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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ozrocker on March 13, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
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Pretty cool. Wonder if it will be able to hit anything.
http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/no-need-to-dual-wield-with-this-double-barrel-45-20120312/
:cheers: Oz
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Radio this morn says 15 yards can hit an orange.
It'll have a kick to it. :)
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Better have big hands to hold on to that puppy. :eek:
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Better have big hands to hold on to that puppy. :eek:
Not that big. 1911 grips are fairly narrow. Recoil would likely be significant, but not too punishing.
Kind of reminds me of the pepperbox guns they had back when.
Wiley.
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Pretty cool. Wonder if it will be able to hit anything.
http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/no-need-to-dual-wield-with-this-double-barrel-45-20120312/
:cheers: Oz
:huh
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Wondering just how big the guy you would be shooting is after all. If one .45 slug doesn't get his attention, I think I'd find another
fight, thank you very much :D
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Radio this morn says 15 yards can hit an orange.
An orange what? An orange Barn?
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That's pretty silly.
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:huh
Are you wondering about the weapon, or the comment I posted?
Any current/former Military member that ever shot an M1911, knows why I posted the comment.
The M1911 (Military version), was/is very inaccurate.
:cheers: Oz
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Are you wondering about the weapon, or the comment I posted?
Any current/former Military member that ever shot an M1911, knows why I posted the comment.
The M1911 (Military version), was/is very inaccurate.
:cheers: Oz
It had poor sights, but I wouldn't say the m1911 was inaccurate. Some people may get that impression from the very poor quality sights on the original, but the fact they couldn't hit consistent was due to never getting a consistent sight picture. What besides anecdotal tales makes you believe it isn't accurate? I've shot a modern replica of a military m1911 and was frustrated with inconsistent misses, high, low all over the place, then I switched to a gun that was the same in every respect except for modern sights, and suddenly I couldn't miss. Even the cheapest 1911 I've fired, a Rock Island, seemed to be accurate, even though it was obviously "cheaper" in other areas then the likes of Springfield or Ruger. (Not to mention premium 1911s like Ed Brown or Wilson Combat) Of course I am biased in that I believe Browning is still the greatest American gun designer, and the 1911 was one of his top masterpieces.
I was about to launch into a rant about how accuracy is an overrated criteria in handguns anyway, but I'll refrain. Let me just say that handguns are close range weapons and I put criteria like sights and ergonomics and trigger characteristics over ultimate accuracy. What does it matter how accurate a round is, if you can't use the sights, or grip the gun properly.
As for the doubled barreled thing... yea, it's very silly. :rolleyes:
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Having served quite a while in the Infantry and having an M1911 (Standard Army issue sidearm),((not a "Replica")) for my weapon,
being a Marksmanship Instructor,and firing many rounds with it, maybe qualifies me to critique it.
Remember, I'm not talking about .45's that are for championship target shooting. That is a whole different weapon.
The M1911 Army issue were old, loose as an AH ewe, and very inacurate beyond 10-15 feet.
Yes feet, not meters. Sights were wore, true. Some would be a foot off target at 25 meters.
"I was about to launch into a rant about how accuracy is an overrated criteria in handguns anyway" :huh
At "Close-Combat range" Sir, I would say dead wrong.
:cheers: Oz
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I prefer this double barrel gun.
(http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/531/MG81Z.JPG)
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Not that big. 1911 grips are fairly narrow. Recoil would likely be significant, but not too punishing.
Kind of reminds me of the pepperbox guns they had back when.
Wiley.
No worse than a .44 Magnum, that I guarantee you. ;)
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Are you wondering about the weapon, or the comment I posted?
Any current/former Military member that ever shot an M1911, knows why I posted the comment.
The M1911 (Military version), was/is very inaccurate.
:cheers: Oz
Mostly the gun, followed closely by some Italian financial bailout association, but now that you draw attention to it - yeah I really don't see this helping it hit anything better than the good ol' Mk1.
I'm non-mil, but I've shot 1911s plenty (including some old army ones) and they're probabley one of my favorite pistols. I am aware of it's inherant inacuracy - if I recall mostly due to it's design (and since they do keep improoving the sight, even today, one can argue that it's never been perfect) and the .45's balistics (modern designs I think improved the *randomness* and looseness with improoving the mechanism govenering/seating the barrel and the quality of the "free floating" barrel (? i think they call it?... I'm no expert)... . It's not a needle threader, it's a slug chucker - but arguabley one of the best (imho).
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My question, when are you going to be shooting at some one past a 25 yards? That seems to be about the max range I would dare say for a bonestock, no mod's M1911. Even at 25yds, with stock sights and a firm two handed grip, a competent shooter should be able to put rounds center mass.
"It was decided early in the study that high velocity and long range were not required of a military sidearm. Such an arm was for use only at short ranges. The first requisite was striking power, the sledge-hammer blow, a bullet that would stop the most deliriously berserk wild man in his tracks. As soon as it became evident that the .45 caliber would be the choice of the board, John designed a .45-caliber cartridge which he thought would do...
The .45 pistol was undoubtedly another of John's favorites. In the interim between the invention of the gun and the official tests, almost any afternoon, when John was in Ogden, he would leave the shop at four o'clock to wake echoes in the foothills with a couple hundred rounds...
The Ordnance Command made the following stipulations: 6000 rounds were to be fired through each pistol under consideration...
The trial ran through two days of actual firing... the strain [on John] grew worse as the count mounted...
When the booming came to a sudden end, he was not sure whether the pistol had finished the 6000 or whether there had been a malfunction. For a moment, the world was empty of sound. Then one of the soldiers who had been filling magazines let out a hoarse ejaculation, "She made it, by God!"...
John stepped up onto the bench where he had been sitting, took off his hat, and waited until the applause died down. "Gentlemen," he said, "the young man who spoke so eloquently a moment ago expressed my feelings precisely..."
Orders from the Chief of Ordnance of the General Staff and Secretary of War dated March 29, 1911, made the adoption of the Model 1911 official."
[JOHN M. BROWNING - AMERICAN GUNMAKER - by John Browning and Curt Gentry]