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Title: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Butcher on March 08, 2012, 07:13:19 PM
Every few months I put together a tank clinic, idea is to get players the right tools and tricks to help them take a leap into tanking, I am going to shoot for Saturday or Sunday to run it, most likely 5-6pm EST and it will run around an hour or more.

If your interested just drop a line down here, and ill try to get everyone situated and setup so we can start.

I'm going to cover a wide range of basic tools to understand tanking on offense, defense and how to setup your game to get the maximum performance out of it.

It will not make you an Ace over night, the idea is to give you some tools so you can get more confident and tank more often.

cheers,
butcher
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: SIK1 on March 08, 2012, 07:55:07 PM
Thanks Butcher,

I'm totally clueless when it comes to GV's  :joystick: so I will try and make this.

I need to get a clue with the Winter Sky scenario up coming.  :x

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: The Fugitive on March 08, 2012, 08:57:13 PM
I'm in  :aok
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Tank-Ace on March 08, 2012, 10:02:25 PM
Butcher, what are you planning on teaching them exactly?
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Butcher on March 09, 2012, 07:20:15 AM
Butcher, what are you planning on teaching them exactly?

I'm going to cover a wide range of basic tools to understand tanking on offense, defense and how to setup your game to get the maximum performance out of it.

1. setting up sounds - most have no sound pack and couldn't tell the difference between two tanks starting up
2. sounds in game - i can hear a tank 3k away and identify it and which direction its going
3. basic understanding of armor
4. offensive tactics
5. defensive tactics
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Butcher on March 09, 2012, 07:42:14 AM
First thing I need everyone that does NOT have a sound pack, is to download mine for an example to get an understanding of why its important to have a sound pack. This is a quick download less then 6MB, if you are unhappy with it or want another, we have plenty of sound packs in the Custom Skins and sound packs on the BBS, many quality sound packs are available from Twinboom, Mitsu, Ranger and etc. The reason my sound pack is not hosted is I customized mine from a collection of sound packs, very few of my sounds are authentic so I don't host it, I give credit mainly to twinboom for my sound pack, although I did chop up a bunch of packs and put this one together.

Here's a quick link to download it:
www.367thdynamitegang.com/upload/butcher-tanksounds.rar (http://www.367thdynamitegang.com/upload/butcher-tanksounds.rar)

You need an RAR program like WinRAR to unzip this pack, WINrar is free and easy to use, when you are done installing it simply double click on this file and extract it into your Aces High / sounds folder. IF you need help with this, let me know there's a few people that had trouble with it in the past and I'd like to get people set up with this (it can be a challenge) to someone who lacks understanding of windows Explore. Don't get frustrated though.

Basically this file contains all the sounds for every GV in game. The basic idea is every tank is unique in a sound perspective, understanding the identification is almost like RADAR, you can figure out what kind of vehicle is starting up, and what range.

It does take time to understand this, after years of doing it I can finally use this information like radar, explaining what range and type of tank it is.

Note:
In a situation where there's more then one tank, this is where it gets tough, you have to use line of sight (LOS) to get a visual on whats in your area.

Also cooperation between friendlies is almost a requirement, since you dont know if most friendlies have a sound pack - simply asking them to "shut down" their engine helps both you and the friendlies track the enemy a little better, some might rely on your ability to track enemy tanks in helping them get into position.

Now the biggest key will be setting up those sounds, which I will do in the clinic because frankly I would be alt tabbing for 30 minutes writing down what needs to be changed.

Basically the sound settings in GAME also have to be changed, they can be done in two ways that I have it figured out: one for fighters/bombers and one for ground vehicles, setting it up correctly helps a player identify and track a tank in game - this is one reason the sound pack is so important - if all tanks sound the same, you might end up trying to have a "good, bad and ugly" shoot out with a king tiger while in a M4(75) - identifying him with a sound pack gives an advantage as you know you can't simply start shooting at him from 2k out hoping for a kill, if his engines running then he can't hear you - giving you the advantage that you picked him up FIRST, and you are first to act.

First to act in a general rule also means first to shoot, given a few advantages it can go a very long way.


Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: bortas1 on March 09, 2012, 01:49:08 PM
 :salute i will try and make it.
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Orbitson on March 09, 2012, 03:04:15 PM
I am interested and plan to be there.  Have you confirmed a day and time?
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Butcher on March 09, 2012, 03:22:35 PM
I am interested and plan to be there.  Have you confirmed a day and time?

I'd like to shoot for Saturday at 5pm-6pm EST I will also host it sunday if anyone misses it.
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Tank-Ace on March 09, 2012, 05:56:56 PM
Butcher, you should include the use of terrain and cover as a whole seperate unit. I always felt that most people were lacking not in tactics, but in SA, and recognition of likely cover.
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: WEZEL on March 09, 2012, 06:11:45 PM
Sounds like fun I'm in  :aok
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: MutleyBR on March 09, 2012, 07:43:55 PM
 In!   :aok  :salute

Mutley
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: bortas1 on March 10, 2012, 06:59:09 AM
 :salute crap supposed to have thundar storms all weeken in oklahoma, most likly will not be there. any chance you can gilm it and post on you tube? i would rather be there in person but who knows. weather in oklahoma supposed to change by the hour as the local custom goes. good luck anyhow.
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: SIK1 on March 10, 2012, 10:41:24 AM

I'd like to shoot for Saturday at 5pm-6pm EST I will also host it sunday if anyone misses it.

Saturday works for me. Where?
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Delirium on March 10, 2012, 10:57:40 AM
While this isn't an official AHTrainer event, I'll be there to help police and herd the cats.

Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Butcher on March 10, 2012, 11:39:07 AM
While this isn't an official AHTrainer event, I'll be there to help police and herd the cats.



Yes I'm sorry to not explain its not an official Event, I am just a regular player offering to help =)

It will be in the Training Arena at 5pm EST, in the GV area, I will likely be idled in the TA for most of the day, if not in the main arena you can PM me if you need
I will be Bishop at V55 (Vehicle base) in the Training Arena roughly 30 minutes before 5pm EST
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: SIK1 on March 10, 2012, 01:10:02 PM
Thanks Butcher,
I'll be there.

 :salute
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: WWhiskey on March 10, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
I'll try to make it as well!  but am supposed to play poker elsewhere at 3pm Texas time,,, not sure how this will all work out!
 I am also starting a new GV squad   HELL ON WHEELS  second armored division  "SPEARHEAD"
(http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/15/62/01/38/2nd_ar10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=298&u=15620138)
 and looking for members,, it doesn't matter what side you play on,, I want get a Ground squad together to have a little fun with,, I'm on vox 252 in late war these days  and would love to have some members and help anyone who wants it!
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Butcher on March 10, 2012, 05:17:45 PM
Here's a text writeup that's basic in form on what I discussed, hopefully someone can post the film as I went more detailed then I did in the text Document.

www.367thdynamitegang.com/upload/Ground Combat.rtf (http://www.367thdynamitegang.com/upload/Ground Combat.rtf)

I'd like to thank WWHiskey for helping out, and everyone for showing up - hopefully the info can be useful and please don't get discouraged!

Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: stran on March 11, 2012, 09:07:19 AM
 :furious Short notice! :bhead
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: The Fugitive on March 11, 2012, 10:25:43 AM
Thanks for the tips. I did run fraps through it, but it didn't capture the sound...which is kinda important as you pointed out  :D Thanks again!
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: WWhiskey on March 11, 2012, 10:38:23 AM
I'll get the films up in a bit!!! Hangin out with the wife rite now!
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: WWhiskey on March 11, 2012, 11:34:45 AM
hope this helps!
http://www.mediafire.com/?aki17b71dwjriug  part one
http://www.mediafire.com/?kb2xucelkh2gr0e  part two
http://www.mediafire.com/?ob7hpj9wvxpdl9d  part three





other films of mine  I thought you might enjoy
http://www.mediafire.com/?226gkvo3qqva55p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahxA1cslh2g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzyxAMntVvk
and last but not least   camping 101,, or more like  100
http://www.mediafire.com/?4v5914333733wkw
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: SIK1 on March 12, 2012, 02:36:53 PM
Butcher I wanted to say thanks for taking the time to put this on.
I probably wont ever be a great GV'er, but I now have a better understanding on that aspect of the game.

 :salute
SIK1
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Butcher on March 12, 2012, 03:40:07 PM
Butcher I wanted to say thanks for taking the time to put this on.
I probably wont ever be a great GV'er, but I now have a better understanding on that aspect of the game.

 :salute
SIK1

Practice practice practice! Whenever you get time to hop in a GV just remember to scout the area in a storch, pick your spots and have fun :)
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: MutleyBR on March 13, 2012, 12:54:14 PM
Hi all.

Unfortunately, wife used her ESP and made appointments for us, and only told me about it later...  :rolleyes:

Thatīs why I didnīt show.

Would like to thank Butcher for sharing his experience.

Would also like to thank WWhiskey for the films.

Hope I can make it to the next clinic.

Take care all!   :aok :aok :salute
Title: Re: Tank Clinic coming soon
Post by: Butcher on March 13, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
if you ever have questions or want to head to the training arena just send me a PM through the BBS, im usually available after 5pm EST