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Title: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Pandora on March 08, 2012, 12:00:18 PM
Hello Hitech!

Just to let you know, I've just about had enough of this game and I'm close to cancelling my subscription.  Talking to others in my Squad, I'm not the only one and I already notice players who have played for a long time are either logging in less or quitting.

The game has too many bugs.  Tanks that bounce off trees and turn over is one of my pet hates.

Planes are not modelled correctly.  Examples include the Spit 9 which even carries the wrong engine and the P51D which is so OP is it rediculous.

Field guns and wirbles for me fire 99% rubber bullets.  On occasion, even firing at a plance at 200 yards gives zero hits.

The scoring system is a mess.  It does not lead to good team/country play and leads people to mass personal score instead of playing for the game objectives.  Ground kills for fighters are shown as if they are plane kills which completely distorts the figher rankings.  Why not separate out all ground kills as an Attack score instead?

This game has way too many cheats.  I have no idea how they do it (or for that matter why), but you seem to have no way of stopping them.  I see planes warp all over the skies when they are being attacked, yet have no issues when they are attacking.  Tanks that take 15+ hits and don't die.  Tanks that can fire through tree and even hills.

To see the difference between water and land needs two settings turned on that then produce high latency.  It should surely be possible to see the ground as one colour and the sea as another without needing these Detail settings switched on.

So, what's it to be?  Are you going to make any commitments at all to fix all of these problems, and if so when?

Pandora
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: SEseph on March 08, 2012, 12:08:29 PM
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Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: BowHTR on March 08, 2012, 12:09:47 PM
This wont end very well.
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: The Fugitive on March 08, 2012, 12:12:03 PM
Of most of the things you mentioned I have had no issues. I avoid trees so don't bounce off and flip. I have had many rounds bounce off, as well as many that have been one shot kills. If you have any data to back up your claims of the plane models send them in. HTC has always been willing to listen

Yes the scoring system leaves much to desire, but why should it be twisted to promote team play. Not every one plays as a team and there is nothing wrong with that.

At this point with 4 post to your credit all you are doing is coming off as a cry baby.

Oh...... IN
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: coombz on March 08, 2012, 12:16:03 PM
Bye then
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: caldera on March 08, 2012, 12:29:18 PM
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Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Noir on March 08, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
if the bushes couldn't flip heavy tanks I would consider playing the ground game.
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Rob52240 on March 08, 2012, 12:36:12 PM
Hey I'm not having as much success in the game as I'd like.  Cheaters and the game developers must surely be the cause.

OK, sarcasm aside...  I'm still waiting on a reply for this little instance of possible cheating.  AHfilm file was sent in along with what we were seeing on radar.  It took me a few mins to get fraps running in game but the film recorder had been running at takeoff so we know who it was, and we know that the red dot that keeps disappearing is at 20k feet.

Film here:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGsqueakMv12w&feature=plcp&context=C43894b9VDvjVQa1PpcFMMXU0z8TuIOD6r5Oz13Gmu6pXJDmcEDpo%3D
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: titanic3 on March 08, 2012, 12:37:18 PM
You refuse to learn the game mechanics and expect to become an "ace" in one day? You get better by learning and watching, not by ranting.

When you get mad, take a break, then come back and watch the film. See what you did wrong. Did you turn when you weren't supposed to? Did you fall for a rope? Overshot?

Go to the Help section and ask for a trainer to help you.

You're new to this game, no? What'd you expect? To be rank 1 in 1 week? Years of practice, and even then there are guys that flown for years and still haven't reached their full potential.
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Slate on March 08, 2012, 12:39:00 PM
   I hit a tank the other day 6 times at point blank range and no damage....................... ....then remembered I was firing HE.  :uhoh
   This game is fun and like any good game frustrating at times. Go play MW2 for awile until you get bored doing the same thing over and over.
   Score is a rough measuring stick not a calibrated instrument. You can still knock fighters out of the sky no matter what thier score is.
   Connecting hundreds of Computers over vast and different networks with split second timing is no small task and salute  :salute HTC for making it possible. They are proactive at fixing problems when presented in a respectible way.  
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: VonMessa on March 08, 2012, 12:43:15 PM
  I hit a tank the other day 6 times at point blank range and no damage....................... ....then remembered I was firing HE.  :uhoh
   This game is fun and like any good game frustrating at times. Go play MW2 for awile until you get bored doing the same thing over and over.
   Score is a rough measuring stick not a calibrated instrument. You can still knock fighters out of the sky no matter what thier score is.
   Connecting hundreds of Computers over vast and different networks with split second timing is no small task and salute  :salute HTC for making it possible. They are proactive at fixing problems when presented in a respectible way.  

If the game was easy, I wouldn't play it...
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: whiteman on March 08, 2012, 12:43:33 PM
your problem is you suck.
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Volron on March 08, 2012, 12:44:09 PM
your problem is you suck.

 :lol
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: curry1 on March 08, 2012, 12:45:31 PM
Ground kills for fighters are shown as if they are plane kills which completely distorts the figher rankings.  Why not separate out all ground kills as an Attack score instead?

That is already true,  If you kill a GV while in fighter mode it doesn't effect your stats.  It doesn't add a kill.  Only when you are in attack does it add kills of GVs to your score.

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Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: infowars on March 08, 2012, 12:45:44 PM
Yeah sounds like someone sucks...

Typical blame someone else.

Go fly a kite OP
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: gpwurzel on March 08, 2012, 12:47:33 PM


The game has too many bugs.  Tanks that bounce off trees and turn over is one of my pet hates. Is the way the game is modelled. To make the tree's destroyable, and have your system remember would make your framerates hit the deck

Planes are not modelled correctly.  Examples include the Spit 9 which even carries the wrong engine and the P51D which is so OP is it rediculous. Flight models are constantly looked at by Hitech - if you have quantifiable evidence they are incorrect, pass it to the team for consideration

Field guns and wirbles for me fire 99% rubber bullets.  On occasion, even firing at a plance at 200 yards gives zero hits. Make sure you have vsync enabled. Turning it off produces rubber bullet syndrome. More lead required, the plane at 200 yards is moving fast, lead more.



This game has way too many cheats.  I have no idea how they do it (or for that matter why), but you seem to have no way of stopping them.  I see planes warp all over the skies when they are being attacked, yet have no issues when they are attacking.  Tanks that take 15+ hits and don't die.  Tanks that can fire through tree and even hills. Planes warping when attacked is the result of the packets being sent arriving late, ditto for when being attacked. Some people have slow connections (wireless/satellite - which are not ideal for gaming, but may be the only connection available in their area) As for tanks firing through trees - whilst you may not be able to see them, they can obviously see a bit of you that they can hit.

To see the difference between water and land needs two settings turned on that then produce high latency.  It should surely be possible to see the ground as one colour and the sea as another without needing these Detail settings switched on.  The base settings ingame make sure you can differentiate between land and water. Turning on the eye candy requires more resource, and is more of a hit on your computer.

So, what's it to be?  Are you going to make any commitments at all to fix all of these problems, and if so when? Most of the problems you've detailed are not at Hitech's end, the current state of the internet (at that particular time) has a big bearing on things

Hope this helps

Wurz
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: SPKmes on March 08, 2012, 12:57:04 PM
Hello Hitech!

 Just to add to Gwurzels lot

The scoring system is a mess.  It does not lead to good team/country play and leads people to mass personal score instead of playing for the game objectives.  Ground kills for fighters are shown as if they are plane kills which completely distorts the figher rankings.  Why not separate out all ground kills as an Attack score instead? GV kills are not counted toward score unless you are in attack mode i believe...thus not distorting that precious fighter K/D... but it will mess up other areas of fighter score if you insist on killing GV's in that mode

This game has way too many cheats.  I have no idea how they do it (or for that matter why), but you seem to have no way of stopping them.  I see planes warp all over the skies when they are being attacked, yet have no issues when they are attacking.  Tanks that take 15+ hits and don't die.  Tanks that can fire through tree and even hills. Just to add on from Gwurz ..... this sounds like your pc with the problem...needs a beef up...the jumps only happen when you fire???

To see the difference between water and land needs two settings turned on that then produce high latency.  It should surely be possible to see the ground as one colour and the sea as another without needing these Detail settings switched on. As above..... I don't have a hi spec pc and so I don't try to run all the candy.... but I can run detailed water and graphics (when not in a 30 each side fight) with no issues...check your processes ..... put up you specs in the software hardware threads...guys here will help trim up your machine...

So, what's it to be? 

Pandora
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: RipRap on March 08, 2012, 01:24:13 PM
Pandora,

   While i see your frustration on some of your issues, relax man. I don't know how long you've been playing, but over the past few days I have been in the same battles with you. Just today, yourself, LTown and I rolled into rook base A21 and flattened it with gv's ~special thanks to FBRedge for the supps~, and you were having a good time. This game is not perfect, but considering that it takes a lot of talent, time & $$ for HTC to produce a Sim that connects people all over the planet in a real time combat environment, you have to admit they have done a pretty outstanding job.
   That being said, don't give up on it. It's could be worse...remember Atari.

 :salute

Otto
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Dragon on March 08, 2012, 01:41:52 PM
   I hit a tank the other day 6 times at point blank range and no damage....................... ....then remembered I was firing HE.  :uhoh
   

LOL, a squad mate did the same thing the other day in a Tiger.  He started ranting that he couldn't kill the T-34 with 3 direct hits before he found himself towered.

Rant...rant....rant.... oh uh, um, nevermind.  Damn HE rounds!


As to the OP, read the explanations given and learn.



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Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: lyric1 on March 08, 2012, 01:49:58 PM
 :O
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: SunBat on March 08, 2012, 01:52:06 PM
These sorts of threads only serve to open up a box of you.
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: guncrasher on March 08, 2012, 01:52:11 PM
I agree with pandora and a lot of what she says.  that's why i find myself playing wot more and more.  at least over it's expected for others to game and other things.  but in ah i kindda pisses me off to to see a lot of the crap that happens.

semp
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Slash27 on March 08, 2012, 02:01:15 PM
Pandora has sand in his box.
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: bacon8tr on March 08, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
your problem is you suck.
  Sig worthy.  Oh and IN!!
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: caldera on March 08, 2012, 02:09:30 PM
Pandora has sand in his box.

In two weeks, he can come back with the shade name: SandyVag
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: ROC on March 08, 2012, 02:14:55 PM
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This game has way too many cheats.  I have no idea how they do it (or for that matter why), but you seem to have no way of stopping them.

You really need to know what you are talking about before you start tossing out cheat accusations.  If you have "proof" of a cheat or even suspect one, you have been around long enough to know the process of submitting one.

Most of what I have read is simply your confusing "things you don't understand" with "things that need fixed".  Not unlike your having a hard time figuring out why your speakers were crackling.  That was an awful lot of effort for such a minor technical problem. I would think you would wait until you understood how things really worked before you started blasting it apart for being broken.
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Yeager on March 08, 2012, 02:20:57 PM
Well at least the poster didnt complain about HOs and collisions.

A lot of what the poster said have been ongoing weaknesses in the game since its inception.  But mostly I say this "learn to enjoy the good and avoid the bad, like any other game".

Thanks you, thank you very much.....
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Wiseguy980 on March 08, 2012, 02:25:15 PM
Suck Less.
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Mar on March 08, 2012, 02:28:32 PM
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Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Gman on March 08, 2012, 02:35:19 PM
I find the exact opposite to be true of everything the OP posted, other than the tanks flipping over/acting strangely, but I'm a pilot, not a tank toad, so at least for me, not an issue.

I agree with whoever told you that "you suck".  Just think about it, there are dozens of guys that are uber, like a Grizz, Kappa, or Leviathan, and dozens of guys not far off from them,  that have NONE of the issues that you have.  When ONE of these things is NOT LIKE the other, and this one thing turns out to be YOU, it's time to be honest with yourself.

Also don't forget that perspective is a HUGE thing.  So many guys cry and complain about what happens to them, without thinking that they were just on the other end of that stick an hour ago.  Think of all the times you've made shots/moves that made you say "wow" out loud, those times when your shot was so amazing that you can't believe you just connected with it.  To you this is just a great/lucky/whatever shot/move.  To your target it's usually a WTF!@#!

Hell, even this morning, Hotard made an amazing shot on my Spit14 in his La7 that had me saying WTF!!#! right out loud, but I've learned to hold my peace, go back and look at things from the shooters perspective, sometimes with the film, and EVERY time it is a case of a great one-off type of shot that I've landed on somebody in the same way at some time.  So next time you feel "wronged", or you're convinced that "the game is broken, time to cry on the BBS" think about the time you were on the other end of that stick, and just stfu and play the game.

If not,

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Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: TwinBoom on March 08, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
sounds like pc lag and vsync turned off
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Banshee7 on March 08, 2012, 02:49:30 PM
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Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: uptown on March 08, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
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...........the P51D which is so OP is it rediculous.............  What's "OP" mean?
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: Slate on March 08, 2012, 03:09:29 PM
These sorts of threads only serve to open up a box of you.
  Now thats Comedy
...........the P51D which is so OP is it rediculous.............  What's "OP" mean?
Out performed or Out performing?
Title: Re: Bugs and Cheats
Post by: LCADolby on March 08, 2012, 03:13:36 PM
I'm a bug :noid