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Title: windows key
Post by: seano on March 07, 2012, 03:11:07 AM
since we now have a pop up
"are you sure" window for alt f4. do ya think you could do the same thing for the "windows" key.

and please tell me how to "instant " down aces high so we can have a new alt f4 joke!
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: coombz on March 07, 2012, 03:29:26 AM
pretty sure you can disable the windows key in Windows control panel somewhere

I have got in the habit of using windows key + D often though, to minimize all windows. come to think of it, windows key + D could be a slightly less effective stand in for ALT+F4...tabbing out of the game tends to crash AH for a lot of people I believe, so it's nearly the same effect  :devil
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: crazyivan on March 07, 2012, 03:35:57 AM
oo eee walla,walla bing bang.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: icepac on March 07, 2012, 06:39:35 AM
I think disabling the ability to minimize AH would greatly reduce the complaints of cheating because it would greatly complicate doing so.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: LCADolby on March 07, 2012, 07:25:16 AM
I think disabling the ability to minimize AH would greatly reduce the complaints of cheating because it would greatly complicate doing so.
:headscratch: :huh
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: caldera on March 07, 2012, 07:38:04 AM
since we now have a pop up
"are you sure" window for alt f4. do ya think you could do the same thing for the "windows" key.

and please tell me how to "instant " down aces high so we can have a new alt f4 joke!


I removed that horrible windows key from my keyboard. 
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Hawk55 on March 07, 2012, 08:25:57 AM
pretty sure you can disable the windows key in Windows control panel somewhere


Here are 2 methods to disable the windows key...

Key Tweak--  http://www.tucows.com/preview/327616
or
Microsoft "Fix-It"-- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216893
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2012, 08:32:37 AM
Use a pair of pliers and extract the cancerous key(s).
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Gman on March 07, 2012, 09:12:45 AM
I used to remove them with pliers as well, but my latest keyboard, the mechanical Razer Blackwidow has a function key that disables the windows key.  I turned it on when it first came out of the box on to my desk, and haven't turned it off since.  Stupid windows key, you're history pal!
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Krusty on March 07, 2012, 09:19:47 AM
Windows key is perfectly fine, quite useful, and the few first times you hit it SHOULD teach you to look where you are typing.

You'd no more disable it than you would the ENTER key.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2012, 09:26:03 AM
Windows key is perfectly fine, quite useful, and the few first times you hit it SHOULD teach you to look where you are typing.

You'd no more disable it than you would the ENTER key.

Hmmm, interesting take.  I used to use "z" for zoom in and I never looked down at the keyboard while I was zooming in to fire.  I hit the correct key 95% of the time but when I missed it, I hit the windows key and it obviously minimized my game. 

And you are comparing the usefulness of the windows key to the enter key?  Now I know you are trolling.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Krusty on March 07, 2012, 10:19:03 AM
No, trolling would be to call somebody a troll that has simply pointed out some basic info.

Your inability to hit the Z key accurately is not to be placed as a burden on others that can. The best solution? Map zoom to your joystick. Or to another key... I find it is one of the most important aiming tools since we all fly around with such wide FOVs, that I devote a button on my stick to it, even if my stick has limited button options. Fire, Secondary fire, zoom, it was the 3rd most important button to map any time I had to set up a new stick or a re-install.

Remember all the accidental bailouts in AH history, because the ENTER key was the bail key? For those of us that typed 3 lines fast it would bail out of our planes. The solution? Not to recode how ENTER works, but rather to remap what I used as my "hit 3 times to bail" key. While others had it happen to them, it stopped happening to me. I would share this advice to them as well ("remap the bail key!").

Hopefully you will see this is simply adding perspective to the issue. There is no trolling taking place.


 :salute
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2012, 12:10:28 PM
Your inability to hit the Z key accurately is not to be placed as a burden on others that can. The best solution? Map zoom to your joystick. Or to another key... I find it is one of the most important aiming tools since we all fly around with such wide FOVs, that I devote a button on my stick to it, even if my stick has limited button options. Fire, Secondary fire, zoom, it was the 3rd most important button to map any time I had to set up a new stick or a re-install.

Thanks for the tip.  I said that I used to use the zoom key on the keyboard.  I believe I still use X for autopilot though, which I will quickly press to reset my trim if I trimmed to pull out of a compressed dive in my K4.  

In addition, never did I blame anyone for my inability to hit my keys correctly with my neanderthalistic ham fisted ways.  I simply stated that the windows key is worthless and if it gets in the way, just remove it with pliers.  What I also find incredibly amusing is that Microsoft gives not one, but two windows keys.  My windows key on the left side of my keyboard has been dislodged and discarded for over 2 years now.  I never had a reason to remove the windows key on the right side of my keyboard because I never have used hotkeys in that area.  I also have never used the windows key for any reason.

Remember all the accidental bailouts in AH history, because the ENTER key was the bail key? For those of us that typed 3 lines fast it would bail out of our planes. The solution? Not to recode how ENTER works, but rather to remap what I used as my "hit 3 times to bail" key. While others had it happen to them, it stopped happening to me. I would share this advice to them as well ("remap the bail key!").

Actually IIRC, HiTech did make some modifications to the way the enter three times bail command works to eliminate the potential for errant bails.  

Hopefully you will see this is simply adding perspective to the issue. There is no trolling taking place.

I still call troll.  You did not even address my major critique of your first post.  How is the windows key useful, and how is it even comparably useful as the enter key?  I've used my enter key on my keyboard probably over a hundred thousand times easily in my keyboards life span and have only used the windows key on accident.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Krusty on March 07, 2012, 12:12:45 PM
You apparently don't know what trolling is.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: grizz441 on March 07, 2012, 12:18:13 PM
You apparently don't know what trolling is.  :rolleyes:

How could you not be trolling?  If you weren't trolling then that would mean you actually think the windows key is of comparable importance to the enter key, which might be the most idiotic thing I have heard in 2012 thus far.  I know you are a smart guy though, so I commend you for hooking me with a delightful troll that I could not resist.  Well done well done.  :rock
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Arlo on March 07, 2012, 12:29:43 PM
The most likely derivation of the word troll can be found in the phrase "trolling for newbies", popularized in the early 1990s in the Usenet group, alt.folklore.urban (AFU).[12][13] Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution.[12][14] One of the most notorious AFU trollers, Snopes,[12] went on to create his eponymous urban folklore website.

By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun troll usually referred to an act of trolling, rather than to the author.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Krusty on March 07, 2012, 12:32:55 PM
aimed at Grizz: That is an utter troll. So you DO know what it means, and you are exercising it rather than actually discussing something. Your comments are too absurd to be honest.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: guncrasher on March 07, 2012, 01:42:56 PM
there's a slider above your keyboard on the top left corner.  move it to the right and ti disables the windows key  :banana:.  but for sure you dont want to disable the windows key as if there's any problem you will have to pull the plug to get out of aces high when it crashes  :bhead.


semp
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: bustr on March 07, 2012, 06:50:24 PM
So you guys haven't reprogrammed your windows key to make your frig dispence a cold beer when you press it?? My wife still dosen't know that only her old XP PC causes a hamster to dance around on the screen to the hamster dance song when she presses the windows key accidentaly.

You guys need to get more creative or drink more beer or both.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Arlo on March 07, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
So you guys haven't reprogrammed your windows key to make your frig dispence a cold beer when you press it?? My wife still dosen't know that only her old XP PC causes a hamster to dance around on the screen to the hamster dance song when she presses the windows key accidentaly.

You guys need to get more creative or drink more beer or both.

Lubricant dispenser key when visiting pRon sites? Tap. Tap tap. Tap tap tap tap tap tap ......
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: SunBat on March 07, 2012, 08:19:47 PM
Use a pair of pliers and extract the cancerous key(s).

Not everyone can afford a pair of pliers, Krusty, so Grizz is right. Disable it.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 07, 2012, 08:27:49 PM
For the plier impaired, here is the registry fix.  

Only try if you know what you're doing or don't give a rat's arse that you'll screw up your computer if you don't know what you're doing.

To disable the Windows logo key

•Add the following registry keys to your run-time image.
You can use regedit or create a component that adds these values.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ Keyboard Layout

Name: "Scancode Map"

Type: REG_BINARY (Binary Value)

Value Data: "00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 5B E0 00 00 5C E0 00 00 00 00"

- Or -

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer

Name: "NoWinKeys"

Data Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)

Value Data: 0 to disable restriction, or 1 to enable restriction


ack-ack
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: FLOTSOM on March 07, 2012, 08:35:59 PM
How could you not be trolling?  If you weren't trolling then that would mean you actually think the windows key is of comparable importance to the enter key, which might be the most idiotic thing I have heard in 2012 thus far.  I know you are a smart guy though, so I commend you for hooking me with a delightful troll that I could not resist.  Well done well done.  :rock

Not everyone can afford a pair of pliers, Krusty, so Grizz is right. Disable it.

when are you 2 looooooooooozzzzzzzzerrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzz coming back to the fold??????????


The most likely derivation of the word troll can be found in the phrase "trolling for newbies", popularized in the early 1990s in the Usenet group, alt.folklore.urban (AFU).[12][13] Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution.[12][14] One of the most notorious AFU trollers, Snopes,[12] went on to create his eponymous urban folklore website.

By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun troll usually referred to an act of trolling, rather than to the author.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

anyone who would take the time to find and post the definition of "troll" in a thread if by definition A TROLL!!!!!!!!

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: phatzo on March 07, 2012, 09:54:04 PM
the power key next to f-12 makes me swear sometimes.

edit: lol at you guys hijacking your own thread.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Arlo on March 07, 2012, 10:04:54 PM
when are you 2 looooooooooozzzzzzzzerrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzz coming back to the fold??????????


anyone who would take the time to find and post the definition of "troll" in a thread if by definition A TROLL!!!!!!!!

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok

Show me where in the definition it says that.  :D
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 08, 2012, 01:20:17 AM
but for sure you dont want to disable the windows key as if there's any problem you will have to pull the plug to get out of aces high when it crashes  :bhead.


semp

This is what I actually use the windows key for.




wrongway
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: GNucks on March 08, 2012, 02:37:23 AM
I just ripped my Windows key out. It's a pretty useless key.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: FLOTSOM on March 08, 2012, 07:17:59 AM
Show me where in the definition it says that.  :D

its in the fine print!

 :neener: :rofl :neener:
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Arlo on March 08, 2012, 08:49:14 AM
(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0904/trolling-trolling-troll-internet-likes-to-fight-fail-jerk-pu-demotivational-poster-1239308887.jpg)

 :huh :O :confused: :eek: :uhoh :cheers: :ahand :old: :headscratch:
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: Tordon22 on March 08, 2012, 10:56:55 AM
I blindly throw my support behind the haters of the windows key.
Title: Re: windows key
Post by: grizz441 on March 08, 2012, 02:22:34 PM
This is what I actually use the windows key for.
wrongway

I find that a swift combination of ctrl+alt+del or alt+esc always completes the aces high crash.