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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Nathan60 on March 29, 2012, 09:25:20 AM
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Any thoughts on reviving this? Maybe tie in with FSO? I realize we pretty much already have the maps like this but on the other hand there is the AVA Axis and AVA Allied threads with nothing going on in them. Maybe advertise this as a decviation from Horde fest in the MA's?
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Repost of a part of something I meandered on in the general forum:
What I do advocate is … a series of events (or AN event) that would allow the history of WWII to be re-written from beginning to end. A combination of flight-sim and strategy game, if you will (not so unlike the ‘Axis and Allies’ board/pc game). Lets say it starts round about the time the U.S. enters the war (or shortly after – January, 1942) and runs until … well … one side or the other achieves the goals required to claim victory. That could be anywhere from 1942 (theoretically) to 1945 or 1946 or 1947, etc. The players representing the strategic leadership of either the Allies or the Axis would be in charge of determining not only strategic battle plans but allocating resources and even determining what areas of research and development will be pursued (the nicer toys would be more expensive to build).
(And here's where I advocate broadening the restrictions of modeling in the game - though I kinda doubt it would come to pass - not without a rather huge bribe of Scotch for Dale and avgas for Dale's plane.)
That’s where a possible difference in advocating what should be modeled comes into play. It would no longer be a matter of ‘the B-29 is the best bomber for any chess piece on the Pizza map.’ It becomes ‘what was modeled and made in WWII that would have offered parity, had it been practical to produce and operate in larger numbers.’ A German heavy bomber, an Italian bomber, period, an allied jet fighter – if such a huge ‘Axis versus Allies’ event could be carried off, the research options and production potentials would require some of the roads not taken to be available. Well, except for the bomb. Though I suppose that could be incorporated into the event not so much as it being modeled but certain advances being made that could determine if one side or the other develops it then, well, they win.
Well …. enough rambling for now (and yeah, that’s really all it was).
*Bearing in mind HTC's stated limitations.
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BAh disreguard
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actually we're planning on something that we would like to do, that's just like that. we just haven't fleshed out the details yet. to nathan, its in the works, we just haven't worked out all the details yet.
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An updated and modified version of MrFork's list of AH aircraft, vehicles and boats (and potential) and their service dates:
Aircraft and Vehicle Service Dates of currently modeled AHII units
By nationality, chronology and theater
Aircraft
USA
1941
B-25C ... 1-41
P-40B ... 1-41
P-40E ... 8-41
F4F-4 ... 9-41(ETO)
P-39D .... 10-41(ETO)
C-47A ... 12-41
1942
P-39D .... 4-42(PTO)
A-20G ... 5-42
P-39D .... 5-42(EF)
B-26B ... 5-42
F4F-4 ... 5-42(PTO)
P-38G ... 11-42
1943
F4U-1 ... 2-43(PTO)
TBM-3 ... 2-43
P-47D-11 ... 3-43(D5)
B-24J ... 5-43
SBD-5 ... 5-43
B-17G ... 6-43
F4U-1A ... 7-43(PTO)
P-39Q ... 10-43 (PTO)
P-39Q ... 11-43 (EF)
P-38J ... 12-43(ETO)
P-51B ... 12-43(ETO)
1944
P-39Q ... 1-44 (MTO)
P-47D-11 ... 1-44(D11)
P-38J ... 2-44(PTO)
F4U-1 ... 4-44(ETO)
P-47D-25 ... 5-44
P51D ... 5-44(ETO)
B-29 6-44
FM-2 ... 6-44(ETO)
P-38L ... 7-44
P-38L ... 7-44
F6F-5 ... 7-44
P-51B ... 8-44(CBI)
B-25H ... 9-44
FM-2 ... 10-44(PTO)
1945
P-47D-40 ... 1-45(ETO)
P51D ... 1-45(CBI&PTO)
F4U-1D ... 1-45
F4U-1C ... 4-45
F4U-4 ... 4-45
P-47N ... 6-45
Britain
1940
Hurricane Mk I ... 5-40
Spitfire Mk IA ... 8-40
Boston MK III ... 5-41
1941
Hurricane IIC ... 4-41
Spitfire V ... 4-41
1942
Lancaster III ... 3-42
Hurricane IID ... 6-42
Spitfire Mk IX ... 7-42
Seafire IIC ... 10-42
1943
B-25H 7-43
Mosquito Mk VI ... 7-43(ETO)
Spitfire VIII ... 7-43
Mosquito Mk VI ... 11-43(PTO&CBI)
Seafire IIC ... 11-43(ETO)
Typhoon IB ... 11-43*
1944
Mosquito B.XVI ... 1-44(ETO)
Spitfire Mk XIV ... 5-44
Tempest V ... 5-44
Spitfire Mk XVI ... 7-44
1945
Spitfire Mk XIV ... 7-45(CBI)
Finland
1940
B-239 Brewster ... 3-40
Soviet Union
1940
I-16... 1-40*
1942
Il-2 Type 3 ... 10-42
1943
Yak-9T ... 1-43
La-5FN ... 3-43
1944
La-7 ... 6-44
Yak-9U ... 7/8-44
Italy
1941
C.202 ... 11-41
1943
C.205 ... 1-43
Japan
1940
A6M2 ... 7-40
B5N2 ... 7-40
D3A-1 ... 7-40
1943
Ki-61 ... 6-43
A6M5b ... 8-43
1944
Ki-67 ... 4-44
Ki-84-la ... 8-44 (CBI)
Ki-67 ... 4-44
KI-84-la ... 10-44(PTO)
1945
N1K2-J ... 1-45
Germany
1939
JU-87 9-39
1940
Bf 109E-4 ... 5-40
Bf 110C-4b ... 8-40
1941
Ju 88A-4 ... 5-41
Bf 109F-4 ... 6-41
Ar 234B ... 12-44
1942
Bf 110G-2 ... 5-42
Bf 109G-2 ... 6-42
1943
Bf 109G-6 ... 2-43
Fw 190A-5 ... 6-43*
1944
Fw 190A-8 ... 2-44
Fw 190F-8 ... 4-44
Bf 109G-14 ... 7-44
Me 163 ... 9-44
Bf 109K-4 ... 10-44
Me 262 ... 10-44
Fw 190D-9 ... 12-44
1945
Ta 152H ... 1-45
Vehicles
USA
1941
Jeep 1941
M-3 Halftrack...3-41
1942
M-8 ...9-42
M4A1 ...9-42(ETO)
1943
M-16 ...5-43
M4A1 ... 1-43(PTO)
LVT(A)2 ...2-44
LVT(A)4 ...3-44
1944
M4A3(76) ...7-44
M4A3 (75) (1944)
Britain
1944
Sherman VC ...6-44(ETO)
Germany
1940
SdKfz 251...6-40
1941
Panzer IV H 5-41
1942
Tiger I ...8-42
1944
Wirbelwind...4-44
Ostwind ... 8-44
Panzer IV Type H ... 8-44
Panther G 3-44
Tiger II 9-44
Soviet Union
1943
T-34/76 ... 2-43
1944
T-34/85 ...2-44
Boats:
US
1941
Elco 80' PT Boat (1941)
Ships:
US
1942
Essex Class CV (1942)
Not yet modeled (mentioned in AHWiki):
Aircraft
Britain
1940
Fairey Fulmar 5-40
Bristol Beaufighter 7-40
Hawker Sea Hurricane 7-40
Germany
1939
Heinkel HE-111 H 5-39
Italy
1938
Fiat G.50 (1938)
1940
Savoia-Marchetti SM.70 (torpedo) 7-1940
Japan
1938
Nakajima Ki-27 3-38
1941
Nakajima Ki-43 4-41
1942
Nakajima Ki-44 9-42
Russian
1940
Petlyakov Pe-8 (1940)
1941
Petlyakov Pe-2 2-41
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Thanks Arlo.
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+1, nice plane set compilations Arlo :salute
Love to see a revival of the Pacific Thunder setup in the I believe Coral Sea map with New Guinea and the A6m3.
Keep up the good work AvA staff!