just that. Way cheaper doesn't equal free. Good quality components cost. Do your homework and determine what you need to do what you're doing.
Lots of help here.
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The real trick is once you decide what you want you have to figure out and predict the future tendencies... So for example you get a good system but you want to be able to upgrade a year down the road to extend the life of the system with a new CPU...
Well what if you got a CPU with a socket type and a motherboard that suddenly goes out of style and is replaced by a new one, and all new chips are on the new socket? Well, now you have a major upgrade of both CPU and mobo, and maybe RAM or other components for the new mobo! So try to find a socket type that will be around a while. I went with LGA 1366 and got burned. While I have upgrade paths, the new i7 2600 chips are not one of them! They bypassed me entirely in lieu of another socket size, and not I'm in a dead end.
I won't feel the pinch for a while, but when that time comes I can't just swap out the CPU. It'll be a larger upgrade.
That's the real problem, choosing the right parts.
Bad choices in the past I've encountered:
RDRAM
Slot III Pentiums
Settling for a LGA 775 with only 800MHz FSB
Going with LGA1366 right before they drop that socket entirely.
So, forums like this or others with technical-minded folks really helps get a feel for some of the trends and patterns you will want to look at. Longevity and future upgradability should be key to keeping long-term price down.
Just a few more thoughts to help you along!
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A couple of thoughts concerning a new build: I wouldn't worry much for possible upgrade disability. After all, there's really not much that can be done to an outdated rig. Adding RAM up to the sweet spot will help under certain circumstances, so does changing the GPU. Changing CPU, bus speed, different kind of HDD and such mostly shows up in test programs but not in everyday life. Of course that depends on what you want to do with your rig. Some games are processor hungry, some need the fastest video card available. Every year someone releases a game that outdates every computer available. I did my last major upgrade six (!) years ago and I still can play AH with everything maxxed except shadows. At that time I spent about € 600 for a GA-EP35-D83, Intel E6750, Radeon HD3870, 4 gigs of DDR2 RAM and a Cooler Master case with PSU.
IMO getting the second best combination money can buy is the most cost effective way. There's a spot where the price of computer parts jumps more than performance. The parts just below that spot will give the best bang for the buck in the long run.