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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ozrocker on April 26, 2012, 05:21:00 AM
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I used to watch him all the time. He was an amazing Artist.
Just to watch his creativity. Sadly, he passed away a few years ago.
Just a short film of him starting a new painting, it's not whole show.
I recommend watching several. Wish I could paint lol.
http://youtu.be/MghiBW3r65M
:cheers: Oz
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I always loved watching him paint.
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I watched him on PBS alot.
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It was his voice, used to calm me down and help me fall asleep when I worked nights.
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Try William Alexander; same wet-on-wet technique, but with a firey German personality. Both he and Bob were entertaining in their own ways.
Short low-res sample of Bill's show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umr1SE2M8M)
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Oh hell yeah!
(http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad134/abdc916/2440c37f.jpg)
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anybody can paint the way he did, it is quite easy to learn.
its 100% technique.
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anybody can paint the way he did, it is quite easy to learn.
its 100% technique.
That was the entire point of his show.
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"Happy tree here... happy bush over there... and myabe a gentle wind effect here... there... a very happy scene."
It was neat watching him dream up some of the things he did.
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That was the entire point of his show.
yup :aok
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If you want an original you'll need to cough up a couple of grand.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stunning-Original-BOB-ROSS-OIL-PAINTING-w-COA-/270959854455?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item3f16774377 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stunning-Original-BOB-ROSS-OIL-PAINTING-w-COA-/270959854455?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item3f16774377)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Stunning-Original-BOB-ROSS-OIL-PAINTING-w-COA-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqZHJBQE9qmdGl47BPchiP!61w~~60_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Stunning-Original-BOB-ROSS-OIL-PAINTING-w-COA-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqZHJEIE88cr5F,8BPchw1Z,Dw~~60_57.JPG)
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Used to love stayin' home from school and watchin' Bob Ross on PBS. :aok
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I took a class they had here. One of his students gave it. I was the only guy there, felt a bit out of place, but I have to say, my painting was the best one :neener:
The techniques were easy to learn and made painting fun and easy for everyone.
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Watching the 1st season at the moment. Inspiring stuff. makes me want to go out and buy paint supplies (despite not really touching it before) lol
My regards
Phil
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I watched him on PBS alot.
Never heard of him.
:neener:
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I used to watch him all the time. He was an amazing Artist.
Just to watch his creativity. Sadly, he passed away a few years ago.
Just a short film of him starting a new painting, it's not whole show.
I recommend watching several. Wish I could paint lol.
http://youtu.be/MghiBW3r65M
:cheers: Oz
Use to watch him, bought his painting kit, tried to paint a pretty little tree next to a lovely little brook. He cool! Miss him.
:salute Bob Ross
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Loved his show. And I bet many here dont know he was once a drill sergeant.
"Ross was born in Daytona Beach, Florida, and attended school until the ninth grade.[2] Raised in Orlando, Florida,[3] Ross enlisted in the U.S. Air Force at age 18[2] and was living in Florida early in his military career when the Air Force transferred him to Eielson AFB (in Alaska), where he first saw the snow and mountains that later became recurring themes in his artwork; he developed his quick-painting technique in order to be able to create art for sale in brief daily work breaks.[4] Having held military positions that required him to be, in his own words, "mean" and "tough," "the guy who makes you scrub the latrine, the guy who makes you make your bed, the guy who screams at you for being late to work," Ross decided that if he ever moved on from the military, "it wasn't going to be that way any more," "vowing never to scream again".[4] Ross discovered after beginning his sideline in painting that he was soon able to earn more from selling his work than from his Air Force position. After leaving the Air Force, he studied with Bill Alexander before becoming famous worldwide with his own television program, The Joy of Painting.[1]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Ross
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Anyone remember the other artists show. I think the guy was German by his accent.
Basically his demeanor was the polar opposite of Rosses.
As opposed to Rosses softly spoken. "you put on happy little leaves"
this guy was more like
"Und you place ze leafs on ze trees like ziz! As he would stab the paint onto the canvas
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BOB Ross was a legend and no you couldn't paint like him ink
You are a scrub compared to him.
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i've seen your stuff and you are fine doing your thing but you are miles away from him.
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i've seen your stuff and you are fine doing your thing but you are miles away from him.
:rofl
if you say so I guess. :rolleyes:
big difference between what he painted and what I paint.... :aok
anyone can paint trees and mountains his style was all technique...
even the very best have a hard time painting realism, especially portraits....
until you know what you speak of..... to say anything just makes ya look like an idiot. :aok
I am far from conceded, but I was beyond him a long time ago.
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let me add, I like Bob I watched him as a kid and think he was awesome....
it is a fact, that what he did anyone can learn, he was all about teaching people that never painted before, and showing them how to do what he did.
what I do he could not do, and not just anyone can learn to do...I have never been to art school, I am a 100% self taught artist...
I would like to see him pull this off
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/ARTWORK/gecko-1.jpg)
or this
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/ARTWORK/izzy2003.jpg)
maybe these
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/ARTWORK/monitorfull.JPG1-1.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/ARTWORK/My_Greatwhite.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/ARTWORK/newestkids072.jpg)
or this done in Pen over 20 years ago
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/ARTWORK/n1263751988_30192346_6254356.jpg)
pfffft
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I am still seeing his stuff looks better than yours an hes a speed painter real photo artists you can't tell the difference between real and fake.
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Ink's artistic ability is incredible.
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Your artistic susceptibility is incredible
Honestly I've seen high school art teachers draw like him :)
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Your artistic susceptibility is incredible
Honestly I've seen high school art teachers draw like him :)
Draw like him, how so? Like with a brush? You are funny guy. :rofl
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Both are great artist BUT your comparing apples and oranges here.
Bob did natural scenes that are eye catching but lack a high level of detail at closer inspection. Ink does very high detail work that no doubt takes him a very lengthy time to make it the way he wanted.
Both styles are equally as beautiful but in different ways. Inks is something where you go wow I wonder how long he spent on that and Bobs is wow can you believe he did all that so quickly?
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Besides a couple at the state fair, who wants art that was sketched in a hurry? Meticulous detail is much more important.
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Ink, try a Bob Ross type scene (mountains, lakes, trees, a cabin and a path, etc) and let's see what it looks like. Just curious.... not interested in who is better... just would like to see your version. :rock
I'm sure both are amazing. :aok
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Seriously inks pretty good but hes no where near a portrait artist.
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Ink's pretty good enough to make a living off his artwork in one way or another. Wish i was so fortunate :)
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Ink, try a Bob Ross type scene (mountains, lakes, trees, a cabin and a path, etc) and let's see what it looks like. Just curious.... not interested in who is better... just would like to see your version. :rock
I'm sure both are amazing. :aok
ive done them in the past, no interest in that style, unless I was gonna do a tat of it.
thing is I can draw, paint, sculpt, carve..... anything.....any style.... any genre....
I am not the best, never professed to be, I just know what I can do.....and people don't wait 10 years for a piece of your art if your aren't good.
Both are great artist BUT your comparing apples and oranges here.
Bob did natural scenes that are eye catching but lack a high level of detail at closer inspection. Ink does very high detail work that no doubt takes him a very lengthy time to make it the way he wanted.
Both styles are equally as beautiful but in different ways. Inks is something where you go wow I wonder how long he spent on that and Bobs is wow can you believe he did all that so quickly?
thank ya..and you are correct
Ink's artistic ability is incredible.
Thank ya man....
been getting into 3d sculpting as you know...
couple pieces been workin on
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/velo_0.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/velo.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/tran.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/stego_0.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/stego.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/saber_0.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/saber.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/horn_0.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/horn.jpg)
Seriously inks pretty good but hes no where near a portrait artist.
:rofl
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I do 3d stuff all day at work yawn...Lets see some portrait stuff :)
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I do 3d stuff all day at work yawn...Lets see some portrait stuff :)
I posted a portrait painting and drawing...lets see your 3d stuff :rolleyes:
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you posted mildly shaded outlines of a portrait....
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you posted mildly shaded outlines of a portrait....
wrong again.... :rofl
that's a print of the original....that painting of my daughter is my second portrait painting I have done...
been drawing and tattooing portraits for about 25 years now....
anytime you wanna have a drawing contest you let me know...or a 3d modeling contest :aok
are you one of those guys that just cant stand it when you see people who have more talent then you will ever have.....I have met many of them and boy oh boy do they hate me. :aok
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Your telling me the one on the right is a drawing of your wife kissing the baby---the only impressive one?
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Your telling me the one on the right is a drawing of your wife kissing the baby---the only impressive one?
that is my sister, it is a print of my drawing.....
you gonna talk smack...back it up....lets see what you can do.
I am sure you must be this great artist even in 3D land...lets see it, otherwise you are talking out your arse cuz your mouth knows better.
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boy bob ross's voice very soothing. :D
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boy bob ross's voice very soothing. :D
he was, I got a kick out of his "happy trees" :rofl
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I want to see some skin ink portrait style faces nothing but human anatomy. Real portraits.
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:D he was probably baked out of his mind while painting, thinking he was painting unicorns and gobblins, turned out to be mountains and trees and streams.
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I want to see some skin ink portrait style faces nothing but human anatomy. Real portraits.
I never really took a lot of photos of my work, I was just livin life and inking...not concerned about the convention scene or proving who was the best...
I really don't care what you think actually.....
but if you really wanna see my ink and some portraits that I do have up
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1297975530501.2038543.1263751988&type=3
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Anyone remember the other artists show. I think the guy was German by his accent.
Basically his demeanor was the polar opposite of Rosses.
As opposed to Rosses softly spoken. "you put on happy little leaves"
this guy was more like
"Und you place ze leafs on ze trees like ziz! As he would stab the paint onto the canvas
I guess you missed my post early on in this thread. ;)
Try William Alexander; same wet-on-wet technique, but with a firey German personality. Both he and Bob were entertaining in their own ways.
Short low-res sample of Bill's show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umr1SE2M8M)
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I'm just fishing for some blow my mind realistic portraits lol....youd are good I just wanted to see something that wowed me
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i do 3d stuff at work but its always part never art lol just wanted to see you dig :P Ive seen your posts before you get offended easy lol
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:rofl
not offended in anyway...just like making people who talk smack eat there words. :aok
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Not eating my words just saying the only real impressive art I see tattoo artists do is make a real picture come to life on skin
That is what impresses me sorry
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Not eating my words just saying the only real impressive art I see tattoo artists do is make a real picture come to life on skin
That is what impresses me sorry
ever see a tattoo that a dog tried to attack?
best complement I ever got was from a dog....he tried to attack a dragon I did. :rofl
realism is the hardest of all art forms including tattooing, I just grew up doing it.
the dragon the dog tried attacking :rofl (in progress)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/tattoos/dragon-1.jpg)
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I could never draw. Something about learning the proper shading, and
making the objects that are angular. Example, corners.
As I'm older now, maybe I'll buy myself a kit and give it a whirl.
He was an amazing Artist. It's not only technique, it's what you use as well.
:cheers: Oz
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Bob Ross was famous for teaching the wet on wet technique in an easy to understand format. He brought the ability to paint to thousands of people without having to go to art schools and such. ANYONE could do it and that is what made it popular.
Was he a good artist, most likely. He didn't show it on the shows because that isn't what he was paid for. I'm sure he did go to all those schools and learned all about colors, contrasts, highlights, shadows, spacial properties and everything else they stuff in an art students head.
INK is a pretty good artist as well. He must be to make a living at it. All it takes is practice, and lots of it.
Belial is a dick and was most likely born that way. :D
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Bob Ross was famous for teaching the wet on wet technique in an easy to understand format. He brought the ability to paint to thousands of people without having to go to art schools and such. ANYONE could do it and that is what made it popular.
Was he a good artist, most likely. He didn't show it on the shows because that isn't what he was paid for. I'm sure he did go to all those schools and learned all about colors, contrasts, highlights, shadows, spacial properties and everything else they stuff in an art students head.
INK is a pretty good artist as well. He must be to make a living at it. All it takes is practice, and lots of it.
Belial is a dick and was most likely born that way. :D
:rofl
practice is something I have much of :D
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(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/triumph124/portrait4.jpg)
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/triumph124/portrait2.jpg)
Some good ones I found very realistic.
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top one is awesome, color portraits on skin are not easy...bottom one is nice but nothing special.
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To me making human anatomy look realistic seems like the hardest thing.
The first one of the girl looks like a photograph.
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I've done some drawing, pottery, lots of different stuff and I'm not great by any means. But dragons and cartoon type stuff was a whole lot easier for me when I use to like doing that stuff than trying to paint or draw hands or a face lol.
I couldn't even find a picture i've drawn if I tried 99.9% of the stuff I did was at my G/F's house from high school and we don't speak at all. I'm sure she burned it all actually haha.
I do still have most of my pottery stuff though which was actually more fun for me then drawing.
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I could never draw. Something about learning the proper shading, and
making the objects that are angular. Example, corners.
As I'm older now, maybe I'll buy myself a kit and give it a whirl.
He was an amazing Artist. It's not only technique, it's what you use as well.
:cheers: Oz
Oz: While I am by no means an accomplished artist i can and will say this: Boos Ross and ink each have thier own stuyles and techniques. Art especially sketching or even animation involves finding your own "voice" and trust me every voice is unique in it's own way. My point: everyone can draw, its like everything else- you do it over and over. Some of the best artists I have known will nevr publish nor sell their works. To see what i mean take two popular comic book characters done by two different artists, or even look up Luis Royo and Boris Vallejo...
That's what i loved most about Bob Ross or even Donatello d'bartini, and Normam Rockwell; but as for Bob it was his simplicity and soothing voice. I do miss watching him on PBS
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he was, I got a kick out of his "happy trees" :rofl
"beat the devil out of it" :lol
Tomorrow ill post a picture of a staggerwing i traced and colored in autocad.
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Anyone remember the other artists show. I think the guy was German by his accent.
Basically his demeanor was the polar opposite of Rosses.
As opposed to Rosses softly spoken. "you put on happy little leaves"
this guy was more like
"Und you place ze leafs on ze trees like ziz! As he would stab the paint onto the canvas
Bill Alexander.
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The greatest tribute paid to Bob Ross (evar) was posted by our own JB88, next to an avatar of Scarlett Johanssen, no less:
"i heard that the specter of bob ross roams the bulliten boards at night as he passes from the plane of etherial nothingness and into the realm of funk with a capital F.
beware.
bewaaaaarre."
Gentlemen, I believe that says it all.
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Anyone remember the other artists show. I think the guy was German by his accent.
Basically his demeanor was the polar opposite of Rosses.
As opposed to Rosses softly spoken. "you put on happy little leaves"
this guy was more like
"Und you place ze leafs on ze trees like ziz! As he would stab the paint onto the canvas
Bill Alexander.
Are my posts invisible? :noid
Anyone remember the other artists show. I think the guy was German by his accent.
Basically his demeanor was the polar opposite of Rosses.
As opposed to Rosses softly spoken. "you put on happy little leaves"
this guy was more like
"Und you place ze leafs on ze trees like ziz! As he would stab the paint onto the canvas
I guess you missed my post early on in this thread. ;)
Try William Alexander; same wet-on-wet technique, but with a firey German personality. Both he and Bob were entertaining in their own ways.
Short low-res sample of Bill's show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umr1SE2M8M)
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Ink's artistic ability is incredible.
+1......got to go pick my jaw off the floor
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Sorry Dot, did you say something?
Who was that German-sounding guy by the way?
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I do 3d stuff all day at work yawn...Lets see some portrait stuff :)
A solid-works jockey does not an artist make...
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+1......got to go pick my jaw off the floor
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Thanx man
A solid-works jockey does not an artist make...
:D
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I always loved to watch Bob Ross. I can remember getting home from church every Sunday just in time to see the joy of painting. :)
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As promised here is the staggerwing I traced on AUTOcad.
Heres the original:
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/lil_dinho/staggerwing.jpg)
Heres the part I traced/colored:
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/lil_dinho/staggernooverlay.png)
And here is the trace over the original picture:
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/lil_dinho/staggeroverlay.png)
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As promised here is the staggerwing I traced on AUTOcad.
Heres the original:
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/lil_dinho/staggerwing.jpg)
Heres the part I traced/colored:
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/lil_dinho/staggernooverlay.png)
And here is the trace over the original picture:
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/lil_dinho/staggeroverlay.png)
you doing that with a mouse?
if so if I were you I would think about a tablet, although I am not sure if that program you are using can use a tablet, you will be much happier with the results.
I am not saying that what is here is bad, don't take it like that, with a tablet it will be just about like using a pencil, heck for that matter a tablet with the right program is all forms of art, like airbrush, oil paint... water color...chalk...pencil...ect ect.
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you doing that with a mouse?
if so if I were you I would think about a tablet, although I am not sure if that program you are using can use a tablet, you will be much happier with the results.
I am not saying that what is here is bad, don't take it like that, with a tablet it will be just about like using a pencil, heck for that matter a tablet with the right program is all forms of art, like airbrush, oil paint... water color...chalk...pencil...ect ect.
Yes it was done on a desktop at school. Its the first one Ive ever done. On autocad the coloring system is really designed for shading so getting that top wing to fade was the hardest thing. It took me a good 30 minutes of tinkering with transparency and different angles and colors to get it that close. It was just kind of a little class project where everyone picked a "motorized transportation device". So I picked the prettiest GA plane I could think of. Im quite surprised how well it turned out as well for 2 hours of work.
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Yes it was done on a desktop at school. Its the first one Ive ever done. On autocad the coloring system is really designed for shading so getting that top wing to fade was the hardest thing. It took me a good 30 minutes of tinkering with transparency and different angles and colors to get it that close. It was just kind of a little class project where everyone picked a "motorized transportation device". So I picked the prettiest GA plane I could think of. Im quite surprised how well it turned out as well for 2 hours of work.
you should check out the program called GIMP, that and a tablet together is awesome.
that is if you are into image creation.
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you should check out the program called GIMP, that and a tablet together is awesome.
that is if you are into image creation.
Im not creative nor patient enough but I will be taking some more drafting classes so may look into.
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Im not creative nor patient enough but I will be taking some more drafting classes so may look into.
GIMP would be good for that....and then Blender for the 3D part of it.
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My great great aunt( a famous artist) knew Bob Ross always said how nice a guy he was.
She also commented on how good a technique he had. He gets a lot of respect for bringing people into art who otherwise may not have gave it a shot.
Always loved his show. Some of you need to go find a happy little tree to sit under.
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You can draw most anything on AutoCad. I use 2D mostly at the shop but sometime 3D gets the job done better.
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You can draw most anything on AutoCad. I use 2D mostly at the shop but sometime 3D gets the job done better.
Haven't touched on 3d yet. Mostly weve been drawing different brackets but we did this to learn how to use polyline edit (PEDIT) and the hatch command. Easy enough and kinda fun but im not smart enough to draw without plans or at least the peice in question and a measuring device of some sort.
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Haven't touched on 3d yet. Mostly weve been drawing different brackets but we did this to learn how to use polyline edit (PEDIT) and the hatch command. Easy enough and kinda fun but im not smart enough to draw without plans or at least the peice in question and a measuring device of some sort.
Do not sell yourself short. It is not as easy as you think. I know a lot of people that just cannot wrap their head around a 3rd angle projection drawing.
As for being smart enough to draw a part? Needing dimensions to correctly draw a part does not make one stupid. :aok
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I work as a cnc machinist and drawing 3d objects is half the battle, putting toolpaths to complex shapes and making the part is hardest.
Ink have you ever looked into 3d printers for your solid models? Could take your models and make them real.
I use Mastercam for all my parts and its pretty easy to make 3d stuff you just take 2d lines and revolve/extrude chains into solids.
I am not downplaying how hard it is to create exactly what you want sometimes lol...it's like hey I want to trim this circle down what are all these error messages!
They also have direct metal sintering now that creates solids layer by layer out of metal...crazy expensive but would be cool to see a metal dinosaur lol
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Haven't touched on 3d yet. Mostly weve been drawing different brackets but we did this to learn how to use polyline edit (PEDIT) and the hatch command. Easy enough and kinda fun but im not smart enough to draw without plans or at least the peice in question and a measuring device of some sort.
Also, there is as much art as there is science in drawing/designing/fabricating a part or assembly. Engineers are as much artists as a sculptor or painter, their "art" is just more quantifiable since all the pieces must fit together.
The most gratifying part is when an idea...
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Grain%20Mill/DanGrainMill.jpg)
becomes reality :x
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Grain%20Mill/100_1719.jpg)
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Grain%20Mill/100_1718.jpg)
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You do that on your Smithy?
I'll have to post some of my brain buster parts lol
When you get into 5 axis work you have to start thinking outside the box.
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You do that on your Smithy?
I'll have to post some of my brain buster parts lol
When you get into 5 axis work you have to start thinking outside the box.
Yup. Made from an axle of some sort that I got from the scrap yard.
I've had experience with the 5-axis machines before. I served a tool/die apprenticeship and worked in a mold shop for years before my current job and I've used MasterCam, SolidWorks, and ProE before. It does take some out of the ordinary though process sometimes.
Amazing machines. If I had the coin, I would have bought one.
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Ink have you ever looked into 3d printers for your solid models? Could take your models and make them real.
I use Mastercam for all my parts and its pretty easy to make 3d stuff you just take 2d lines and revolve/extrude chains into solids.
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I have seen them, pretty crazy stuff, but awesome, and way to expensive for my blood.
Also, there is as much art as there is science in drawing/designing/fabricating a part or assembly. Engineers are as much artists as a sculptor or painter, their "art" is just more quantifiable since all the pieces must fit together.
The most gratifying part is when an idea...
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Grain%20Mill/DanGrainMill.jpg)
becomes reality :x
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Grain%20Mill/100_1719.jpg)
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Grain%20Mill/100_1718.jpg)
thats friggen mad cool :aok
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Also, there is as much art as there is science in drawing/designing/fabricating a part or assembly. Engineers are as much artists as a sculptor or painter, their "art" is just more quantifiable since all the pieces must fit together.
The most gratifying part is when an idea...
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Grain%20Mill/DanGrainMill.jpg)
becomes reality :x
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Grain%20Mill/100_1719.jpg)
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Grain%20Mill/100_1718.jpg)
Most engineers today are far lacking in the skill to be an engineer. Lots of schools spewing them out left and right. Back in the day folks worked in the shop then decided to go into engineering.
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Do not sell yourself short. It is not as easy as you think. I know a lot of people that just cannot wrap their head around a 3rd angle projection drawing.
As for being smart enough to draw a part? Needing dimensions to correctly draw a part does not make one stupid. :aok
I dont have a problem with working in 3D but we just havent advanced that far in class. We have done 3 views to make a 3d object 2 dimensional though.
I dont think im stupid Im in the top 10 of my class (about 500 kids in my class), Im just more mechanical over designer like. I cant take something and draw it up in my head I have to see and do to understand.
Also if someone tells me to make something then I have trouble unless they give me either a drawing or show me how they want it. Im not good at piecing things together in my head. I guess its the photographic memory.
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Some parts I have saved on my computer I didn't have any of Mastercam at home but could get some off my work computer.
It's my dad, myself, and 1 employee in our shop...I am the only one running the CNC stuff, but my dad does the quotes and Russ welds and does a bit of everything lol.
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/triumph124/Machining.jpg)
Made 200 of these theres some pretty cool mill/lathe work to them if I had a closer pic.
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/triumph124/machining5.jpg)
Made 30 of these from Brass castings .
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/triumph124/machining4.jpg)
A 3d model of the part before I put toolpaths too it.
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(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/triumph124/machining3.jpg)
200 of these as well they are about a 45 min part each boy was I glad to finish them, they have milling, tapping, ID chamfer all kinds of fun stuff goin on lol
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/triumph124/HAASmachine.jpg)
Haas ST 30 with live tooling, boring threading tapping all done without loosening the chuck. I mirrored the part to save material when parted in half.
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/triumph124/grinder2.jpg)
Grinder shaft for Merck Pharmaceuticals cut with waterjet/lathe/and mill.
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/triumph124/Grinder.jpg)
The whole grinder layout, I don't have a pic of the whole completed assembly but the thing cost about as much as a vette when done lol.
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Most engineers today are far lacking in the skill to be an engineer. Lots of schools spewing them out left and right. Back in the day folks worked in the shop then decided to go into engineering.
^^^^^ This.
EDIT: The young engineers coming up these days rely far too heavily on AutoCAD, Solidworks, etc.
I actually saw a design that involved us installing a roller into a moving fixture. AutoCAD didn't give the red line, so the engineer said, "It will fit fine."
My response was, "Yup it'll fit fine, but once the assembly is welded into place you'll NEVER get that roller out for replacement."
He went back to the computer. (Not "drawing board".)
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^^^^^ This.
EDIT: The young engineers coming up these days rely far too heavily on AutoCAD, Solidworks, etc.
I actually saw a design that involved us installing a roller into a moving fixture. AutoCAD didn't give the red line, so the engineer said, "It will fit fine."
My response was, "Yup it'll fit fine, but once the assembly is welded into place you'll NEVER get that roller out for replacement."
He went back to the computer. (Not "drawing board".)
That's the beauty of designing and fabbing under 1 roof lol
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That's the beauty of designing and fabbing under 1 roof lol
Oh man I hear ya.
We start with raw material and build some rather large (multi-million dollar) systems.
The problem is that we have engineers growing out of the freaking woodwork and they all want to re-design the wheel. I'm talking about young guys and girls that will try to design some overly complicated, world beating assemblies yet they couldn't change a flat tire. It doesn't help matters that we've been in the prototype stage for 75% of our products in the last year.
Makes for a rough day when I spend more time wielding a grinder and red-lining prints as opposed to turning a wrench. In fact, as I type this, I'm sitting in my hydraulic fluid stained work shirt with metal shavings firmly embedded in my hands.
Darned kids. :lol
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Belial
looking through some photos of my tat shop I found these...the only pic I have of some portrait paintings I did, photo was takin in 2010 this is 7 years after I started painting regularly,....that's my son Khanan posing :D
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/ARTWORK/adaywithJohnnyAngelandCeline037.jpg)
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would you believe Bob Ross lived in my neighborhood?
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Oh man I hear ya.
We start with raw material and build some rather large (multi-million dollar) systems.
The problem is that we have engineers growing out of the freaking woodwork and they all want to re-design the wheel. I'm talking about young guys and girls that will try to design some overly complicated, world beating assemblies yet they couldn't change a flat tire. It doesn't help matters that we've been in the prototype stage for 75% of our products in the last year.
Makes for a rough day when I spend more time wielding a grinder and red-lining prints as opposed to turning a wrench. In fact, as I type this, I'm sitting in my hydraulic fluid stained work shirt with metal shavings firmly embedded in my hands.
Darned kids. :lol
Yup yup and yup
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Belial
looking through some photos of my tat shop I found these...the only pic I have of some portrait paintings I did, photo was takin in 2010 this is 7 years after I started painting regularly,....that's my son Khanan posing :D
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/ARTWORK/adaywithJohnnyAngelandCeline037.jpg)
Nice looking shop Ink. The work on the wall looks great.
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Nice looking shop Ink. The work on the wall looks great.
Thank ya...too bad I was so stubborn and had to close it down.
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would you believe Bob Ross lived in my neighborhood?
Most people would probably put it: You lived in Bob Ross's neighborhood :)