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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: HamrDown on April 05, 2012, 11:27:10 AM
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I dont know about anyone else, but I am tired of getting in collisions, especially when I am avoiding them and the enemy plane makes a turn into me while HO'ing and I get either killed, or damaged enough to crash or have to ditch while the enemy just flys away! In Air Warrior, back in those days, the collision model was not enabled and the game was more fair as to air to air combat. I can avoid a HO for the most part, but I am really tired of being rammed and see other plane just fly away undamaged...its BS. :bhead
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See rule #4
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reserved.
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I dont know about anyone else, but I am tired of getting in collisions, especially when I am avoiding them and the enemy plane makes a turn into me while HO'ing and I get either killed, or damaged enough to crash or have to ditch while the enemy just flys away! In Air Warrior, back in those days, the collision model was not enabled and the game was more fair as to air to air combat. I can avoid a HO for the most part, but I am really tired of being rammed and see other plane just fly away undamaged...its BS. :bhead
I like collision because they happened in RL. I wish collisions were turned on for friendlies so we would fly a little more carefully, once off the runway or spawn 10 ft behind a friendly sitting on the runway spawn.
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With time you will collide less. And when you will do, you will know why!
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Break away earlier. D600 - start Looking for a direction to break. D400 - turn your plane in that direction but still keep your plane opposite to the enemy's. D200 - break.
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I dont know about anyone else, but I am tired of getting in collisions, especially when I am avoiding them and the enemy plane makes a turn into me while HO'ing and I get either killed, or damaged enough to crash or have to ditch while the enemy just flys away! In Air Warrior, back in those days, the collision model was not enabled and the game was more fair as to air to air combat. I can avoid a HO for the most part, but I am really tired of being rammed and see other plane just fly away undamaged...its BS. :bhead
I don't see any issue.
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With time, practice and patience, you will be able to fly smarter yet still aggressively and be able to avoid collisions. Remember, you only take damage from a collision if the game on your computer sees a collision.
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i have tried to turn at D1000 and still get rammed. I know it is on purpose most times by a heavier built plane. Perhaps the enemy plane is low on fuel or ammo and wants to just ram me to take me out. But the fact that they dont get killed and I do is the REAL issue. Lets be real here...two prop planes fly at 300mph at each other, lets say a few Pipers, they collide...do you really think one would just keep on flying? Heck no! Both planes go down and both pilots would die!
To fix this...IF planes collide in AH, both planes go down and the pilots die. This would help the game a lot and people would not HO as much or ram on purpose.
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mate there is an extensive thread about collisions still ongoing in the wishlist, I suggest you post over there any request of yours.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,331468.0.html
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i have tried to turn at D1000 and still get rammed. I know it is on purpose most times by a heavier built plane. Perhaps the enemy plane is low on fuel or ammo and wants to just ram me to take me out. But the fact that they dont get killed and I do is the REAL issue. Lets be real here...two prop planes fly at 300mph at each other, lets say a few Pipers, they collide...do you really think one would just keep on flying? Heck no! Both planes go down and both pilots would die!
To fix this...IF planes collide in AH, both planes go down and the pilots die. This would help the game a lot and people would not HO as much or ram on purpose.
Pull some neg-G before the merge. Problem solved.
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Pull some neg-G before the merge. Problem solved.
True and good idea. Still, it is unrealistic that two planes collide at 300mph and one flys off without hardly any damage. Come on!
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True and good idea. Still, it is unrealistic that two planes collide at 300mph and one flys off without hardly any damage. Come on!
Colisions have a 50/50 chance for either epic win or fail. I would really like for AH to code somethin with Colisions to be alot more like rise of flights model.
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True and good idea. Still, it is unrealistic that two planes collide at 300mph and one flys off without hardly any damage. Come on!
Actually it's four planes. You were one of the two that collided. The one that flew away was one of the two that didn't.
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Having no collisions would result in gamey things like machine gun armed aircraft flying through their targets, guns blazing. It would also encourage more HOs, particularly from machine gun armed aircraft.
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So even though on my computer screen I avoided the collision by 10ft and on your computer screen you saw/suffered a collision, you think that I should be killed/damaged also; even though I saw myself flying through empty air?
It has been said many times by even hitech himself, the current collision model is the fairest way to handle collisions in game until such a time that internet lag is completely eleminated.
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True and good idea. Still, it is unrealistic that two planes collide at 300mph and one flys off without hardly any damage. Come on!
You need to understand the internet.
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You need to understand the internet.
Ask yourself what would Al Gore do?
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Actually ramming a plane is much harder to do than you think. At least in my opinion. And I used to try to ram enemy planes in the Training Arena when they would venture near Bishop's A1, the main training base. Of course that was before I was accepted into the AH Trainer Corps and I got to use that wonderful .eject command. Of course now they most likely use .ground [gameID] instead.
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Dear HiTech, please do not turn of collisions.
Thank you
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but I am tired of getting in collisions
I know that WW2 pilots didnt like AAA or enemy fighters either. Should we do away with those too? How about fuel and ammo limits? sunglare? How about instead we get rid of the in-flight 360 degree dot radar instead? you know, something that actually is gamey and completely unhistorical. You want a dar update? ask a player in the tower. :bolt:
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when i started playing the game i would ram and try to ho every single plane i saw. it was the only way i could get kills. I quickly discovered that the 109 had a higher chance of surviving a head on crash that any other plane. now i just ho and try to avoid a ram unless i am out of ammo and the other guy needs to go down.
but as annoying as getting hit by a plane that flies away undamaged now It would be a bad idea to remove collisions. for one i use those for those pesky planes that think the safest thing is to do is ho a b26. I just aim at them pull the trigger till they are either dead then ram them just to make sure, i survive about 95% of all collisions. and most damage is from bullets and not the collision itself
semp
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Lol semp....
Can you imagine of collisions were off.... a 262 guns blazing flys wingtip to wingtip through a B17 wrecking havoc on all the components as it flys through the wire frame. lol... I would not have lost that 262 on Saturday if that were the case....
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I managed to bring down a Ju-88 with a collision once. I caught his right wing with my right vertical stabilizer, we both lost the piece that got hit in the collision.
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I have found if I don't run into stuff I don't take damage. Pretty simple really, though difficult to understand to some.
Hamrdown, I take damage from collisions about once a month. My secret is to avoid them. Sure, it happens, but if happening to you more than once in a while, the issue isn't the game, it's your flying style.
The AK's are flying knights this month, so if you would like, look me up, and we can go to the TA and I can help you learn to avoid things. I'll be on this evening for a bit. My in game name is AKMeathd.
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Ah a young pilot... ;)
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The AK's are flying knights this month,
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Poo, VMF-222 switched to Rooks, was great flying with you all last month mate :salute
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Poo, VMF-222 switched to Rooks, was great flying with you all last month mate :salute
Thanks for the warning... I will be on the look out for the 30K 47-N :bolt:
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-1 on the no collision. :salute
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haven't seen it posted in awhile
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(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3316/collision1.png)
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Lusche's animation is the best setup for this.
(http://www.gstelmack.com/Collision.gif)
This is two players BOTH filming a collision. The P47 is flying strait and level so BOTH films are layed over each other placing the P47 in the same spot. Watch as the pony closes in. From one players view the pony NEVER got any where near hitting the others, however the other player's computer detected a collision and so marked it as such.
If you were watching the pony closing in and before you thought he was even close your plane falls apart and falls from the sky. :rolleyes: Personally I'd rather have my own fate in my own hands and work to AVOID hitting other planes instead of just having my plane fall out of the sky because some one flew by close.
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both planes should go down - latency or no
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both planes should go down - latency or no
So you would be happy to have a plane merge with you, you take him down your left side with a good 4 wing span spacing between the two of you and you lose a wing and go down with out firering a shot or starting a maneuver?
I don't think so. Until there is faster than light internet this is the best your going to get with YOU being in control with your plane and being able to avoid the other one.
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Lusche's animation is the best setup for this.
(http://www.gstelmack.com/Collision.gif)
This is two players BOTH filming a collision. The P47 is flying strait and level so BOTH films are layed over each other placing the P47 in the same spot. Watch as the pony closes in. From one players view the pony NEVER got any where near hitting the others, however the other player's computer detected a collision and so marked it as such.
If you were watching the pony closing in and before you thought he was even close your plane falls apart and falls from the sky. :rolleyes: Personally I'd rather have my own fate in my own hands and work to AVOID hitting other planes instead of just having my plane fall out of the sky because some one flew by close.
Really good example of lag and how it pertains to online gaming.
Not to get too far off topic, but back in the mid 90's... I used to play Mechwarrior 2 Mercs online... over dialup. Understanding lag and how it works was critical. A tactic called "lag shooting" was developed back then. Once you figured out how much lag there was between your opponent and yourself... you would simply over compensate your lead on the target to shoot at where he "really" was (or was going)... not where he appeared to be.
At least AH has that built into the client side so where you see your target, is where you shoot, and if you hit him on your screen, he takes the damage.
Can you imagine the whines of people now if they had to learn to lag shoot... and do it for 10 - 20 different opponents in the sky at the same time... all with a different latency?
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you guys should see the lag in world of tanks. it makes what's his name have the fastest connection when compared to some guys that play wot.
semp
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ok, I need a cookie. . . and I retract my previous statement.
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You need to think about the kind of merge you are going to accept.
Icons are visible from 6k, plenty of time to get yourself organised.
The colision model is fair to both. Understand the issue of unavoidable internet lag.
Probably not the best of ides to fly straight into someones guns/plane anyway
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I thought that a "top spitfire" pilot would easily be able to avoid collisions, seeing as how manuverable a spit is...
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+1 On Just Turn Off Collision
Thank you.
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I thought that a "top spitfire" pilot would easily be able to avoid collisions, seeing as how manuverable a spit is...
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:old: Indeed
If one wanted to. :D
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I thought that a "top spitfire" pilot would easily be able to avoid collisions, seeing as how manuverable a spit is...
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not when a plane collides with you from behind but it's only seen on your front end. that's how most of my collisions are.
semp
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I only remember one collision that annoyed me. I spawned onto runway and got a "You have collided" message and killed by a guy vulching.
I hadn't moved...the engine was still spinning up. I know the bullets killed my plane but the guy must have flown right through me!
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i have tried to turn at D1000 and still get rammed. I know it is on purpose most times by a heavier built plane. Perhaps the enemy plane is low on fuel or ammo and wants to just ram me to take me out. But the fact that they dont get killed and I do is the REAL issue. Lets be real here...two prop planes fly at 300mph at each other, lets say a few Pipers, they collide...do you really think one would just keep on flying? Heck no! Both planes go down and both pilots would die!
To fix this...IF planes collide in AH, both planes go down and the pilots die. This would help the game a lot and people would not HO as much or ram on purpose.
+1 IN :salute
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I would like to see it changed so that when someone collides with you and dies themself but you live you get credit for the kill as if you had landed some pings..
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