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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: HamrDown on March 21, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
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I have noticed that too many peeps fly the LA7, and it is a great plane. However, should it not be perked? Its fast, manuverable and yet the Spit Mk14 and the F4UC and F4U-4 are perked, and they are nearly not as much of a plane as the over-modeled LA7.
PLEASE PERK THE LA7 to at least 15 points!
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No, it has no range to fly anywhere. Also at altitudes of 13k and up the plane just sucks.
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it is a dominant air superiority fighter in the sub-10k world for sure, but it does not carry bombs. And that is my gipe about the 51, not the speed but the versatility.
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it is a dominant air superiority fighter in the sub-10k world for sure, but it does not carry bombs. And that is my gipe about the 51, not the speed but the versatility.
You complain about the P51, is that what your saying?
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it is a dominant air superiority fighter in the sub-10k world for sure, but it does not carry bombs. And that is my gipe about the 51, not the speed but the versatility.
La7 can carry little 50kg bombs...
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No, it has no range to fly anywhere. Also at altitudes of 13k and up the plane just sucks.
There is no argument here for range, I mean the Spit 14 has horrible range; range is not a factor.
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Regarless, the LA7 is so fast that if in any plane it will chase you down and kill you, only the 262 and 163 is faster at -10k. The LA7 needs to be perked, way too many use it for HO'ing and some fly it very well in the vertical. The 51 is not as fast and not as versitile in my opinion. When a base is under attack, I see about 50% LA7's lifting. I fly a variety of planes and have flown the LA7. It is a plane that should cost some perk points to fly, and many many players agree. :rolleyes:
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Regarless, the LA7 is so fast that if in any plane it will chase you down and kill you, only the 262 and 163 is faster at -10k. The LA7 needs to be perked, way too many use it for HO'ing and some fly it very well in the vertical. The 51 is not as fast and not as versitile in my opinion. When a base is under attack, I see about 50% LA7's lifting. I fly a variety of planes and have flown the LA7. It is a plane that should cost some perk points to fly, and many many players agree. :rolleyes:
No
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Regarless, the LA7 is so fast that if in any plane it will chase you down and kill you, only the 262 and 163 is faster at -10k. The LA7 needs to be perked, way too many use it for HO'ing and some fly it very well in the vertical. The 51 is not as fast and not as versitile in my opinion. When a base is under attack, I see about 50% LA7's lifting. I fly a variety of planes and have flown the LA7. It is a plane that should cost some perk points to fly, and many many players agree. :rolleyes:
You see many lifting because they have a very short takeoff and accelerate into the fight quickly, hit fairly hard and are good on the deck, or at the very least better on the deck than the 15-20 Ponies that are trying to cap the base. At least that would be my guess.
Bob
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Yeah, I see the point in using them, but still the plane should be perked, many perked planes are not as good....F4UC, F4U4, Spit14, Tempest.
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There is no argument here for range, I mean the Spit 14 has horrible range; range is not a factor.
Spit14 can take a slipper tank.
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Yeah, I see the point in using them, but still the plane should be perked, many perked planes are not as good....F4UC, F4U4, Spit14, Tempest.
:huh
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Spit14 can take a slipper tank.
...which still does bugger-all to extend its range. ;)
LA's got great low alt performance and ability to get to the fight quickly. That means it gets a lot of use in the MA, but I don't think it's worth perking myself. If it needs perking, so does the 109K4, especially considering the K4's droptank adds significant range.
There's always going to be something that gets a lot of use because it's good.
Wiley.
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...which still does bugger-all to extend its range. ;)
LA's got great low alt performance and ability to get to the fight quickly. That means it gets a lot of use in the MA, but I don't think it's worth perking myself. If it needs perking, so does the 109K4, especially considering the K4's droptank adds significant range.
There's always going to be something that gets a lot of use because it's good.
Wiley.
Drop tank carrage, even when tank is off makes a hit on both performance and speed of k4.
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The LA7 needs to be perked, way too many use it for HO'ing and some fly it very well in the vertical.
Following this logic, ALL planes in the set would need to be perked.
and many many players agree.
Ah, the battle-cry of a weak argument. If so many agree, where are all the replies here agreeing with your proposal?
For the record, I agree it's an exceedingly good plane (and ideal for base defense), however it's probably not perk-worthy. I also agree it is a bit of a dweeb plane, easy to fly, extend and HO in. It has its deficiencies, particularly range – I believe due to some of the fuel compartments actually being dedicated to stowage for an assortment of shoes, purses and cocktail dresses. No need to make La-7 pilots lose perks when shot down, in addition to losing a collection of eveningwear.
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As the old adage goes..."People want to perk what they can't shoot down."
ack-ack
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I view the LA-7 as the home field advantage. If there's an LA-7 at your base he probably won't be there long, and if you're at an enemy base you have all the ability to not put yourself in the position to be tracked by him.
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I have noticed that too many peeps fly the LA7
Have you noticed this:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/Untitled-1.jpg)
Notice that the plane with the most usage has 2096 more kills than the #2 and #3 planes combined.
2096:
That would be enough to place #26 out of all 66 fighters in the game.
2096 is more kills than these 41 planes have:
Yak-9U
P-51B
C.205
190-A5
FM2
109-G6
Tempest
B-239
F4U-4
P-47D-40
P-47D-25
P-47N
109-G2
Ta-152
P-47D-11
F4U-1
Ki-61
190-F8
109-F4
Spit XIV
Me-163
Yak-9T
Spit V
P-38G
La-5
A6M3
Hurri IID
F4F-4
P-39Q
I-16
109-E4
P-40N
C.202
A6M2
P-39D
110-C4B
P-40F
SpitI
P-40E
P-40C
Hurri I
Hint: there is a plane that many "peeps" fly, but not the one you're thinking of.
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Have you noticed this:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/Untitled-1.jpg)
Notice that the plane with the most usage has 2096 more kills than the #2 and #3 planes combined.
I knew it! Perk the dam Ship gunners!
When the gun dies so should you.
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the LA7 is so fast that if in any plane it will chase you down and kill you
So stop running and start fighting.
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Regarless, the LA7 is so fast that if in any plane it will chase you down and kill you, only the 262 and 163 is faster at -10k. The LA7 needs to be perked, way too many use it for HO'ing and some fly it very well in the vertical. The 51 is not as fast and not as versitile in my opinion. When a base is under attack, I see about 50% LA7's lifting. I fly a variety of planes and have flown the LA7. It is a plane that should cost some perk points to fly, and many many players agree. :rolleyes:
bah. who'd want to fly a lala?
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La7 sucks for trying to kill high bombers. It loses all it's zip up there. :uhoh
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Who cares? Just shoot em down. They can't hurt you if they are running away :)
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Who cares? Just shoot em down. They can't hurt you if they are running away :)
+1
That goes for any plane for that matter, they all die and they all have their weaknesses.
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He is young to the game as of yet and this is just a "Warm Up Whine". Wait untill he meets a stick who really can fly the La7 around about the time he feels his ACM is rockin hot and starts standing his ground. That's the WHINE you are going to have fun with. He is just discovering there are things faster than him on the deck when he's DDing outta town after a failed pick or HO. Let his frustration simmer. Time and patience for an epic WHINE........
We all had to learn the hard way just like he is now. Rolex needs to hold a clinic on "How to PICK and RUN the RIGHT WAY". Or our young warrior can go to Rolex's upcoming clinic on Basic ACM on the 21st. It's posted in the "Help and Training" forum.
Now gentelmen don't crush him yet. Nurture his feelings so you have something to look forward to on those rainy days at work when you need cheering up....heheheheehee.
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La7 can carry little 50kg bombs...
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/wecauseascene/gifs/tdstcr/353c953.gif)
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(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/wecauseascene/gifs/tdstcr/353c953.gif)
Well, he said la's don't have bombs and they do...
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LA-7, good airplane, but not perk worthy. Great base defence aircraft though, can get into the fight quick with a lot of E already built up.
:salute
BigRat
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Its fast, manuverable and yet the Spit Mk14 and the F4UC and F4U-4 are perked, and they are nearly not as much of a plane as the over-modeled LA7.
The day an La7 can beat any of the 3 planes mentioned above in a 1vs1 let me know.
The La7 sucks...period.
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La7 vs spit14, my vote is on the la7 tho ;) All the spit has is high altitude performance and a slight climb rate advantage while the guns/stability/turn radius all go to the lala.
Against the c-hog, they both have serious advantage on the other one, it isnt easy to compare.
The 4hog completely owns the la7 in every aspect.
As for its range, if you dont want to travel at 370mph, or maybe 300 is enough for you, it can fly for like 50-55 minutes. Thats a pretty good range, i think. Its "combat time" what is a bit short.
ENY5 please.
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No, it has no range to fly anywhere (without fuel management.) Also at altitudes of 22k and up the plane just (sorta) sucks.
fixed for ya. :noid :aok :bolt:
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Regarless, the LA7 is so fast that if in any plane it will chase you down and kill you,
I'll step up and say... yeah, it'll eventually run just about anything down, but you'd be surprised how long it actually takes vs it's contemporaries - often long enough for help to arrive or make it back to friendly AA.
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He is young to the game as of yet and this is just a "Warm Up Whine". Wait untill he meets a stick who really can fly the La7 around about the time he feels his ACM is rockin hot and starts standing his ground.
nom nom nom :old: :joystick: :ahand :neener: :bhead :furious
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The day an La7 can beat any of the 3 planes mentioned above in a 1vs1 let me know.
The La7 sucks...period.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinm.php?playername=Shane&selectTour=LWTour145&kindex=16&pindex=42
:noid :neener:
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I have noticed that too many peeps fly the LA7, and it is a great plane. However, should it not be perked? Its fast, manuverable and yet the Spit Mk14 and the F4UC and F4U-4 are perked, and they are nearly not as much of a plane as the over-modeled LA7.
PLEASE PERK THE LA7 to at least 15 points!
Yet, it sucks on a dive as i had a few chase me to met the ground. They can not pull out of the dive as easy as i can in the Jug.
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The day an La7 can beat any of the 3 planes mentioned above in a 1vs1 let me know.
The La7 sucks...period.
The hogs are easy mode but the Spit 14 isn't really an issue for the La.
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I have noticed that too many peeps fly the LA7, and it is a great plane. However, should it not be perked? Its fast, manuverable and yet the Spit Mk14 and the F4UC and F4U-4 are perked, and they are nearly not as much of a plane as the over-modeled LA7.
Heck, i can beat a Spit 14 while flying a D-25.
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Heck, i can beat a Spit 14 while flying a D-25.
Then the 14 driver must really suck.
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No, it has no range to fly anywhere. Also at altitudes of 13k and up the plane just sucks.
Ever notice the La7's best altitude for speed is 20,000ft??? Suckage is not a word to use with the La7 until you reach 27k and up, it does not have the wings to keep it afloat up that high. It is a bomber interceptor first and foremost, and I think it does that role very well in terms of speed, climb, and firepower. What else can match it?
The fact that people use the La7 as a boom-n-zoom-n-run mobile is the issue. The 8 ENY is not representative to its abilities. Oh, and the 50kg bombs are quite nice to have vs the lighter skins gv's. Try it sometime.
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maybe not 15 but..2 or 3.
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Ever notice the La7's best altitude for speed is 20,000ft??? Suckage is not a word to use with the La7 until you reach 27k and up, it does not have the wings to keep it afloat up that high. It is a bomber interceptor first and foremost, and I think it does that role very well in terms of speed, climb, and firepower. What else can match it?
The fact that people use the La7 as a boom-n-zoom-n-run mobile is the issue. The 8 ENY is not representative to its abilities. Oh, and the 50kg bombs are quite nice to have vs the lighter skins gv's. Try it sometime.
Most pilots who fly la's fly it wide open no throttle work at all, burn all the fuel and makes them very easy to force an overshoot.
Only plane I will complain about is a brewster
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Most pilots who fly la's fly it wide open no throttle work at all, burn all the fuel and makes them very easy to force an overshoot.
Only plane I will complain about is a brewster
:headscratch:
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You have not lived until a hoard of Brewsters hands you your shorts. It's like getting swarmed by a cloud of deer flys in July.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinm.php?playername=Shane&selectTour=LWTour145&kindex=16&pindex=42
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OK, now THAT'S funny! :rofl
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:headscratch:
Only people who have a clue how to fly a plane in this game are going to be the only people who will make the LA leathal. New guys flying it make easy kills.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinm.php?playername=Shane&selectTour=LWTour145&kindex=16&pindex=42
:noid :neener:
Is foot in mouth disease contagious? :rofl :rofl
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As the old adage goes..."People want to perk what they can't shoot down."
ack-ack
Yes I think the p38 should definatly be perked :devil and take away their blenders and sight bots.
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The La7 is best used as a Base Defense fighter and with a 50% fuel only increases it's lethality. To those who say: "It sucks". :rofl
I still remember winging Stang and having CMustard call me a hacker when his CV ack hugging Zero was shot down with ease. Right after that, Stang lost his main gun on his Wirble and whined on vox for 10 minutes. :furious
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LA7 is garbage. the 5 is way better.
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I've had good luck with it in the past in a base defense role. But I think the guns somewhat suck compared to the 50 cals i'm used to in the American planes. It's a good down low fighter but not good enough to be perked IMO. In the right hands it can be lethal, but then again what plane can't be with the right pilot?
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinm.php?playername=Shane&selectTour=LWTour145&kindex=16&pindex=42
:noid :neener:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsof.php?playername=SHawk&selectTour=LWTour143&pindex=42
:noid :neener:
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LA's suck :P
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I barely outturn them in my A8, but its doable.
We where talking about the Lancaster , right ? :bolt:
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A guy was complaining tonight on 200 that the Spit 16 should be perked. I asked why. He said a good pilot in a 16 is almost unbeatable. I asked him how often he runs into a good pilot in a Spit 16? He said not often.
Same thing applies here. There just aren't that many good pilots flying La7s. Think about the 51 drivers. 1 guy out of 100 that really knows how to fly it. The rest go fast, shoot from too far out and eventually lose their E and wind up in slow flat turns til they die.
All the stats in the world don't change that.
So perking a bird because a good stick handed you your backside is just silly as it doesn't represent average MA gameplay.
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A guy was complaining tonight on 200 that the Spit 16 should be perked. I asked why. He said a good pilot in a 16 is almost unbeatable. I asked him how often he runs into a good pilot in a Spit 16? He said not often.
Same thing applies here. There just aren't that many good pilots flying La7s. Think about the 51 drivers. 1 guy out of 100 that really knows how to fly it. The rest go fast, shoot from too far out and eventually lose their E and wind up in slow flat turns til they die.
All the stats in the world don't change that.
So perking a bird because a good stick handed you your backside is just silly as it doesn't represent average MA gameplay.
Guess that goes for the same for the perk AC too.
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Guess that goes for the same for the perk AC too.
Yep. I'd unperk em all. I don't fly perk birds anyway, but since I don't really die and can always get a new plane, I am not real worried about them. Sometimes part of the Fun is making them miss :aok
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but since I don't really die and can always get a new plane, I am not real worried about them.
You sure don't over use that line.
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I've been enjoying the la7 lately. been on a russian kick I guess instead of my ussual Luftwaffe birds. il2 la5 and la7 are great fun. if we get some updated nice looking yaks im sure i would be in those too if this VVS trend im on continues.
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Yeah, I see the point in using them, but still the plane should be perked, many perked planes are not as good....F4UC, F4U4, Spit14, Tempest.
:huh
Because none of the four planes you mentioned are uber. No one ever flies Tempest in the DA! No one ever notes the presence of a C hog in a furball or the -4 either. No one ever worries about a spit 14 over their heads. Yeah, those planes are deffinetly not worth perking! End sarcasm
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The day an La7 can beat any of the 3 planes mentioned above in a 1vs1 let me know.
The La7 sucks...period.
I'll take a well flown LA7 over your SPT 14 and C hog in a deck merge duel any day of the week....4 Hog is best dog fighter in game IMO
(But we all know how hard it is to find SHawk on the deck :D )
Only people who have a clue how to fly a plane in this game are going to be the only people who will make the LA leathal. New guys flying it make easy kills.
Wrong, example= Hoagi
Fact is if LA7 deserves a perk...so does the P51D and Spit 16, possibly the N1k
:salute
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A guy was complaining tonight on 200 that the Spit 16 should be perked. I asked why. He said a good pilot in a 16 is almost unbeatable.
A good pilot in any plane can give the easy mode planes a run for their money.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsof.php?playername=SHawk&selectTour=LWTour143&pindex=42
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yeah, but how many were 1 v 1? :noid :aok
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I'll step up and say... yeah, it'll eventually run just about anything down, but you'd be surprised how long it actually takes vs it's contemporaries - often long enough for help to arrive or make it back to friendly AA.
Spit9 pwns Shane's LA7, no perk necessary. Nuff said. :)
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Following this logic, ALL planes in the set would need to be perked.
Ah, the battle-cry of a weak argument. If so many agree, where are all the replies here agreeing with your proposal?
For the record, I agree it's an exceedingly good plane (and ideal for base defense), however it's probably not perk-worthy. I also agree it is a bit of a dweeb plane, easy to fly, extend and HO in. It has its deficiencies, particularly range – I believe due to some of the fuel compartments actually being dedicated to stowage for an assortment of shoes, purses and cocktail dresses. No need to make La-7 pilots lose perks when shot down, in addition to losing a collection of eveningwear.
You must be one of those LA7 dweebs then. LOL
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perk it!
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Spit9 pwns Shane's LA7, no perk necessary. Nuff said. :)
a6m2 owns spit9 nuff said
La7 is one of the top 5 planes based on speed, handling, climb, dive, flaps, guns, range. The F4u4 pwns it (f4u4 pwns everything tho), the spit16/F4u1A/C-hog is close tho.
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a6m2 owns spit9 nuff said
:huh Umm.... NO. :old: A6M easy kill when approached properly.
Flames nicely. :D
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You sure don't over use that line.
Of course I do. Sadly I have to as people so easily forget and go back to thinking this is really life and death. :aok
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:huh Umm.... NO. :old: A6M easy kill when approached properly.
Flames nicely. :D
so is a spit9.... my lala is 69 - 39 vs your spit 9 in 2011 (MidTanQua)
my lala vs all your flavors of spits (8,9,16) is 88-51
vs Spit9 69 - 39
vs Spit8 17 - 2
vs Spit16 2 - 10
I do not think the word "pwn" means what you think it means.
the only spit in your favor is the 16 after I first returned jan '11, when in the first few months you were able to get that 2 - 10 run.
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so is a spit9.... my lala is 69 - 39 vs your spit 9 in 2011 (MidTanQua)
my lala vs all your flavors of spits (8,9,16) is 88-51
vs Spit9 69 - 39
vs Spit8 17 - 2
vs Spit16 2 - 10
I do not think the word "pwn" means what you think it means.
the only spit in your favor is the 16 after I first returned jan '11, when in the first few months you were able to get that 2 - 10 run.
:old: Statistics mean nothing.
Subtract out the old months when I was much worse, subtract out your picks and afk kills.
We both know if you see my spit9, you expect pwnage which is why you often jump into a spit9 to fight me after your LA7 gets spanked a few times. Currently working on pwnage skills in my spit8 vs your LA7 but not quite there yet. Expect it soon though, soon indeed.
Point is LA7 doesn't need to be perked since yours is too easy to shoot down in my non perked aeroplane, as we both know. :)
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I don't think I have the problems with LAs that some seem to have. I don't know where yall get these charts so I can't tell for a fact.
I get shot down much more to other birds I'm sure.
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(http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/forum%20commentary%20pictures/ilikewhere2.jpg)
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I know I have said it a bunch of time - the La-7 always seems like a fairly easy kill to me, unless you come across someone like Shane who knows how to fly it. No need for it to be perked!
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:old: Statistics mean nothing.
Subtract out the old months when I was much worse, subtract out your picks and afk kills.
We both know if you see my spit9, you expect pwnage which is why you often jump into a spit9 to fight me after your LA7 gets spanked a few times. Currently working on pwnage skills in my spit8 vs your LA7 but not quite there yet. Expect it soon though, soon indeed.
Point is LA7 doesn't need to be perked since yours is too easy to shoot down in my non perked aeroplane, as we both know. :)
even looking at only oct - dec '11 it's still 23 - 12 vs your spit9, 31- 12 overall. Looks like I'm just getting better and better vs you as that rust peels off - now motivation otoh...
I jump into a spit9 to show you you're not all that as a turner (sorta like Hamr is going to be learning as time goes by. :aok ) I think I've also shown you that the spit9 can't really touch my lala unless I want to the play TnB at 140ias game. The lala *can* control the fight through speed - as you've also learned. :ahand
<edit> but more importantly, how many times have you died from an advantage compared to vice versa? well, to be fair, you've always been at a disadvantage simply for two reasons: you're in a spit, you're midway :neener: </edit>
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Well I am an Lavochkin dweeb and enjoy it....so I guess I have a vested interest to leave stuff as it is but with some 11,000 unused fighter perks (cos I never use them) it make no odds.
I know there are some players who consider the MA a place for "duelists" and really do not like it when their opponent (of lesser skill) can disengage rebuild his/her advantage and then re engage. The La7 allows this at a pretty basic level because the fight can have become quite close and protracted without the La7 pilot having had to fully commit to the do or die manouvre.
Once upon a time the La7 could dive away from combat at 12 to 17K and gain considerable separation. Now agin P51's, Spit16's, and any 109G6,14, K4 the La7 is out dived in a straight dive and whilst it can reach 500mph at that speed it has far less control authority than the above and so cannot out manouvre until it can slow the fight down to 250-300 and use its engine to gain angle and separation .
BTW a whole host of AC can now dive with (but not faster than) an La7 if Co E and both are at a high onset speed. (ie the dive acceleration is drag orienteted and not engine orientated).
Other than this its guns are not the best and its endurance is pretty poor.
BTW the best buff hunter IMO is the 109G14, upto 25K and the P47N above 25K.
However it does not meet the current perk criteria in the least.
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even looking at only oct - dec '11 it's still 23 - 12 vs your spit9, 31- 12 overall. Looks like I'm just getting better and better vs you as that rust peels off - now motivation otoh...
I jump into a spit9 to show you you're not all that as a turner (sorta like Hamr is going to be learning as time goes by. :aok ) I think I've also shown you that the spit9 cna't really touch my lala unless I want to the play TnB at 140ias game. The lala *can* control the fight through speed - as you've also learned. :ahand
:huh Lotsa loose talk and loose numbers. Fact is you run into my Spit9 (ex afk and picks), your LA7 dead roughly 90% of the time. Need I point to the film of four in a row LA7 kills landed in my Spit9 - again? I won't to avoid the "look at me" label.
The point is no perk needed, too easy to kill your "awesomesauce" LA7 in a non perky aeroplane. Too easy, indeed. :)
Btw, if you could show me my Spit9 is not all that in your LA7, you wouldn't have to subsequently up a Spit9 after leaving the dead wreckage of your LA7, would you now?
Now, nuff said. :aok
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I do not think the word "pwn" means what you think it means.
(http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/pbr_025Inconceivable.jpg)
INCONCEIVABLE!
edit: not gonna poke the idiot, Shane can argue with him if he wants... smells like bait to me.
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lol midway is hilarious....bragging about killing someone when all you fly is spits is straight up laughable.....until you learn to really fight, and not in the easiest plane to fly.... you are just making your self look like a tool.
ill take my 84 and whip on you some more if ya like. :aok
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Hey midtangzu,
Shane is slightly better than me. Last 10 times when we met, 109g vs spit8, you lost every single time if you werent picking my good fight with JanneK.
"Keep your forked toungue in your mouth, Grima."
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Hey midtangzu,
Shane is slightly better than me. Last 10 times when we met, 109g vs spit8, you lost every single time if you werent picking my good fight with JanneK.
"Keep your forked toungue in your mouth, Grima."
:huh No forked tongue. Agreed you do win a lot against me, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about need to or not perk LA7. Imho, you're better than Shane cause Shane is almost a certain victory for my Spit9 in his LA7, you not so much. Unless your g6 needs to be perked (not), no need to perk LA7 since it's a fairly easy kill for me even if Shane is flying it. :)
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no need to perk LA7 since it's a fairly easy kill for me even if Shane is flying it. :)
:lol
Going back to tour 144, the score stands at: Shane-14, Midway-2
Your argument is invalid.
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:lol
Going back to tour 144, the score stands at: Shane-14, Midway-2
Your argument is invalid.
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Going back to tour 144, the score stands at: Shane-14, Midway-2
Your argument is invalid.
Tour 144 my Spit9 killed Shane, he had no kills of my Spit9. You're looking at Spit8 stats which I am not talking about. I am still learning/practicing in my Spit8. Agreed that Shane (so far) owns my Spit8, but that will change soon enough.
Again the point is 1 on 1 ex afk and picks, my Spit9 pawns Shane's LA7 which is why he reups in a Spit9, therefore no need to perk the LA7 no matter who flys it. :)
:old: statistics are not relevant since they include afk, picks, and other distortions.
Shane's feeling of dread :uhoh and upcoming defeat upon sighting my Spit9 and his subsequent upping of a Spit9 is all i need to see, and enjoy. :)
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One of you needs to man up and demand a duel then.
You know, to settle this once and for all.
EDIT: Smart money is on Shane whipping you like a dazed pup.
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One of you needs to man up and demand a duel then.
You know, to settle this once and for all.
EDIT: Smart money is on Shane whipping you like a dazed pup.
Already posted film of four in a row 1 on 1 kills landed of my Spit9 vs his La7, but no need to go there again. :D
Working on Spit8 pwnage of Shane in the near future. :aok
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lol kills or no kills.... at the end of the day your still just in a spit. The best plane in the game for a new person.
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lol kills or no kills.... at the end of the day your still just in a spit. The best plane in the game for a new person.
:old: Indeed.
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Already posted film of four in a row 1 on 1 kills landed of my Spit9 vs his La7, but no need to go there again. :D
Working on Spit8 pwnage of Shane in the near future. :aok
Are you "savouring" the sweet short-lived flavor of victory again? Kinda like when you got a lucky kill on me, then refused to fight me again at that moment, so you could bask in the glow of your single victory? :rofl
Enjoy it, because I'm sure your DA session with Shane would go about like the next time I met you when I went 18-0 against your dweebfire before I finally went elsewhere looking for a real fight. :rofl
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Already stated, the a6m3 owns the spit9 in a turnfight. You turn with zeeks? No? If yes, you ever won one against someone who isnt a total newbie? Copy? Then shut it! The La7 vs spit9 is just like the spit9 vs a6m3.
Could you let a thread happen without ratting all around?? Sheesh, youre worse than manawar! DOH!
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Are you "savouring" the sweet short-lived flavor of victory again? Kinda like when you got a lucky kill on me, then refused to fight me again at that moment, so you could bask in the glow of your single victory? :rofl
Enjoy it, because I'm sure your DA session with Shane would go about like the next time I met you when I went 18-0 against your dweebfire before I finally went elsewhere looking for a real fight. :rofl
Did I say four in a row -- landed? :headscratch: Think I did.
Nuff said.
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Did I say four in a row -- landed? :headscratch: Think I did.
Nuff said.
Go to the DA and back it up, 1v1 outside of the MA, and show film of said pwnage, if you want to constantly brag.
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Go to the DA and back it up, 1v1 outside of the MA, and show film of said pwnage, if you want to constantly brag.
Don't want to do either.
:old: just saying no need to perk the LA7.
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lol midway is hilarious....bragging about killing someone when all you fly is spits is straight up laughable.....until you learn to really fight, and not in the easiest plane to fly.... you are just making your self look like a tool.
ill take my 84 and whip on you some more if ya like. :aok
You make no sense.....All Shane flies is an LA7 so what's the difference? If Midway shot you down in his "easy" plane then you are the tool....er...a...dead tool that is.
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just saying no need to perk the LA7.
No, you were calling out an individual and bragging about "pwnage" when in fact you're pretty much owned by him in all types.
You took a plane vs plane argument and took a shot at a person. All everyone else (through the laughter) is asking you to "put up or shut up."
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You make no sense.....All Shane flies is an LA7 so what's the difference? If Midway shot you down in his "easy" plane then you are the tool....er...a...dead tool that is.
Speaking of making no sense...... :headscratch:
Was that directed at Ink?
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No, you were calling out an individual and bragging about "pwnage" when in fact you're pretty much owned by him in all types.
You took a plane vs plane argument and took a shot at a person. All everyone else (through the laughter) is asking you to "put up or shut up."
Just giving my view based on experience with a supposedly among the best LA7 pilots. :angel:
:old: Spit9 pwnage of LA7 = no LA7 perkage necessary.
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You make no sense.....All Shane flies is an LA7 so what's the difference? If Midway shot you down in his "easy" plane then you are the tool....er...a...dead tool that is.
:rofl
I have seen Shane in more then just the LA :headscratch: and know for a fact he can get in any fighter and be dangerous..not so for mid.
ya he prefers that ride to fight the hoard tards...midway brags about flying the easiest plane in game to fly.....along side a bunch of green guys and thinks he is good :rofl
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:rofl
I have seen Shane in more then just the LA :headscratch: and know for a fact he can get in any fighter and be dangerous..not so for mid.
ya he prefers that ride to fight the hoard tards...midway brags about flying the easiest plane in game to fly.....along side a bunch of green guys and thinks he is good :rofl
Am not good - yet. :)
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Am not good - yet. :)
well get out of that damn spit and fight every chance you get, you will be there, those spits just teach ya bad habits. :old:
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Shane's feeling of dread :uhoh and upcoming defeat upon sighting my Spit9 and his subsequent upping of a Spit9 is all i need to see, and enjoy. :)
This is a little disturbing Midway. A true warrior is neither sadistic nor spiteful. Consider your ways :old:
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This is a little disturbing Midway. A true warrior is neither sadistic nor spiteful. Consider your ways :old:
Indeed. Considering way now. :frown:
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Midway's "logic":
In his Spitfire Mk IX pwns Shane's La-7 when you subtract the losses from when he wasn't good and if you take away the BnZ losses proving that the Spitfire IX is better than the La-7.
However, the A6M isn't better than the Spitfire Mk IX because you can just BnZ the A6M with the Spit IX.
Anybody see a tiny little flaw in this "logic"?
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Yes, but he is now considering his way.
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Go midway go! :rofl :aok
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Midway's "logic":
In his Spitfire Mk IX pwns Shane's La-7 when you subtract the losses from when he wasn't good and if you take away the BnZ losses proving that the Spitfire IX is better than the La-7.
However, the A6M isn't better than the Spitfire Mk IX because you can just BnZ the A6M with the Spit IX.
Anybody see a tiny little flaw in this "logic"?
Subtract when I was afk or picked while slowly turnfighting someone else. I have no problem with a BnZing LA7 or any kind of LA7 as long as I see it and pay attention to it. :)
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Don't want to do either.
:old: just saying no need to perk the LA7.
Man, talk about a wuss out.
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Man, talk about a wuss out.
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:huh Cause I like to fight in MA and don't wanna brag?
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Man, talk about a wuss out.
It is a spit pilot we're talking about.
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:huh. Cause I like to fight in MA and don't wanna brag?
:huh
Your entire stream of logic concerning the LA7 was based on a "brag."
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:huh
Your entire stream of logic concerning the LA7 was based on a "brag."
Experience. :)
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Subtract when I was afk or picked while slowly turnfighting someone else. I have no problem with a BnZing LA7 or any kind of LA7 as long as I see it and pay attention to it. :)
At altitudes below 10,000-15,000ft an La-7 BnZing a Spitfire Mk IX is no different than a Spitfire Mk IX BnZing an A6M. If the Spitfire Mk IX is superior to the La-7, then perforce the A6M is better than the Spitfire Mk IX.
As to the BnZ deaths being due to being AFK, well, either you're lying (most likely) or you have a severe problem with going AFK in combat zones.
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Experience. :)
Horse crap. You threw out the name. If you're gonna name names, provide the evidence to back up your bragging.
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have a severe problem with going AFK in combat zones.
this :frown:
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Horse crap. You threw out the name. If you're gonna name names, provide the evidence to back up your bragging.
Only threw out the name since he is among the best LA7 pilots and I have a good amount of experience fighting said pilot in my Spit9. :angel:
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:huh Cause I like to fight in MA and don't wanna brag?
No, it's because you utterly lack the balls to back up your claims against Shane. That is what makes you a wuss. If you didn't want to brag, you wouldn't have done it in this thread. Now that people are calling you on it, your nuts shriveled up into your stomach cavity and you're trying to dance your way out of the hole you dug yourself in.
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thought that was funny..."don't want to brag" but that's all he has been doing.......
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No, it's because you utterly lack the balls to back up your claims against Shane. That is what makes you a wuss. If you didn't want to brag, you wouldn't have done it in this thread. Now that people are calling you on it, your nuts shriveled up into your stomach cavity and you're trying to dance your way out of the hole you dug yourself in.
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I posted film with four in a row 1 on 1 kills (landed) already. Geeez.
The point is not Shane vs me, but whether the LA7 should be perked. I say no.
:old: now, nuff said.
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The point is not Shane vs me
But you went there anyway..... :huh
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But you went there anyway..... :huh
Was replying to Shane. Perhaps I should have said "an unnamed supposedly best among LA7 pilots"? :rolleyes:
Using the name of said supposedly expert LA7 pilot is much easier.
:old: Nuff said!
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I'm still back pedaling while my nuts continue to shrivel
Either duel Shane and prove your uber-Experten eliteness or see a doctor about putting your nuts back where they belong. All I hear is a eunuch making excuses as to why they won't back up their bragging.
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Either duel Shane and prove your uber-Experten eliteness or see a doctor about putting your nuts back where they belong. All I hear is a eunuch making excuses as to why they won't back up their bragging.
ack-ack
+1
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Ah. This has become one of those American cowboy things hasn't it?
"Pick up the gun".
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Ah. This has become one of those American cowboy things hasn't it?
"Pick up the gun".
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/popcorn.gif)
Let me help you out with this my friend.
We'll use this Marty Robbins classic to tell the tale. In our case Shane plays "Mr. Shorty", while Midway plays the part of "The Big One".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x6o_tBU8DU
Now there is silence in the bar.
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I'll have to play that music later Melvin, I started to play it, but then Mrs. Shida's head rotated slowly toward me with a rather menacing look, so I had to turn it off :rofl
I was thinking of this:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ6kMWA2WRk
You all saw him, Midway had a gun.
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This is a little disturbing Midway. A true warrior is neither sadistic nor spiteful. Consider your ways :old:
This is true... I mean look at the saints :rofl
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Each plane has it's own roll. The F4U4 is just as good as any of the F4's in the right hands, but rarely do you see it turn fighting or anywhere under 350 TAS for that matter.
My best guess is you lost a perk plane to an LA7 and you came here to talk about it. It's been like this forever, it doesn't need to be perked. Even if it were perked it would not change the amount of it being used (as it would only get a small perk), and people would fly even more timidly and faster than they do now.
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Each plane has it's own roll. The F4U4 is just as good as any of the F4's in the right hands, but rarely do you see it turn fighting or anywhere under 350 TAS for that matter.
My best guess is you lost a perk plane to an LA7 and you came here to talk about it. It's been like this forever, it doesn't need to be perked. Even if it were perked it would not change the amount of it being used (as it would only get a small perk), and people would fly even more timidly and faster than they do now.
I know that if I wanted a plane perked for shooting me down..... all planes would be perked. :D
PS including the goon :P
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ROFL Spikes, please post more. I have a hard time reading them from the drool rolling down my faace.. but man I am in love w/ your avatar :x
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Subtract when I was typing on ch200 at a rate of 200 words per minute or picked while slowly turnfighting someone else. I have no problem with a BnZing LA7 or any kind of LA7 as long as I see it and pay attention to it. :)
Fixed :aok
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I bet SHawk can school Shane with his lanc.............. :x
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I bet SHawk can school Shane with his lanc.............. :x
Its all in the mullet.
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Fixed :aok
Indeed.... another required adjustment. :aok
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Btw, if you could show me my Spit9 is not all that in your LA7, you wouldn't have to subsequently up a Spit9 after leaving the dead wreckage of your LA7, would you now?
Now, nuff said. :aok
any time you want to test the theory straight up 1 v 1 with no interference... you''ll lose if I choose fly in a way to dominate that spit. You only get guns on me because I play the game. How many times did you die sitting less than 800 off my 6? Quite a few...
Until you even acheive parity in a k/d vs me, you really should sit down, hush and consider your ways.
I have quite a few of films showing just how easy you are, especially to rope. Your defensive to offensive skills are practically non-existent.
When I have an advantgae, I rarely lose, especially to you. When you have an advantage, you lose more often than not.
How many of those 4 in a row did I give you again? :noid Did you ever come close to doing it again? Didn't think so. Did I totally dominate you in your spit8 and drive you back to the spit9 out of frustration? :aok
Here's another way to look at it... spit8 you are the suck vs me... spit9 you're somewhat better, guess this is one of those times when it *is* the plane after all.
Oct - Dec when you were in your "prime" in the spit9 and starting to transition to the spit8, my lala was still, again, 23-12. Pwnage happened, but not in the way you're thinking. :ahand
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Either duel Shane and prove your uber-Experten eliteness or see a doctor about putting your nuts back where they belong. All I hear is a eunuch making excuses as to why they won't back up their bragging.
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Not going to happen since Midway might win 1 round in a spit9 and lose 4 rounds to <randomly inserted aircraft here>.
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How many of those 4 in a row did I give you again?
You're in the habit of giving me four kills in a row and letting me land them.... uh huh.... :rolleyes:
:old: Nuff said.
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Subtract when I was afk or picked while slowly turnfighting someone else. I have no problem with a BnZing LA7 or any kind of LA7 as long as I see it and pay attention to it. :)
Yeah you do, but then I'm not just "any" LA7. You're easy to rope, actually.
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Midway is a pretty decent spitfire pilot and a very skilled troll.
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You're in the habit of giving me four kills in a row and letting me land them.... uh huh.... :rolleyes:
:old: Nuff said.
at least quote in context.
"How many of those 4 in a row did I give you again? Did you ever come close to doing it again? Didn't think so."
:aok
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Not going to happen since Midway might win 1 round in a spit9 and lose 4 rounds to <randomly inserted aircraft here>.
I know, it's just funny seeing the eunuch...err I mean Midway back pedal and make up excuses as to why he won't duel Shane.
On a side note...since Midway posted a thread about using a shade account to "take a 30 day break" I would suggest he pick the name "girldwn" as he obviously can't "man up" and back up his chest thumping in the DA against Shane.
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I know, it's just funny seeing the eunuch...err I mean Midway back pedal and make up excuses as to why he won't duel Shane.
On a side note...since Midway posted a thread about using a shade account to "take a 30 day break" I would suggest he pick the name "girldwn" as he obviously can't "man up" and back up his chest thumping in the DA against Shane.
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Man up requires ignoring the ego and losing a few times in the DA, in exchange you learn new things and evaluate your game style. Pretty sure Midway would school me in the DA in a spit 9 since I can't even remember dueling one before, usually
pick odd ball aircraft nobody's "good at", as everyone has a standard ride the ones who step out of the training wheels and step up into something else is where you learn to shine.
I generally don't even ask people to duel outside their main ride, I just choose whatever ride I feel comfortable in and duel - generally speaking going against someone like you in a 38 I'm going to lose, but the experience gained is what matters.
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Midway is a pretty decent spitfire pilot ...
:O I am not worthy. Grizz is an unbelievably awesome pilot (and also in a Spit9). I am but a toy to him. <3 Grizz :rock
Shane's LA7 on the other hand... well... nuff said already.
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Midway I command you to register for season 2 of the DFC dueling ladder!
time to start showing some strength through character :old:
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Midway I command you to register for season 2 of the DFC dueling ladder!
time to start showing some strength through character :old:
haha...I tried to get him to join before......he talks big...but his stick is very tiny :uhoh
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now now Ink, as his FPH original he must obey my command. Midway is all about the fight when he isn't trolling....
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Midway I command you to register for season 2 of the DFC dueling ladder!
time to start showing some strength through character :old:
Yes sir. :uhoh :cry :pray :cry :salute
But I am not good enough -- yet. I will go in and give it a shot though. :cry
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now now Ink, as his FPH original he must obey my command. Midway is all about the fight when he isn't trolling....
hahaha
wait a minute did he say he would try it??????
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thats the spirit. No losers here just more films to watch and learn from. :salute
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Yes sir. :uhoh :cry :pray :cry :salute
But I am not good enough -- yet. I will go in and give it a shot though. :cry
being good enough is not really the point.....its about
1-having good fights that don't happen in the MA
2-fighting guys that you don't normally get a chance too
3-learning as much as you can
4-having fun
NO FRIGGIN DRAMA THOUGH...that is the quickest way out the door.
I am gonna add ya to the forums...sign in to the Check in thread with BBS and ingame name.
welcome aboard :aok
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You guys have created the perfict shade account name for Midway: ManUp
A bit more agressive than ManPlsr.
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I'd go with vGina... those things can take a pounding.
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SanDusky will forever be the best shade. :bolt:
I think Midway has a crush on him. :D
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SanDusky will forever be the best shade. :bolt:
I think Midway has a crush on him. :D
He's quite good in a k4, shady name that he is. :cool:
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Who is sandusky!? :huh :joystick:
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I think Midway has a crush on him. :D
I think he has a crush on anyone that has testicles.
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I love Egos High errr Aces High. :banana: :neener:
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Midway is a pretty decent spitfire pilot and a very skilled troll.
For someone who was going into hiding for a month, he sure is loud and visible.
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I think he has a crush on anyone that has testicles.
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:lol Bruv would bot approve of adultery. Would you Bruv? :D
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He's quite good in a k4, shady name that he is. :cool:
I agree Midway. Very poor taste in names. I think that name is going a little overboard as he is looking for attention. :frown:
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:lol Bruv would bot approve of adultery. Would you Bruv? :D
If they can provide Middy with another source of inspiration for him to learn, improve and become a better person then by all means.
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Who is sandusky!? :huh :joystick:
Penn State (USA University) Former Assistant Football Coach who molested alot of kids. Google it. :frown:
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If they can provide Middy with another source of inspiration for him to learn, improve and become a better person then by all means.
I volunteer MegaDave. :D :banana:
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this thread went waaay off. . . in a heart warming better direction too may I add.
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If they can provide Middy with another source of inspiration for him to learn, improve and become a better person then by all means.
...and we both know these things are often inversely connected. Right Bruv?
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For someone who was going into hiding for a month, he sure is loud and visible.
Maybe his calendar broke?
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:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh
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There is also the town Sandusky, Ohio, though. It's the home of the amusement park Cedar Point, which has about 5 of the world's top 10 roller coasters, and home of a marvelous seafood shack called (I think) "The Old Sandusky Seafood Factory". Maybe he's from there. If not, well . . .
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First coaster I ever rode was the Gemini at Cedar Point.
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There is also the town Sandusky, Ohio, though. It's the home of the amusement park Cedar Point, which has about 5 of the world's top 10 roller coasters, and home of a marvelous seafood shack called (I think) "The Old Sandusky Seafood Factory". Maybe he's from there. If not, well . . .
He's not Brooke. He has admitted to picking the name on purpose. He's looking for attention.
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He's not Brooke. He has admitted to picking the name on purpose. He's looking for attention.
So who is the shady name SanDusky (likely Pedobear before that)? :headscratch:
Btw I haven't seen Spikes playing in a while.... just saying. :noid
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As the old adage goes..."People want to perk what they can't shoot down."
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amen
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I don't fly the 190D. Make it perks.
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amen
Perk mountains, I ran into *2* last night clearing my 6 of vagabonds in buffs.
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Remember, perking fast airplanes just makes them run even more.
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Remember, perking fast airplanes just makes them run even more.
The obvious solution then is to triple perk earnings for flying fast planes.
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The obvious solution then is to triple perk earnings for flying fast planes.
Nah, that might slide into the "make them run more so that they can get the 1.25 perk multiplier for landing successfully" category.
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:bhead :bhead :bhead I know....but i cant tell. :ahand :ahand :ahand :ahand
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Nah, that might slide into the "make them run more so that they can get the 1.25 perk multiplier for landing successfully" category.
Landing a kill successfully. 1.25 of nothing is nothing.
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PLEASE PERK THE LA7
At last somebody has brought this up as a topic. :lol