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Title: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Penguin on March 07, 2012, 12:04:07 AM
Ever since I said I was a kid on this BBS, people have accused me of being a shade account or an older person claiming to be young.  Therefore I pose the question, why do people think this?  What makes me different from F22RaptorDude?  He too claims to be young, yet no-one doubts him.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: ink on March 07, 2012, 12:05:03 AM
trust me no one thinks you are old :aok
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: coombz on March 07, 2012, 12:06:28 AM
Because you don't write like an imbecile who dropped out of high school, as most of your detractors do.

They're just trying to make themselves feel better because a teenager can argue intelligently with them, whereas they are inevitably reduced to 'JUST SHUP UP PENGUIN' etc.

;)
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: kilo2 on March 07, 2012, 12:13:19 AM
Because you don't write like an imbecile who dropped out of high school, as most of your detractors do.

They're just trying to make themselves feel better because a teenager can argue intelligently with them, whereas they are inevitably reduced to 'JUST SHUP UP PENGUIN' etc.

;)

Penguin can be annoying.

Although I doubt he is an adult as some of his views are very naive, as you would expect a high school student to have.




Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: coombz on March 07, 2012, 12:17:11 AM
Penguin can be annoying.

Although I doubt he is an adult as some of his views are very naive, as you would expect a high school student to have.

I agree, although this fits under the category of why he is quite evidently young, rather than why do people think he is old...
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: kilo2 on March 07, 2012, 12:18:54 AM
I agree, although this fits under the category of why he is quite evidently young, rather than why do people think he is old...

Yes I thought it was obvious but some people like you said can't accept it.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: oakranger on March 07, 2012, 12:29:59 AM
Ever since I said I was a kid on this BBS, people have accused me of being a shade account or an older person claiming to be young.  Therefore I pose the question, why do people think this?  What makes me different from F22RaptorDude?  He too claims to be young, yet no-one doubts him.

-Penguin

Penguin, you are paranoid.  Just be your self and mind what others say. 
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: MachFly on March 07, 2012, 12:58:54 AM
Always thought you were 14.  :)
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: clerick on March 07, 2012, 01:19:06 AM
Why do you care? Oh, must be post count quota time.

Have no fear, I have never mistaken you for a mature adult.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: 4Prop on March 07, 2012, 01:28:39 AM
15 is the new 50
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Tupac on March 07, 2012, 02:16:45 AM
Who are you and what did you do with my bologna sandwich?
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: bagrat on March 07, 2012, 08:25:39 AM
Who are you and what did you do with my bologna sandwich?

I just had a dream that I had 3 very plane sandwiches, but I combined what was in them together to make one "alright" sandwich and disposed of the extra bread properly.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Shuffler on March 07, 2012, 08:56:28 AM
From your post I have always pegged you around 12 or 13.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: dedalos on March 07, 2012, 09:30:38 AM
trust me no one thinks you are old :aok

 :lol
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: VonMessa on March 07, 2012, 09:31:48 AM
You can omit me from any list of folks that think you are old and/or mature.

You are no doubt, a person of intelligence.  Your ability to read, comprehend and regurgitate what you read in books and on the interwebz is remarkable, almost as remarkable as the level of your naivety and lack of real-world experience.

That is what is going to round you out.

I'm sure that you could write me a 3 page dissertation on shaving in the morning, including the pros and cons of doing it, the best time to do it complete with sources of reference.  Invariably, your report would lack the voice of experience and would lose any credence with anyone that has read it the moment  they lay eyes on you as it is obvious that you have never picked up a razor in your life.

You can tell us all about war and how horrible it is, yet you have never picked a weapon and stood a post.  Until that time, you are unqualified to discuss the horrors of war.

Until you have walked the slums of Boston (or Philly if you choose to come down here) and handed out blankets to the less fortunate when it is so cold outside that you, yourself are freezing in your long johns and brand new North Face jacket that mommy and daddy bought for you, you know nothing about what less-fortunate means.

Nothing of which you claim to to be so knowledgeable about is worth a hill of beans.  You claim to have knowledge of the difference between the homeless, bums, drug addicts and those that are lazy yet I am willing to bet that you have never walked anyplace close to where these people "live" unless it was on a field trip or you were chaperoned with parents, let alone have had one-on-one face time with any of them.

Mistake you for old?  Hardly.

It is quite obvious how young you are by the rose-tinted, sunshine and puppies perspective that you put everything into that gives it away.

Until you have lived a little yourself and have tried to put your knowledge to use, in a practical, real-life scenario, you really do not have any clue about that which you speak of.

Don't believe everything you read in textbooks as gospel.  Remember, it was not too long ago that textbooks still claimed that the Earth was the center of the universe...
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: matt on March 07, 2012, 09:44:26 AM
You can omit me from any list of folks that think you are old and/or mature.

You are no doubt, a person of intelligence.  Your ability to read, comprehend and regurgitate what you read in books and on the interwebz is remarkable, almost as remarkable as the level of your naivety and lack of real-world experience.

That is what is going to round you out.

I'm sure that you could write me a 3 page dissertation on shaving in the morning, including the pros and cons of doing it, the best time to do it complete with sources of reference.  Invariably, your report would lack the voice of experience and would lose any credence with anyone that has read it the moment  they lay eyes on you as it is obvious that you have never picked up a razor in your life.

You can tell us all about war and how horrible it is, yet you have never picked a weapon and stood a post.  Until that time, you are unqualified to discuss the horrors of war.

Until you have walked the slums of Boston (or Philly if you choose to come down here) and handed out blankets to the less fortunate when it is so cold outside that you, yourself are freezing in your long johns and brand new North Face jacket that mommy and daddy bought for you, you know nothing about what less-fortunate means.

Nothing of which you claim to to be so knowledgeable about is worth a hill of beans.  You claim to have knowledge of the difference between the homeless, bums, drug addicts and those that are lazy yet I am willing to bet that you have never walked anyplace close to where these people "live" unless it was on a field trip or you were chaperoned with parents, let alone have had one-on-one face time with any of them.

Mistake you for old?  Hardly.

It is quite obvious how young you are by the rose-tinted, sunshine and puppies perspective that you put everything into that gives it away.

Until you have lived a little yourself and have tried to put your knowledge to use, in a practical, real-life scenario, you really do not have any clue about that which you speak of.

Don't believe everything you read in textbooks as gospel.  Remember, it was not too long ago that textbooks still claimed that the Earth was the center of the universe...
:aok
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Tom5572 on March 07, 2012, 09:59:16 AM
The world is not the center?!?!?
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: mthrockmor on March 07, 2012, 10:07:32 AM
I mostly think you are younger. You have a pretty good, yet slightly dangerous grasp of economics. In that realm you jump from eager beaver high school right into grad level ideas, excusing centralized planning as how it should be done. I enjoy the banter and ideas, being challenged, etc. Good stuff though as you get old, presuming you join the real world as opposed to academia, you will discover these centralized ideas get in your way, not move them to higher ground. Essentially, older age and doses of reality cure most of those ills.

Boo
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Dragon on March 07, 2012, 10:35:50 AM
You can omit me from any list of folks that think you are old and/or mature.

You are no doubt, a person of intelligence.  Your ability to read, comprehend and regurgitate what you read in books and on the interwebz is remarkable, almost as remarkable as the level of your naivety and lack of real-world experience.

That is what is going to round you out.

I'm sure that you could write me a 3 page dissertation on shaving in the morning, including the pros and cons of doing it, the best time to do it complete with sources of reference.  Invariably, your report would lack the voice of experience and would lose any credence with anyone that has read it the moment  they lay eyes on you as it is obvious that you have never picked up a razor in your life.

You can tell us all about war and how horrible it is, yet you have never picked a weapon and stood a post.  Until that time, you are unqualified to discuss the horrors of war.

Until you have walked the slums of Boston (or Philly if you choose to come down here) and handed out blankets to the less fortunate when it is so cold outside that you, yourself are freezing in your long johns and brand new North Face jacket that mommy and daddy bought for you, you know nothing about what less-fortunate means.

Nothing of which you claim to to be so knowledgeable about is worth a hill of beans.  You claim to have knowledge of the difference between the homeless, bums, drug addicts and those that are lazy yet I am willing to bet that you have never walked anyplace close to where these people "live" unless it was on a field trip or you were chaperoned with parents, let alone have had one-on-one face time with any of them.

Mistake you for old?  Hardly.

It is quite obvious how young you are by the rose-tinted, sunshine and puppies perspective that you put everything into that gives it away.

Until you have lived a little yourself and have tried to put your knowledge to use, in a practical, real-life scenario, you really do not have any clue about that which you speak of.

Don't believe everything you read in textbooks as gospel.  Remember, it was not too long ago that textbooks still claimed that the Earth was the center of the universe...

 :aok  +1
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: SmokinLoon on March 07, 2012, 11:03:43 AM
Ever since I said I was a kid on this BBS, people have accused me of being a shade account or an older person claiming to be young.  Therefore I pose the question, why do people think this?  What makes me different from F22RaptorDude?  He too claims to be young, yet no-one doubts him.

-Penguin

You have a good understanding of word usage, better than many adults.  However, you posses a trait that if quite common in the less experienced whipper-snappers: you speak faster than you think.   ;)   [many adults have this issue as well, so don't fret it]   :D
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Reaper90 on March 07, 2012, 11:06:28 AM
You can omit me from any list of folks that think you are old and/or mature.

You are no doubt, a person of intelligence.  Your ability to read, comprehend and regurgitate what you read in books and on the interwebz is remarkable, almost as remarkable as the level of your naivety and lack of real-world experience.

That is what is going to round you out.

I'm sure that you could write me a 3 page dissertation on shaving in the morning, including the pros and cons of doing it, the best time to do it complete with sources of reference.  Invariably, your report would lack the voice of experience and would lose any credence with anyone that has read it the moment  they lay eyes on you as it is obvious that you have never picked up a razor in your life.

You can tell us all about war and how horrible it is, yet you have never picked a weapon and stood a post.  Until that time, you are unqualified to discuss the horrors of war.

Until you have walked the slums of Boston (or Philly if you choose to come down here) and handed out blankets to the less fortunate when it is so cold outside that you, yourself are freezing in your long johns and brand new North Face jacket that mommy and daddy bought for you, you know nothing about what less-fortunate means.

Nothing of which you claim to to be so knowledgeable about is worth a hill of beans.  You claim to have knowledge of the difference between the homeless, bums, drug addicts and those that are lazy yet I am willing to bet that you have never walked anyplace close to where these people "live" unless it was on a field trip or you were chaperoned with parents, let alone have had one-on-one face time with any of them.

Mistake you for old?  Hardly.

It is quite obvious how young you are by the rose-tinted, sunshine and puppies perspective that you put everything into that gives it away.

Until you have lived a little yourself and have tried to put your knowledge to use, in a practical, real-life scenario, you really do not have any clue about that which you speak of.

Don't believe everything you read in textbooks as gospel.  Remember, it was not too long ago that textbooks still claimed that the Earth was the center of the universe...

 :aok + Eleventybillion
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Arlo on March 07, 2012, 11:10:20 AM
Care I do not, young Jedi. Facebook is that-a-way ....  :ahand
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Maverick on March 07, 2012, 11:15:53 AM
Quite a few young folks have the misconception that familiarity with a concept equals understanding of it. It is not the case. You often "speak" as if you were an authority on a subject when you have an inkling about the concept rather than a true comprehension. Respect has to be earned, same as experience. Garnering information vicariously does not equal experience or comprehension much less the position about which to speak of the subject. Some things have to be experienced in order to really understand the concepts and have a basis for exchange of information. You might think you know enough to speak about it when in reality you just know enough to ask some questions to those who have been there and have the perspective you lack.

A good example is combat. You can read all you want about it from every source. You will have gained some information but still lack knowledge of it. It is similar to trying to tell a person blind from birth the difference between red and orange. You can talk light wavelengths until you are blue in the face but the fact is you cannot pass on the real experience unless you can see it for yourself. Surgeons can read about the actual operation day and night but until they have had actual hands on practice at performing the process they are hardly qualified to perform open heart surgery on their own.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Tordon22 on March 07, 2012, 11:29:22 AM
Von messa with the sledgehammer.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Puma44 on March 07, 2012, 12:27:35 PM
Quite a few young folks have the misconception that familiarity with a concept equals understanding of it. It is not the case. You often "speak" as if you were an authority on a subject when you have an inkling about the concept rather than a true comprehension. Respect has to be earned, same as experience. Garnering information vicariously does not equal experience or comprehension much less the position about which to speak of the subject. Some things have to be experienced in order to really understand the concepts and have a basis for exchange of information. You might think you know enough to speak about it when in reality you just know enough to ask some questions to those who have been there and have the perspective you lack.

A good example is combat. You can read all you want about it from every source. You will have gained some information but still lack knowledge of it. It is similar to trying to tell a person blind from birth the difference between red and orange. You can talk light wavelengths until you are blue in the face but the fact is you cannot pass on the real experience unless you can see it for yourself. Surgeons can read about the actual operation day and night but until they have had actual hands on practice at performing the process they are hardly qualified to perform open heart surgery on their own.

That nails it exactly!  Well said.  The ability to read, google, wiki, etc, and write doesn't make anyone an expert on anything.  Talking the talk never equates to walking the walk.   :aok
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2012, 12:28:30 PM
You can omit me from any list of folks that think you are old and/or mature.

You are no doubt, a person of intelligence.  Your ability to read, comprehend and regurgitate what you read in books and on the interwebz is remarkable, almost as remarkable as the level of your naivety and lack of real-world experience.

That is what is going to round you out.

I'm sure that you could write me a 3 page dissertation on shaving in the morning, including the pros and cons of doing it, the best time to do it complete with sources of reference.  Invariably, your report would lack the voice of experience and would lose any credence with anyone that has read it the moment  they lay eyes on you as it is obvious that you have never picked up a razor in your life.

You can tell us all about war and how horrible it is, yet you have never picked a weapon and stood a post.  Until that time, you are unqualified to discuss the horrors of war.

Until you have walked the slums of Boston (or Philly if you choose to come down here) and handed out blankets to the less fortunate when it is so cold outside that you, yourself are freezing in your long johns and brand new North Face jacket that mommy and daddy bought for you, you know nothing about what less-fortunate means.

Nothing of which you claim to to be so knowledgeable about is worth a hill of beans.  You claim to have knowledge of the difference between the homeless, bums, drug addicts and those that are lazy yet I am willing to bet that you have never walked anyplace close to where these people "live" unless it was on a field trip or you were chaperoned with parents, let alone have had one-on-one face time with any of them.

Mistake you for old?  Hardly.

It is quite obvious how young you are by the rose-tinted, sunshine and puppies perspective that you put everything into that gives it away.

Until you have lived a little yourself and have tried to put your knowledge to use, in a practical, real-life scenario, you really do not have any clue about that which you speak of.

Don't believe everything you read in textbooks as gospel.  Remember, it was not too long ago that textbooks still claimed that the Earth was the center of the universe...

Oh snap Penguin, you gonna take that?

Penguin, I hereby request a treatise on the validity of arguing a stance in which you have no real life experience on.  I would like the meat of the treatise to focus on quantifying the validity of an argument based upon facts/research with no personal experience, compared to an argument based upon experience/anecdotal evidence but no book facts.  Which is of more significance?  Due next week please.   :old:
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Rob52240 on March 07, 2012, 12:36:56 PM
Why do you care in the first place?

Whenever I fly as a guest one some other squad's channel they usually ask if I'm dallas with a new name.
Well it's no big deal.
This is the internet after all.
<S> you and your age whatever it may be.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: 68ZooM on March 07, 2012, 12:40:32 PM
Big difference's from being book smart and life/street smart. VonMessa was spot on on his assessment of you.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: B-17 on March 07, 2012, 05:33:03 PM
:rofl

:salute Penguin, you never fail to convince me of your age. We share many of the same speculations and thoughts. I just don't share mine. :D

Anyone wanna guess as to how old I am?
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Banshee7 on March 07, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
:rofl

:salute Penguin, you never fail to convince me of your age. We share many of the same speculations and thoughts. I just don't share mine. :D

Anyone wanna guess as to how old I am?

15.

What did I win?
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: B-17 on March 07, 2012, 06:02:41 PM
15.

What did I win?

:rofl Good one :D

You win an airplane!!



















:airplane:
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Banshee7 on March 07, 2012, 06:03:43 PM
Sweet  :airplane:
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Penguin on March 07, 2012, 06:48:45 PM
@The Community: Hm, I'm glad to see that I was wrong. :rock  It's likely I forgot how much time passed between the readings of the posts that claimed that I was old, so what looked like a rash of them was really just one every so often.  I really should have titled the thread "Why does Masherbrum think I'm Old?" seeing as he's the one who says that I'm some old guy the most.

Vonmessa: I hope to enter into academia post haste!  I don't regard the textbooks as gospel at all, and even my history teacher points out the weird or wrong stuff (bias, slip-ups).  Instead, I see textbooks as a very close approximation (due to typos, etc.,) of the sum total of human knowledge of a given subject at a given depth, scope, and time.  Oddly enough, I want to continue studying science (specifically physics) if I can, for a number of reasons, one of which being avoiding becoming outdated.  My tone is a product of writing essays for school -phrases like "I think" or "I believe" or "Maybe" are not allowed- one either goes for a point (without sensationalizing) or remains silent.  That tone is required for everything and gets even more formal and strong with grade and class level (Honors, AP).  I might add a line to my sig saying that I don't write this way to sound arrogant, but rather not to sound weasely (look 'weasel word' up on Wikipedia to find out more, it's the best approximation that I can provide).  Any ideas on something else that I can do with it?  Just to nitpick, North Face jackets are awful- Columbia all the way! :D  I will be doing some community service this summer- I don't know what yet.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: F22RaptorDude on March 07, 2012, 06:49:06 PM
trust me no one thinks you are old :aok
:rofl
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: ink on March 07, 2012, 09:44:44 PM
some of the smartest people I have met, were the dumbest.

having "book" knowledge does not make one intelligent, the ability to look inside of oneself and see who you are with out bias is true intelligence.

sadly most people are as ignorant as they can be.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Penguin on March 07, 2012, 10:08:24 PM
What a coincidence, I've been trying to reason out what I am for the past week or so.  I've come to the conclusion that there is no Aristotelian soul because the brain creates the mind, and that since the universe is a closed system free will doesn't exist, either.  However, we don't know what will happen next, so what appears as random chance is in fact a lack of information.  Thus, I've also concluded that thoughts are just atoms moving around, but that certain ideas (math) transcend reality because they form their own and we just discover them.  Therefore, morality is both relative (killing someone is bad, but you're just average if everyone you know is a murderer) and subjective (the old joke that 9 out of 10 people enjoy a dog-pile).  This can really put a downer on you, but then you realize that emotions fall into the same category.  They are just hormones coursing around.

Thus, I am a materialist, hard determinist, moral relativist, and semi-nihilist.  That took a while to figure out, but man was it worth it.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: titanic3 on March 07, 2012, 10:22:02 PM
You over think stuff WAY too much. Someone ask me the meaning of life, my answer would be "Enjoy it while it lasts." you would probably write a 700 page novel. Don't take this the wrong way, I haven't met you so I wouldn't know for sure, but from what I can tell from your posts, you're one of those people who blabs on and on and on.

KISS.

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

No need to overcomplicate or overthink stuff when you don't have to.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: sluggish on March 07, 2012, 10:32:47 PM
Because you're a middle-aged fat British man?
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: phatzo on March 07, 2012, 10:33:37 PM
Because you're a middle-aged fat British man?
lol, Beets reckons it's not him but you never know.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: vorticon on March 07, 2012, 10:59:46 PM
Thus, I am a materialist, hard determinist, moral relativist, and semi-nihilist.  That took a while to figure out, but man was it worth it.

-Penguin



that's cool. i am...definitely going to be able to pay my bills once i get paid tomorrow. guess which one of us is happier :p
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Melvin on March 07, 2012, 11:26:07 PM
People think you are old because:

A) You won't shut up.

B) You are convinced that you are right.

C) You remind them of themselves... last week.



Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Tom5572 on March 08, 2012, 12:01:00 AM
Penguin:

I disagree with almost every thing you post but admit your arguments are well thought out. You lack of life experience shows your age. Books give you theory, they give you an idea of understanding. I have to agree, some what, with what Vonmessa said. You may think you understand the horrors of war but without actually experiencing it, understanding is impossible. Books cannot combine the coppery smell of blood with burning flesh, or the exultaition of living with extreme guilt because you are alive. War, to me, is a bunch of oximorons nestled tighlty together. I have never fealt more alive then when closest to death. It is the ultimate test of human endurance. This is not an attempt to glorify war, it is what it is. Go to the VFW, watch how the vetrans talk to each other. Those who know war will tell more to a complete stranger, with similar experiences, than they will with those they love.

I am not going to tell you not to talk about the horrors of war but you must also realize you will never understand what it is you are talking about. In some cases it is better to let people think you a fool then to say something and remove all doubt.

Tom
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Tupac on March 08, 2012, 12:06:10 AM
What a coincidence, I've been trying to reason out what I am for the past week or so.  I've come to the conclusion that there is no Aristotelian soul because the brain creates the mind, and that since the universe is a closed system free will doesn't exist, either.  However, we don't know what will happen next, so what appears as random chance is in fact a lack of information.  Thus, I've also concluded that thoughts are just atoms moving around, but that certain ideas (math) transcend reality because they form their own and we just discover them.  Therefore, morality is both relative (killing someone is bad, but you're just average if everyone you know is a murderer) and subjective (the old joke that 9 out of 10 people enjoy a dog-pile).  This can really put a downer on you, but then you realize that emotions fall into the same category.  They are just hormones coursing around.

Thus, I am a materialist, hard determinist, moral relativist, and semi-nihilist.  That took a while to figure out, but man was it worth it.

-Penguin

"Donny, these men are Nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of."

I seriously fear the day you have to drive a car and make decisions quickly.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Jayhawk on March 08, 2012, 12:08:00 AM
You can omit me from any list of folks that think you are old and/or mature.

You are no doubt, a person of intelligence.  Your ability to read, comprehend and regurgitate what you read in books and on the interwebz is remarkable, almost as remarkable as the level of your naivety and lack of real-world experience.

That is what is going to round you out.

I'm sure that you could write me a 3 page dissertation on shaving in the morning, including the pros and cons of doing it, the best time to do it complete with sources of reference.  Invariably, your report would lack the voice of experience and would lose any credence with anyone that has read it the moment  they lay eyes on you as it is obvious that you have never picked up a razor in your life.

You can tell us all about war and how horrible it is, yet you have never picked a weapon and stood a post.  Until that time, you are unqualified to discuss the horrors of war.

Until you have walked the slums of Boston (or Philly if you choose to come down here) and handed out blankets to the less fortunate when it is so cold outside that you, yourself are freezing in your long johns and brand new North Face jacket that mommy and daddy bought for you, you know nothing about what less-fortunate means.

Nothing of which you claim to to be so knowledgeable about is worth a hill of beans.  You claim to have knowledge of the difference between the homeless, bums, drug addicts and those that are lazy yet I am willing to bet that you have never walked anyplace close to where these people "live" unless it was on a field trip or you were chaperoned with parents, let alone have had one-on-one face time with any of them.

Mistake you for old?  Hardly.

It is quite obvious how young you are by the rose-tinted, sunshine and puppies perspective that you put everything into that gives it away.

Until you have lived a little yourself and have tried to put your knowledge to use, in a practical, real-life scenario, you really do not have any clue about that which you speak of.

Don't believe everything you read in textbooks as gospel.  Remember, it was not too long ago that textbooks still claimed that the Earth was the center of the universe...

 :aok
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: curry1 on March 08, 2012, 12:12:09 AM
@The Community: Hm, I'm glad to see that I was wrong. :rock  It's likely I forgot how much time passed between the readings of the posts that claimed that I was old, so what looked like a rash of them was really just one every so often.  I really should have titled the thread "Why does Masherbrum think I'm Old?" seeing as he's the one who says that I'm some old guy the most.

Vonmessa: I hope to enter into academia post haste!  I don't regard the textbooks as gospel at all, and even my history teacher points out the weird or wrong stuff (bias, slip-ups).  Instead, I see textbooks as a very close approximation (due to typos, etc.,) of the sum total of human knowledge of a given subject at a given depth, scope, and time.  Oddly enough, I want to continue studying science (specifically physics) if I can, for a number of reasons, one of which being avoiding becoming outdated.  My tone is a product of writing essays for school -phrases like "I think" or "I believe" or "Maybe" are not allowed- one either goes for a point (without sensationalizing) or remains silent.  That tone is required for everything and gets even more formal and strong with grade and class level (Honors, AP).  I might add a line to my sig saying that I don't write this way to sound arrogant, but rather not to sound weasely (look 'weasel word' up on Wikipedia to find out more, it's the best approximation that I can provide).  Any ideas on something else that I can do with it?  Just to nitpick, North Face jackets are awful- Columbia all the way! :D  I will be doing some community service this summer- I don't know what yet.

-Penguin

The point everyone is trying to make is that talking and acting smart or knowing knowledge doesn't make you a smart person.  In fact if tried to write like you would normally talk instead of writing like everyone on here is trying to give you a grade.  We aren't grading you, as much as some of us make an occasional grammar Nazi remark no one actually cares *gasp*.  Be yourself the best you can, not someone else's idea of what you should be namely an English teacher.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: B-17 on March 08, 2012, 12:18:42 AM
"Donny, these men are Nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of."

I seriously fear the day you have to drive a car and make decisions quickly.

lol
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Vudu15 on March 08, 2012, 12:23:58 AM
trust me no one thinks you are old :aok

What Ink said, we all know your not old In fact just the opposite........
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: uptown on March 08, 2012, 07:48:51 AM
You just don't get it...do ya podna. Look "podna" up in wikipedia to find out more. What ya need to do is re-read what VonMessa wrote and get a clue. What you are is a "Good Will Hunting" clone wannabe...with your 5 dollars words and crap about your ideas about moving atoms and talk about....
   "I've come to the conclusion that ... because the brain creates the mind, and that since the universe is a closed system free will doesn't exist, either.  However, we don't know what will happen next, so what appears as random chance is in fact a lack of information.  Thus, I've also concluded that thoughts are just atoms moving around, but that certain ideas (math) transcend reality because they form their own and we just discover them.  Therefore, morality is both relative (killing someone is bad, but you're just average if everyone you know is a murderer) and subjective (the old joke that 9 out of 10 people enjoy a dog-pile).  This can really put a downer on you, but then you realize that emotions fall into the same category.  They are just hormones coursing around.

Thus, I am a materialist, hard determinist, moral relativist, and semi-nihilist.  
 ..... :rolleyes: wtf is the man?! Are you for real? Can you even tie your own shoes or do you use the ones with the velcro strips? Aristotelian soul,certain ideas (math) transcend reality,academia post haste.... :rofl o yeah...you're quite the fancy lad aren't ya.   
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: clerick on March 08, 2012, 07:58:26 AM
You just don't get it...do ya podna. Look "podna" up in wikipedia to find out more. What ya need to do is re-read what VonMessa wrote and get a clue. What you are is a "Good Will Hunting" clone wannabe...with your 5 dollars words and crap about your ideas about moving atoms and talk about....
   "I've come to the conclusion that ... because the brain creates the mind, and that since the universe is a closed system free will doesn't exist, either.  However, we don't know what will happen next, so what appears as random chance is in fact a lack of information.  Thus, I've also concluded that thoughts are just atoms moving around, but that certain ideas (math) transcend reality because they form their own and we just discover them.  Therefore, morality is both relative (killing someone is bad, but you're just average if everyone you know is a murderer) and subjective (the old joke that 9 out of 10 people enjoy a dog-pile).  This can really put a downer on you, but then you realize that emotions fall into the same category.  They are just hormones coursing around.

Thus, I am a materialist, hard determinist, moral relativist, and semi-nihilist.  
 ..... :rolleyes: wtf is the man?! Are you for real? Can you even tie your own shoes or do you use the ones with the velcro strips? Aristotelian soul,certain ideas (math) transcend reality,academia post haste.... :rofl o yeah...you're quite the fancy lad aren't ya.   
:lol      gotta love the pseudo-intellectuals who spend more time trying to appear intelligent than actually becoming educated.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: grizz441 on March 08, 2012, 02:25:10 PM
Penguin = Sunbat

Sry Sunbat, but this is what you get for your betrayal.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 08, 2012, 02:44:16 PM
Because you're a middle-aged fat British man?

 :rofl priceless


ack-ack
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: greens on March 08, 2012, 02:54:15 PM
this------>
You can omit me from any list of folks that think you are old and/or mature.

You are no doubt, a person of intelligence.  Your ability to read, comprehend and regurgitate what you read in books and on the interwebz is remarkable, almost as remarkable as the level of your naivety and lack of real-world experience.

That is what is going to round you out.

I'm sure that you could write me a 3 page dissertation on shaving in the morning, including the pros and cons of doing it, the best time to do it complete with sources of reference.  Invariably, your report would lack the voice of experience and would lose any credence with anyone that has read it the moment  they lay eyes on you as it is obvious that you have never picked up a razor in your life.

You can tell us all about war and how horrible it is, yet you have never picked a weapon and stood a post.  Until that time, you are unqualified to discuss the horrors of war.

Until you have walked the slums of Boston (or Philly if you choose to come down here) and handed out blankets to the less fortunate when it is so cold outside that you, yourself are freezing in your long johns and brand new North Face jacket that mommy and daddy bought for you, you know nothing about what less-fortunate means.

Nothing of which you claim to to be so knowledgeable about is worth a hill of beans.  You claim to have knowledge of the difference between the homeless, bums, drug addicts and those that are lazy yet I am willing to bet that you have never walked anyplace close to where these people "live" unless it was on a field trip or you were chaperoned with parents, let alone have had one-on-one face time with any of them.

Mistake you for old?  Hardly.

It is quite obvious how young you are by the rose-tinted, sunshine and puppies perspective that you put everything into that gives it away.

Until you have lived a little yourself and have tried to put your knowledge to use, in a practical, real-life scenario, you really do not have any clue about that which you speak of.

Don't believe everything you read in textbooks as gospel.  Remember, it was not too long ago that textbooks still claimed that the Earth was the center of the universe...
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Gman on March 08, 2012, 03:06:00 PM
Quote
You can omit me from any list of folks that think you are old and/or mature.

You are no doubt, a person of intelligence.  Your ability to read, comprehend and regurgitate what you read in books and on the interwebz is remarkable, almost as remarkable as the level of your naivety and lack of real-world experience.

That is what is going to round you out.

I'm sure that you could write me a 3 page dissertation on shaving in the morning, including the pros and cons of doing it, the best time to do it complete with sources of reference.  Invariably, your report would lack the voice of experience and would lose any credence with anyone that has read it the moment  they lay eyes on you as it is obvious that you have never picked up a razor in your life.

You can tell us all about war and how horrible it is, yet you have never picked a weapon and stood a post.  Until that time, you are unqualified to discuss the horrors of war.

Until you have walked the slums of Boston (or Philly if you choose to come down here) and handed out blankets to the less fortunate when it is so cold outside that you, yourself are freezing in your long johns and brand new North Face jacket that mommy and daddy bought for you, you know nothing about what less-fortunate means.

Nothing of which you claim to to be so knowledgeable about is worth a hill of beans.  You claim to have knowledge of the difference between the homeless, bums, drug addicts and those that are lazy yet I am willing to bet that you have never walked anyplace close to where these people "live" unless it was on a field trip or you were chaperoned with parents, let alone have had one-on-one face time with any of them.

Mistake you for old?  Hardly.

It is quite obvious how young you are by the rose-tinted, sunshine and puppies perspective that you put everything into that gives it away.

Until you have lived a little yourself and have tried to put your knowledge to use, in a practical, real-life scenario, you really do not have any clue about that which you speak of.

Don't believe everything you read in textbooks as gospel.  Remember, it was not too long ago that textbooks still claimed that the Earth was the center of the universe...


This reminds me of the scene in Goodwill Hunting where Robin Williams has "the talk" with MATT DAMON (Team American rendition) on the bench in the park.  Oh ya, that and the fact that it's right on target.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: FLOTSOM on March 08, 2012, 03:40:54 PM
Penguin = Sunbat

Sry Sunbat, but this is what you get for your betrayal.

i was thinking he was more of a junior batty in training...........
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Penguin on March 08, 2012, 04:51:07 PM
What did sunbat sound like?

-Penguin
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: Tordon22 on March 08, 2012, 05:01:27 PM
What did sunbat sound like?

You've got a lot to learn.
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: FLOTSOM on March 08, 2012, 05:59:48 PM
What did sunbat sound like?

-Penguin

alot like you......only smarter......more worldly.........probably had sex once or twice with another awake human being in the same room......and a deeper timber in his voice, kinda like a thing or two has dropped already.....




















hahahaha just playing pen  :neener: :rofl :neener:
Title: Re: Why do People Think I'm Old?
Post by: B-17 on March 08, 2012, 10:40:52 PM
alot like you......only smarter......more worldly.........probably had sex once or twice with another awake human being in the same room......and a deeper timber in his voice, kinda like a thing or two has dropped already.....




















hahahaha just playing pen  :neener: :rofl :neener:

:rofl