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Title: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: PR3D4TOR on April 02, 2012, 04:24:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OGzTdtDHEw

Didn't know U.S. cars were that popular over there, and doesn't Clarkson always tell us how American cars can't handle the twisty stuff?  :cool:
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: RTHolmes on April 02, 2012, 04:42:44 PM
... 0m30s kinda proves him right  :uhoh
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: ozrocker on April 03, 2012, 07:09:05 AM
... 0m30s kinda proves him right  :uhoh
Oh yeah?
Here's a quality, safe, English "turner" :rofl :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8


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Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: RTHolmes on April 03, 2012, 08:45:46 AM
:D
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: jeep00 on April 03, 2012, 09:12:05 AM
I did some hillclimbs locally a bunch of years back, raced up Mt. Ascutney, part of the New England Hillclimb Association. Great fun, great people. Had Dan Rutan in the group too.
Ironically, I used a European car, my DD Audi 4000s. :)
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: RTHolmes on April 03, 2012, 10:26:24 AM
that must have involved heroic amounts of wheelspin and understeer :D
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: jeep00 on April 03, 2012, 10:40:52 AM
that must have involved heroic amounts of wheelspin and understeer :D

A whole lot of shifting, for sure.  :D
And understeer, not so bad because it is a hillclimb, a little off the throttle and a light tap on the brakes and the front dips in nicely, turn in hard when the front dips, shift and mash the throttle and push it through the turn. I loved that car.

Bob
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: RTHolmes on April 03, 2012, 10:54:05 AM
yup, drive FWD at anything over 7/10ths and you have to learn the art of trailbraking pretty quick :aok
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: jeep00 on April 03, 2012, 11:07:56 AM
yup, drive FWD at anything over 7/10ths and you have to learn the art of trailbraking pretty quick :aok

Mine was the Quattro, so even more so. Same engine, heavier car. Should have caught that with the wheelspin comment, mine would only chirp on takeoff if I really hammered it. I had fun though. Go figure the system, it was a stock class, so lots of things were "modifiers" to break up stock classes. Ultimately, I was in the same class as the Dodge Neons. They tore me up. I wasn't last though, but it took really hammering on the car. But, it took it great. Saw more Neon's getting worked on than I ever did to my Audi.  :D
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: RTHolmes on April 03, 2012, 11:22:01 AM
ahhhhh ok a quattro, so you'll appreciate my amusement at the idea of a fwd 80 hillclimbing ;)

my dad had an 80, it was like driving a steam loco even in the dry - only 50% throttle until it got moving. you'd think with all that weight slung out infront of the axle it would at least have some traction ...
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: jeep00 on April 03, 2012, 11:35:20 AM
ahhhhh ok a quattro, so you'll appreciate my amusement at the idea of a fwd 80 hillclimbing ;)

my dad had an 80, it was like driving a steam loco even in the dry - only 50% throttle until it got moving. you'd think with all that weight slung out infront of the axle it would at least have some traction ...

 :rofl
Yeah, they were something.

But back for the OP, they DO have this stuff over here, and they DO run American cars in it. Hell, my father in law ran his 1989 Grand Voyager Turbo (oops, his was the Canadian one, even had a metric speedo....um, the van, not him.....ewwww....) and a Dodge Shadow.
But I wouldn't say Clarkson is wrong, I am sure the rigs in those runs you saw were not US or even original spec suspensions.
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: RTHolmes on April 03, 2012, 12:12:44 PM
beasting its way up Shelsey Walsh (with a pretty decent time):

(http://www.tobymoody.co.uk/top12website/Top12RunOff/Photos/Pages/SHELSLEY_August_2009_files/Media/IMG_2057/IMG_2057.jpg)

:aok
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: jeep00 on April 03, 2012, 02:21:33 PM
beasting its way up Shelsey Walsh (with a pretty decent time):

(http://www.tobymoody.co.uk/top12website/Top12RunOff/Photos/Pages/SHELSLEY_August_2009_files/Media/IMG_2057/IMG_2057.jpg)

:aok

THAT is a lovely automobile.  :aok
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: PR3D4TOR on April 03, 2012, 02:45:30 PM
beasting its way up Shelsey Walsh (with a pretty decent time):

(http://www.tobymoody.co.uk/top12website/Top12RunOff/Photos/Pages/SHELSLEY_August_2009_files/Media/IMG_2057/IMG_2057.jpg)

:aok

Very nice!  :aok
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: PR3D4TOR on April 03, 2012, 02:57:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76aiCMKRI_g&NR=1

Even when you have a great handling car it's not a guarantee you won't screw up.  :huh  :uhoh
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: clerick on April 03, 2012, 04:07:22 PM
I did some hillclimbs locally a bunch of years back, raced up Mt. Ascutney, part of the New England Hillclimb Association. Great fun, great people. Had Dan Rutan in the group too.
Ironically, I used a European car, my DD Audi 4000s. :)

IMiss my 4KQ. Neighbours house burned down and it scorched the shell beyond repair. I found another one with a blown motor for $200 and started swappping all my stuff (turbo conversion, delrin bushings etc) before it was stolen :( I had almost 275 bhp at the wheels... First gear was waaaay to short though.
Title: Re: European hill climbing in American cars
Post by: Rob52240 on April 04, 2012, 04:18:10 AM
Very nice.
Clarkson Detroit V8 hill climbing in Iceland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vg1yQflH0U

Clarkson experiencing G-force in a Yank powerboat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egiYvCyHVcI