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Title: one scary landing
Post by: ebfd11 on April 26, 2012, 08:30:24 AM
As reported on CNN

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c4#/video/world/2012/04/25/nr-spain-planes-land-in-high-winds.cnn

Awesome job by the pilot.

LawnDart
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: PR3D4TOR on April 26, 2012, 09:10:25 AM
 :O
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: colmbo on April 26, 2012, 10:58:56 AM
I think that video is speeded up.  Things were just too "twitchy" for it to have been at 1x speed.
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: Karnak on April 26, 2012, 11:48:32 AM
Here are a couple of fun airports I was looking at videos of last night:

Lukla, Nepal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG3ZojHEZ3w&feature=related

Paro, Bhutan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZqN-uEgQU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlKApjc9T2U&feature=related
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: Serenity on April 26, 2012, 02:02:15 PM
I think that video is speeded up.  Things were just too "twitchy" for it to have been at 1x speed.

Agreed. That video has been sped up. Notice how quickly the first plane jerks back to center, and the others almost 'shooting' straight up when they go-around.
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: RedBull1 on April 26, 2012, 02:44:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAfQwDizpRo St. Maarten has a extremely short runway for 747's therefore they need come in low and slow, not counting the 3000 Ft high mountain, and the towns about 500 Ft off the other side of the runway!

St. Maarten and Kai Tak airport have some of the craziest landings you will ever see, well Kai Tak DID but it was shut down and a new one was built a few miles away.
Here's a video of a 747 landing with some cross winds at the old Kai Tak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtnL4KYVtDE
For anyone wondering why he didn't come straight in, its because there's roughly 5000 Ft high mountains behind the Runway, and if they came in from the other end of the Rwy (which they did occasionally) They would have a strong tailwind.
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: Tupac on April 26, 2012, 02:47:56 PM
I don't understand why people stand RIGHT in front of runway at St Maarten. One of these days a 747s is going to come in a little too low and take out 20 or 30 folks.
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: F22RaptorDude on April 26, 2012, 02:58:51 PM
I don't understand why people stand RIGHT in front of runway at St Maarten. One of these days a 747s is going to come in a little too low and take out 20 or 30 folks.

if thats the one by the beach I recall i saw a video where a woman foolishly tried to hold onto the fence as a 747 was throttling up for take off, she couldn't hold and and fell, tumbled around a good 20-30 feet then bashed face first into a rock
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: MachFly on April 26, 2012, 05:05:27 PM
I don't understand why people stand RIGHT in front of runway at St Maarten. One of these days a 747s is going to come in a little too low and take out 20 or 30 folks.


Just because it's fun.
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: Seanaldinho on April 26, 2012, 05:57:00 PM
Here are a couple of fun airports I was looking at videos of last night:

Lukla, Nepal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG3ZojHEZ3w&feature=related


That is mother freaking crazy. So little runway and absolutley no room for a go around.
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: cpxxx on April 26, 2012, 06:07:54 PM
Lukla, that is quite a scary landing. No mistakes allowed, no go around that's for sure. My wife flew in there when she climbed Everest, (well actually she only climbed to base camp). She had no idea coming in what it was like. It was only after landing did she realise. :uhoh But she reckoned it was less dangerous than the time some Yaks nearly pushed her off the mountain.
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: PR3D4TOR on April 26, 2012, 06:42:03 PM
Ever heard of Courchevel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNFNFZq2BFY
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: ImADot on April 27, 2012, 08:52:50 AM
Here's a compilation of extreme crosswind landings. Some were test flights, some were real flights with passengers. The music is lame, so feel free to mute it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PdUdaXDHm4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PdUdaXDHm4)
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: Tracerfi on April 27, 2012, 04:34:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=7AIYpr9R0rI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=7AIYpr9R0rI) Check this out I would of thought a Plane like that would of Exploded after 3 seconds of Dragging on the ground If A was on that plane I would  :bolt: after Landing
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: Babalonian on April 27, 2012, 06:22:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=7AIYpr9R0rI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=7AIYpr9R0rI) Check this out I would of thought a Plane like that would of Exploded after 3 seconds of Dragging on the ground If A was on that plane I would  :bolt: after Landing

I remember hearing of this on the radio driving to work and saying "I got to get around to seeing the video of that", but never did, thanks!  Very interesting, especialy how long it took to stop.... I wonder if that's because engines were still running at idle or above, or because there was no reverse thrustering available, or..... 
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: Golfer on April 28, 2012, 12:32:42 AM
Most of an airplanes stopping power is generated via the wheel brakes which are very efficient at converting the airplanes "go" energy into heat via friction using the brakes and tires.  Also, generally thrust reverse capabilities are not used for calculating stopping performance. I say generally because some manufacturers have managed to certify some variants using them, the practice of which I'm not a fan but that's neither here nor there.

At any rate without the airplanes primary means of slowing and only spoilers to help create a resultant downforce to slow the airplane it's a simple matter of logic and physics that it'll take longer to stop since its not as efficient at stopping.

In short:

"blah blah blah, whatever, no brakes which is how the airplane stops."
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: trigger2 on April 29, 2012, 11:05:57 AM
So, when do we get wind back in AH?  :joystick:
Title: Re: one scary landing
Post by: Spikes on April 29, 2012, 12:31:13 PM
if thats the one by the beach I recall i saw a video where a woman foolishly tried to hold onto the fence as a 747 was throttling up for take off, she couldn't hold and and fell, tumbled around a good 20-30 feet then bashed face first into a rock
Yep. When I was there on a cruise, we went to the airport. Watched an A340 take off and 10-15 people standing by the fence holding onto it.
(http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/86/9634d2b8dc2a43688323ae13407f9155/l.jpg)

Cool stuff, though.