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Title: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Citabria on April 09, 2012, 06:34:31 AM
2d clouds are a bit dated they could use an upgrade.

with some turbulence when you go into them would be a plus.
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: PanosGR on April 09, 2012, 08:06:19 AM
plus 100+1 but dont see coming any soon
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Vudu15 on April 09, 2012, 08:07:54 AM
+1
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: B4Buster on April 09, 2012, 08:16:56 AM
Turbulance isn't associated with all clouds, but I agree. Some nice cumulus clouds with a bit of vertical development would be cool. Winds alot would also be nice, although I know it'll never happen in the MA*.

A bit off topic: I remember flying in the AvA when wind was set at different altitudes. It was a blast, and definitely made the game more immersive.
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Raphael on April 09, 2012, 08:47:27 AM
+100 for the clouds!
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: PanosGR on April 09, 2012, 09:15:32 AM
Its not only for the turbulence –which is great – its about somewhere you can hide when you are outnumbered or –why not- losing a dogfight. In 2D AH clouds there is no way you can hide
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: tunnelrat on April 09, 2012, 09:43:03 AM
+1000

Read any fighter jock accounts from WW2 and you will see clouds taking a leading role in almost every single case.

The easiest, quickest (OH LISTEN TO THE AH CODE EXPERT HERE!!), and lowest graphical impact (<-- this is probably true at least) would be to have clouds/cloud layers act as a shield by hiding or at least partially obscuring "dots" and completely negating icon/model/range indicators.

Meaning, at the very least a plane above the cloud layer would not see an icon for a plane below the cloud layer and vice versa.

Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Pand on April 09, 2012, 09:46:51 AM
I throw up a little bit in my mouth every time I fly through the current clouds.   +1M
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Wiley on April 09, 2012, 10:10:17 AM
Yes please.  Everything about the eye candy is good enough to be functional IMO, but the clouds could really stand a facelift.

Wiley.
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: tunnelrat on April 09, 2012, 10:53:25 AM
I throw up a little bit in my mouth every time I fly through the current clouds.   +1M

+1 for using "throw up in my mouth a little bit"
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Brownien on April 09, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
+1 for new clouds to zip through!
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Post by: USRanger on April 09, 2012, 04:52:11 PM
I think the clouds in AH1 actually looked better.  Just my opinion.
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Post by: Mitsu. on April 10, 2012, 01:21:47 AM
+1.

And Contrail/Vapor trail for eye candies.
It should be selected-able in graphics option.
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: SAJ73 on April 10, 2012, 02:28:00 AM
Clouds :aok, wind :aok, vapor trails :aok, I would even like some condense water hit the windshield as I flew through the clouds..  :O :aok
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Shuffler on April 10, 2012, 02:48:36 PM
...and clouds over islands. :D
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: 715 on April 10, 2012, 02:53:50 PM
I have a question: do any flight sims have clouds that look good from the outside as well as inside?  Clouds are inherently three dimensional, i.e. volumetric.  Graphic cards are inherently two dimensional, i.e. they render 3D objects as a collection of 2D polygonal planes.  There are no volumetric graphic cards; for example there is no such thing as a real time ray trace card.  So how do you make convincing volumetric clouds with current technology?
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: TWC_Angel on April 10, 2012, 03:18:44 PM
And for my first post ever, Check youtube for IL2: Cliffs of Dover or 1946. those are amazing cloud rendering and they appear volumetric. Havent a clue the work that goes in to it.. but that is a start.
Here is a link to a perfect example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHOWYhn3UbY  <----dog fight through clouds.
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: TDeacon on April 10, 2012, 04:43:31 PM
-1

From a purely selfish, personal perspective, I don't enjoy the flying in the few terrains which have areas of dense clouds.  It's hard enough to keep from being swamped by groups of other players as it is.  Just adds to the workload, realistic or not. 

So far as visual effect goes, I would like to see less contrast between the sky and the ground, and brighter ground colors.  When I log on in the evening, it is all too common to have the sun low in the sky, and the ground colors a dirty, dark brown-green.  I have to crank brightness up to 80-100 percent in order to have a chance of seeing stuff on the ground, especially in the "canyon-type" terrains, where the ground often in deep shadow.  Then the sky is too bright; can't be good for the eyes...  Actually, AH1 had prettier graphics on my system.  :-(

MH
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Vudu15 on April 11, 2012, 08:19:24 AM
I have a question: do any flight sims have clouds that look good from the outside as well as inside?  Clouds are inherently three dimensional, i.e. volumetric.  Graphic cards are inherently two dimensional, i.e. they render 3D objects as a collection of 2D polygonal planes.  There are no volumetric graphic cards; for example there is no such thing as a real time ray trace card.  So how do you make convincing volumetric clouds with current technology?

Rise of Flight...from about 1min 36 sec to 2 mins Im in clouds on the video I jumped this guy from a thick layer at 5K, spotted the flight through breaks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XLcg7IIv-c&list=UUADnOaV0-52prmVlAkLEZ_g&index=27&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XLcg7IIv-c&list=UUADnOaV0-52prmVlAkLEZ_g&index=27&feature=plpp_video)
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Butcher on April 11, 2012, 08:50:22 AM
If we can shut all the graphics off, then it wouldn't be an issue for someone with low end computers, I know because I was rock bottom with under 20 FPS all the time and still was fine even with bump maps.

I really want some upgraded clouds, many times I look at the clouds and wish instead of getting ganged 1vs4 I could simply climb into them and try to escape as so many did in WW2.

Puffy Clouds, clouds that have shapes, all kinds of clouds.

Remind me so much of sheep, I so miss them.
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: matt on April 11, 2012, 11:18:03 AM
+1
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: Arlo on April 11, 2012, 11:37:53 AM
If we can shut all the graphics off, then it wouldn't be an issue for someone with low end computers, I know because I was rock bottom with under 20 FPS all the time and still was fine even with bump maps.

I really want some upgraded clouds, many times I look at the clouds and wish instead of getting ganged 1vs4 I could simply climb into them and try to escape as so many did in WW2.

Puffy Clouds, clouds that have shapes, all kinds of clouds.

Remind me so much of sheep, I so miss them.

Then you go from incorporating something that takes a great deal of effort to code that porks the frame rate universally to a graphic feature (that still takes a great deal of effort to code) that can be turned off so you can see your opponent when they can't see you (which makes the eye candy that took all that effort to code a complete waste of time).
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: 715 on April 11, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
Rise of Flight...from about 1min 36 sec to 2 mins Im in clouds on the video I jumped this guy from a thick layer at 5K, spotted the flight through breaks.

I don't know, I didn't really see a puffy cloud from the outside that you flew into the inside.. I just kinda saw a sudden drop in fog distance and then a temporal variation.  AH already has fog distance built in- you can play with it off line under Arena Setup/Environment/Ranges.  Maybe HTC could keep the current clouds, but dynamically vary fog distance when the client detects you're inside a cloud.  Of course, detecting when you're "inside" a cloud might not be trivial.
Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: DrSlugger on April 11, 2012, 02:02:45 PM
We do need some new clouds. Then we can call some people Cloudtards/Cloud monkey.  :lol

Title: Re: I wish for new clouds
Post by: PanosGR on April 11, 2012, 03:25:50 PM
 :rofl