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Title: Video Card Disaster
Post by: ebfd11 on March 05, 2012, 12:32:44 AM
Well I bought 2 EVGA 580 watercooled video cards and today I had the time to get them installed today. I used new tubing and new connectors on my whole setup. It looked sweet as all can be. and the first time I fire it up I get a great picture on my monitors. After about 2 hours they started heating up to the point that I got Black screens. Feeling them they were too hot to touch. I threw a fan in front of my rig, to cool them down.

After removing them I installed my old cards and boom I have my comp back. I looked the new ones over an they were discolored and they had a burnt smell to them. I spent aprox 3 hours on the phone with EVGA support, I couldn't believe they were open on Sunday, they are shipping me 2 new ones. Granted I downgraded but I am getting a refund of the difference and 2 new EVGA super clocked GTX 570's. AS soon as they get here and installed i will post pics.

LawnDart
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 05, 2012, 02:12:52 AM
Well I bought 2 EVGA 580 watercooled video cards and today I had the time to get them installed today. I used new tubing and new connectors on my whole setup. It looked sweet as all can be. and the first time I fire it up I get a great picture on my monitors. After about 2 hours they started heating up to the point that I got Black screens. Feeling them they were too hot to touch. I threw a fan in front of my rig, to cool them down.

After removing them I installed my old cards and boom I have my comp back. I looked the new ones over an they were discolored and they had a burnt smell to them. I spent aprox 3 hours on the phone with EVGA support, I couldn't believe they were open on Sunday, they are shipping me 2 new ones. Granted I downgraded but I am getting a refund of the difference and 2 new EVGA super clocked GTX 570's. AS soon as they get here and installed i will post pics.

LawnDart

Next time check water flow before starting.
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: ebfd11 on March 05, 2012, 07:29:33 AM
Ripley,

 Waterflow was good but apparently one did have a slight blockage, I think, which caused them to overheat. They said for me to ship them back and they would look at them. I know it wasn't anything I did on my end. Another thing they said is I might have gotten one that didn't have enough thermal paste when it was assembled. I won'tl know untilled they email me back the results of disassembling them.

I have to give cusps to EVGA tech support and the RMA peocess. I just hope the new ones that they send me are not defective,LOL.

LAWNDART
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 05, 2012, 07:35:08 AM
Ripley,

 Waterflow was good but apparently one did have a slight blockage, I think, which caused them to overheat. They said for me to ship them back and they would look at them. I know it wasn't anything I did on my end. Another thing they said is I might have gotten one that didn't have enough thermal paste when it was assembled. I won'tl know untilled they email me back the results of disassembling them.

I have to give cusps to EVGA tech support and the RMA peocess. I just hope the new ones that they send me are not defective,LOL.

LAWNDART

If the water was circulating then there's little else chances except an intallation defect at the factory.
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: guncrasher on March 05, 2012, 10:36:29 AM
what kind of pron were you watching that they overheated?  never mind I dont want to know, on second thought pm just in case I get curious later :).


semp
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: Krusty on March 05, 2012, 10:59:25 AM
Were you cooling the radiators off with airflow? Or was it just recirculating boiling water?
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 05, 2012, 11:50:01 AM
Were you cooling the radiators off with airflow? Or was it just recirculating boiling water?

Even if the water is boiling it won't fry the graphics cards. Nvidia chips are rated for 90-100c use. If the water was circulating there's no way on earth it would get to boiling temperature in 2 hours.

Of course if the watercooling system consists of a pump, 1 meter of tube and circulate through cards... :)
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: Chalenge on March 05, 2012, 12:51:25 PM
No cooling reservoir? Who would do that?  :bhead
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: MaSonZ on March 05, 2012, 02:28:02 PM
No cooling reservoir? Who would do that?  :bhead
and he Said o nthe Pigs forum thatr he is putting this setup in:

http://www.xoxide.com/subl4poblred.html#customer-reviews
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: ebfd11 on March 05, 2012, 04:54:10 PM
I did have my resivoir connected and I saw water flowing, but I guess there was a blockage some where after about 2 hours of playing the game they got hot to the point of shutting down. I may have over tightened one connection to the point it was restricting the flow of water bit I don't think it was enough to burn them out.

Like I said before EVGA RMA and customer service is awesome. They have gained a longtime customer on this deal.

And Semaphore it was the game not the other stuff that set it off.

Lawndart
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: Dragon on March 05, 2012, 06:08:12 PM
That's a bummer Lawndart.  So did you get the 70 because of a known issue with the 80's?  Water cooled 70's? 

Just wondering....



Kudo's to the support  :aok
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: MaSonZ on March 05, 2012, 08:00:30 PM
and to think I almost bought a EVGA 560, but went with a 6850 instead because of a fellow student and a tech teacher who were both Radeon freaks....  :bhead
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: ebfd11 on March 05, 2012, 08:41:41 PM
Masonz

This was a total fluke if you ask me. The reason why I decided to go with the 570 is the speed is comparibale with the 580 but and approximately 350 cheaper on each card. Now I am not saying the cards are the same bit they are fairly close.

Lawndart
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: MaSonZ on March 05, 2012, 08:56:46 PM
bragging rights is why you went with the dual hydro cooled 580's, right?  :rock :devil
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: ebfd11 on March 05, 2012, 09:34:34 PM
LOL if I reply the way I want to I will get a time out from the BBS, so all I will say is your an,............. but you can say that. LOL

Lawndart
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: guncrasher on March 05, 2012, 09:41:59 PM
bragging rights is why you went with the dual hydro cooled 580's, right?  :rock :devil
you know he wants to have a better puter than me.



semp
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: cattb on March 06, 2012, 05:10:59 PM
and to think I almost bought a EVGA 560, but went with a 6850 instead because of a fellow student and a tech teacher who were both Radeon freaks....  :bhead
a 460 and 6850 go head to head, a 560 is just a lil better rebranded 460.
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: MaSonZ on March 06, 2012, 08:31:46 PM
a 460 and 6850 go head to head, a 560 is just a lil better rebranded 460.
really? did not know this.
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: olds442 on March 07, 2012, 03:46:06 PM
really? did not know this.
yup just like the 5850 and 6850 are about the same. the first number is the GENERATION the next 3 (on radeon cards) are how powerful it is

meaning u wont see a boost from going from a 5850 to a 6400 but a decress
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: MaSonZ on March 07, 2012, 05:06:14 PM
yup just like the 5850 and 6850 are about the same. the first number is the GENERATION the next 3 (on radeon cards) are how powerful it is

meaning u wont see a boost from going from a 5850 to a 6400 but a decress
knew this, have enlightened some other kids about this...and lost them  :rofl
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: BERN1 on March 07, 2012, 08:11:33 PM
can I have some of you old stuff??? preferbly the unburnt ones??
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: Rob52240 on March 09, 2012, 11:44:17 AM
I really wish these electronics manufacturers would stop screwing us customers over and start putting enough smoke in their products to fail more than just once.
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: ebfd11 on March 09, 2012, 12:11:53 PM
Well I received the new cards Wed and installed them, I have been running them through some stress tests to see what they can handle.

Dual Evga 570

Sliders maxed out..
All boxes checked

Enabled weapon effects and enabled Vehicle effects

The only one I did have problems with are the self shadows, I can only go to 4096 on smooth shadow.

(http://205.196.120.49/fa3e3fe18e9d03e909d7e34f72fd6579d1f1b0bafe2a0773507d379bc9d51a726g.jpg)

All on triple 24 acer monitors.

Thanks to EVGA for their outstanding customer service.

I know its only 59 fps.. I wish it were 60.

Lawndart
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: MaSonZ on March 09, 2012, 03:20:52 PM
everything maxxed, all the eye candy on, on three 24" moniters and you wish you had 1FPS more? your nit picking now  :rock
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: guncrasher on March 10, 2012, 12:56:01 AM
everything maxxed, all the eye candy on, on three 24" moniters and you wish you had 1FPS more? your nit picking now  :rock

he sucks, mine can do 60 with all 3 monitors going uphill with no shoes in the winter  :rofl.


semp
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: SilverZ06 on March 14, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
My card does the same thing, only shows 59fps most of the time. once in a great while it will jump to 60fps for a split second. You should still be able to run full shadows. I'm guessing you get studders in huge furballs over bases also.
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: Bruv119 on March 14, 2012, 12:50:06 PM
does this 60 fps still hold in the middle of a 20 man furball over a burning base,  with CV ack going off?
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: Chalenge on March 14, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
I know its only 59 fps.. I wish it were 60.

Shortfall on W7s part. Even 595s in SLI only give 59 fps.
Title: Re: Video Card Disaster
Post by: guncrasher on March 14, 2012, 06:38:40 PM
does this 60 fps still hold in the middle of a 20 man furball over a burning base,  with CV ack going off?

It held up the other day in the middle of at least 60 planes with cv ack all over the place and field ack going off.  well a couple of times it went way down to 55  but I blame the gv's for that.  1/2 the base was destroyed and the cv was on fire.  I dont know perhaps i am just lucky.  or maybe thru trail and error found a good way to oc both pc and vc to match each other.  or who knows perhaps i got the cpu from the last terminator.

funny thing is that fps depends more on which map we have.  the other day we had a furball of 4 or 5 players and my fps hit a low of 48.  i blame the mountains around us eating up all of it.  we were down in a valley with nothing but mountains around us.  we all eventually crashed as we ran out of e 1 after the other  :D.


semp