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Title: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Dover on April 05, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
yes i can see now people complaining about any bomber coming of a carrier but if you do it like doolittle did it historically accurate and useful
they made alot of mods to the aircraft to make it do this one of which was changing its defenses by removing some of the guns

now i can see people complaining about having bomber runs off of carriers but still its something they did and AH always says they are seeking historical accuracy
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Noir on April 05, 2012, 11:40:49 AM
the historical accuracy of Do little is that it happened only once and that the planes were field modified, so it won't happen in the main arena.

However, once a year, they do run an event the special events arena that simulates this specific mission.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: titanic3 on April 05, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
David Wales reincarnated?
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Dover on April 05, 2012, 11:47:03 AM
and the ME-163 flew how many times in war????
its record was 16 air victories for 10 losses,
you might arguee 300 of the 163 where built but they only flew a total of 30 times in combat
why do we include some things that where done and very rarely used to not others
this goes along with my kamakazii idea the point is it was done and if you going to include things that where used less often with far less effect why not do things that would be fun and add other tactics to the game
who cares i hate those planes so much
this
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Noir on April 05, 2012, 11:51:49 AM
the B25 is not a carrier plane

Kamikaze is not a tactic, its an act of desperation. Grab any plane loaded with bombs, drop them just before you crash like a two weeker on the carrier deck, and that's it, you've done Kamikaze, you're the man.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Volron on April 05, 2012, 11:52:02 AM
I say YES to the TB-3. :D It does meet the requirements to be included. :x
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Dover on April 05, 2012, 12:00:31 PM
did the b25 launch from the carrier yes it did
it was a modified version
where there plans to do it again yes there where
just cause it only happened once doesn't mean anything
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Noir on April 05, 2012, 12:11:17 PM
did it land on a carrier? Can it be stored in a carrier? Does it have an arrestor hook and reinforced landing gear?
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Dover on April 05, 2012, 12:12:52 PM
it was stored on the deck
if you wanna make it more realistic make it so only 15 can up off a carrier each time it spawns and then no more
the plan was never to land on the carrier but to continue on
not that it matter ive put a Lancaster down on a carrier in game play
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: lyric1 on April 05, 2012, 12:34:17 PM
Been asked for before over the years & it has not happened yet I doubt it will happen now.
When the B-25 first came out you could up off of a CV the practice was pointless though with all the late war aircraft just waiting out of the CV ack for them to come ashore most people just stopped upping.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Karnak on April 05, 2012, 12:49:07 PM
The TBM-3 is a more capable bomber than the B-25 you are describing.  Just use it.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: tunnelrat on April 05, 2012, 12:56:59 PM
How about fly a TBM and carry 4x500 lb bombs... just like the Doolittle raiders carried?

Oh, and you don't have to give up any guns =)
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: FLS on April 05, 2012, 01:12:04 PM
and AH always says they are seeking historical accuracy

So you're saying you're not a new poster, you've been around for a while?

Is there a reason you can't post under your old forum name(s)? Just curious.  :)
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Dover on April 05, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
i've read the forums never posted
just had these ideas in my head a while and thought id finaly put them out there
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: fuzeman on April 05, 2012, 01:44:36 PM
No Comedy Channel tonight for me!!
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Pigslilspaz on April 05, 2012, 02:23:18 PM
Sorry Dover, but chances are highly likely it will be a no. HTC have said that they won't add variants that were field mods, which is what the Doolittle B-25's were. They were very much modified, and therefore will most likely never be added. If they did add field-mod variants, I'd be asking for the over 9,000 variants of Bf-109's.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: FLS on April 05, 2012, 02:26:06 PM
i've read the forums never posted

 :lol

First name Ben?   :D

You can land B-25s on a CV now and re-arm them so
another wish granted!
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Shuffler on April 05, 2012, 03:18:10 PM
i've read the forums never posted
just had these ideas in my head a while and thought id finaly put them out there

It never hurts to air your idea. Better than having a great idea that never sees the light of day.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Tupac on April 05, 2012, 03:23:56 PM
Why are you flaming him? He doesn't need that. A simple "No" would suffice. If someone posts something you don't agree with, there is no need to be a turd.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: morfiend on April 05, 2012, 03:53:51 PM
 Unfortunately we dont have the correct model B25,IIRC they used "C" model B25's and we dont have 1.


  However usually on the aniversery of the Doolittle raid the event is recreated in 1 of the SEA arenas so knock yourself out and join the event.




   :salute
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: lyric1 on April 05, 2012, 05:53:42 PM

  However usually on the aniversery of the Doolittle raid the event is recreated in 1 of the SEA arenas so knock yourself out and join the event.

Or you can get the next best thing here in Urbana Ohio.

http://www.champaignaviationmuseum.com/Grimes_Gathering_of_B-25s.php

http://www.urbanaohio.com/grimes-field/upcoming-events.html

Looking forward to them coming back again last time was fantastic 19xB-25's taking off at sunrise.

Got to fly waist gunner on one:aok


http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,285584.0.html
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: FLS on April 05, 2012, 08:51:05 PM
Unfortunately we dont have the correct model B25,IIRC they used "C" model B25's and we dont have 1.


  However usually on the aniversery of the Doolittle raid the event is recreated in 1 of the SEA arenas so knock yourself out and join the event.




   :salute

We have the C, Doolittle used the B model.  If you believe Wiki.  :aok
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Dover on April 05, 2012, 08:57:18 PM
you figure it was early in the war so you figure its the b but who knows
let email doolittle and find out
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Tupac on April 05, 2012, 09:09:22 PM
you figure it was early in the war so you figure its the b but who knows
let email doolittle and find out

It was the b model. If you are also vDover in the game I can't say I'm suprised.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: FLS on April 05, 2012, 09:13:03 PM
you figure it was early in the war so you figure its the b but who knows
let email doolittle and find out

When you get the email address you can ask if it was really aircraft #40-2344 or if that's just an elaborate practical joke.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Full Metal Jug on April 05, 2012, 09:29:20 PM
I'm against the idea. If a bird can not fit underneath the flight deck it has no buisness on the carrier. Sure the B-25s took off, but they couldn't land and they'd never take off from a carrier AGAIN. Same thing with all of the P-47s, they were loaded on by crane they could take off but didn't have a tail hook therefore they're invalid aswell.

Here's my two cents

If the wings don't fold, it has no tail hook, and it can't fit beneath the flight deck, it has no buisness.

I'd love the Doolittle idea, but it would be abused and incorrect.

-FMJ

P.S. Is your first name Ben?
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Vadjan-Sama on April 06, 2012, 01:06:38 AM
yes i can see now people complaining about any bomber coming of a carrier but if you do it like doolittle did it historically accurate and useful
they made alot of mods to the aircraft to make it do this one of which was changing its defenses by removing some of the guns

now i can see people complaining about having bomber runs off of carriers but still its something they did and AH always says they are seeking historical accuracy

HTC said that they will never add field mods.. whats that? is a plane that was modified as originally it came out from the factory... why we have the me-163? cuz they liked it and was added like he was in the start, no field mods... the B25 never came out from the factorys as carrier plane so u'll never see it like one in here.

Is just easy as that, try to think a lil before posting another "reason" to add it.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: matt on April 06, 2012, 01:33:47 AM
Been asked for before over the years & it has not happened yet I doubt it will happen now.
When the B-25 first came out you could up off of a CV the practice was pointless though with all the late war aircraft just waiting out of the CV ack for them to come ashore most people just stopped upping.
i remember 1 time while back in ma b25 were enabled off cvs only for
1 day.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: earl1937 on April 06, 2012, 07:32:35 AM
yes i can see now people complaining about any bomber coming of a carrier but if you do it like doolittle did it historically accurate and useful
they made alot of mods to the aircraft to make it do this one of which was changing its defenses by removing some of the guns

now i can see people complaining about having bomber runs off of carriers but still its something they did and AH always says they are seeking historical accuracy
The two main reasons it won't work in AH, #1- There is no 40Kt wind to take off in, #2- with only "deck" storage area, they only had 40% of the carrier deck left for takeoffs. It was the "B" model and was not a standard issue B-25B! From what I have seen in my short time playing this game, Aces High only uses the most common variant of a particular aircraft, not any which had modifications to them.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: FLS on April 06, 2012, 08:43:43 AM
If you set up a custom arena you can enable the B-25 for CVs and you can set a 40 knot wind.  :aok
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: guncrasher on April 07, 2012, 01:21:50 AM
you guys forget that the main reason they cant add the b25 to the cv is because it would be so hard to code broomsticks as mg's like they did t in the movie pearl harbor.



semp
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: lyric1 on April 07, 2012, 07:35:14 AM
i remember 1 time while back in ma b25 were enabled off cvs only for
1 day.
I think a few maps were missed & you could still do this along with the P-39Q for a while afterwards.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: icepac on April 07, 2012, 08:55:44 AM
It sure is easier to find a reference to the B25s from the doolittle mission than it is to find reference to the P63 in combat.
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: Skull_001 on April 13, 2012, 07:19:51 PM
did it land on a carrier? Can it be stored in a carrier? Does it have an arrestor hook and reinforced landing gear?

CAN you land it on a carrier?
Yes if your crazy enough.
In VF17 we get bonus wings and brownie points for landing one hehe
Title: Re: b-25b doolittle style
Post by: icepac on April 14, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
I rearmed an AR234 on a cv the other day.