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Title: Damage model and control surface loading.
Post by: Tilt on April 16, 2012, 07:47:01 AM
Sort of a question and a wish.............

As wings and stabilisers receive damage is their G limit prior breaking point reduced in any way? If not I would  wish that it would be.........

e.g. If your graphics are showing holes in your inner wing then your inner wing failure threshold G has been reduced .............. approach the new lower G and you get the normal air frame stress noises (but at this new lower loading) maintain this loading and the wing fails (but at this new lower  loading)
Title: Re: Damage model and control surface loading.
Post by: Wiley on April 16, 2012, 09:55:09 AM
It doesn't at present time.  All parts are either functioning perfectly or gone.

+1 on this wish for sure.  It would also go nicely with gradually degraded performance on damaged control surfaces.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Damage model and control surface loading.
Post by: icepac on April 17, 2012, 10:49:18 AM
I've seen it implemented and it works well.

You get messages in the buffer that you're pulling more Gs than a damaged part can handle.

More than 3 messages and the part comes off.
Title: Re: Damage model and control surface loading.
Post by: JOACH1M on April 17, 2012, 12:38:15 PM
It doesn't at present time.  All parts are either functioning perfectly or gone.

+1 on this wish for sure.  It would also go nicely with gradually degraded performance on damaged control surfaces.

Wiley.
Im pretty sure that if you keep stressing you a/c it gets weaker ingame...
Title: Re: Damage model and control surface loading.
Post by: Wiley on April 17, 2012, 12:56:34 PM
Im pretty sure that if you keep stressing you a/c it gets weaker ingame...

I'm pretty sure it doesn't.  I routinely stress a couple planes doing certain maneuvers, and it always happens at the same point regardless of how shot up I am/how many times I do them on a sortie.  The specific quotes I've seen from HTC were with regard to control surfaces, but the impression I'd gotten was the same logic applies to things like wings.

I personally wouldn't want the 3 warnings then it goes.  It should be preceded by the stress noise at a lower G point, then break if you pull too far.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Damage model and control surface loading.
Post by: MK-84 on April 17, 2012, 09:54:19 PM
I'm pretty sure it doesn't.  I routinely stress a couple planes doing certain maneuvers, and it always happens at the same point regardless of how shot up I am/how many times I do them on a sortie.  The specific quotes I've seen from HTC were with regard to control surfaces, but the impression I'd gotten was the same logic applies to things like wings.

I personally wouldn't want the 3 warnings then it goes.  It should be preceded by the stress noise at a lower G point, then break if you pull too far.

Wiley.

I would swear I believed that specifically the A6M exibited structural weakness when damaged....about two years ago.  I remember flying it and taking some hits, and often performing maneuvers that I thought were "safe" just to snap a wing.  I was convinced that damage would waken the structure.  I no longer believe this to be the case, but it was always when I was pulling High G's (without blackout) and full rudder at the same time.  The new model does not exhibit this at all.  But I really thought that it was actually different from and undamaged to a damaged aircraft.
Title: Re: Damage model and control surface loading.
Post by: Tilt on April 19, 2012, 05:16:28 PM
IMO if damage did reduce the break point threshold then HTC would have said so by now. So I guess it's just a wish then.
Title: Re: Damage model and control surface loading.
Post by: JOACH1M on April 20, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
IMO if damage did reduce the break point threshold then HTC would have said so by now. So I guess it's just a wish then.
Maybe they missed the thread.  :noid