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Title: antique gun laws
Post by: MaSonZ on May 03, 2012, 05:58:17 PM
These threads about home defense, and antique guns and the sorts are driving me nuts for an oldie. Tuesday went to the Springfield Armory Museum in Springfield, MA and seeing so many antique guns drove me even more crazy. Does anyone know where I can find antique gun laws? I checked my state page (MA) and found nothing. I dont have an FID, but I have buddies who do, as well as memberships to gun clubs so getting ammunition and access to a range for the rare times I shoot would not be an issue. Mostly I would want it for eye candy in my room, but we all know how boys and their toys are.
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: mbailey on May 03, 2012, 06:16:56 PM
Heres a good place to start

http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/


Most manually operated firearms prior to 1946 are considered C&R........the laws may/will differ with handguns though 

Any gun mfg 50 years ago or later can be considered a C&R

ie if you want to go out and buy a Civil war era springfield rifle, your fine............just note that it has to be an original, a reproduction doesnt count.

BATFE list link
http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-11/atf-p-5300-11.pdf

I will tell you this though, up at the gunshop we are still required to do a 4473 form and backround check...............Im in PA


 
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: PFactorDave on May 03, 2012, 06:29:33 PM
Here in Illinois, you can purchase flintlock or percussion cap black powder firearms without a FOID card or any kind of background check. 
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: MaSonZ on May 03, 2012, 07:00:22 PM
thank you both for the info. once I save enough extra pennies gonna have to get me a M1 Garand and a couple strippers for it.
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: Melvin on May 03, 2012, 07:17:53 PM
gonna have to get me a M1 Garand and a couple strippers for it.


Umm...


(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l53/hotasyoudoo/SUP/semi-naked-girls-strippers-non-nude.jpg)




Garands use a clip. They are loaded en bloc.
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: PFactorDave on May 03, 2012, 07:56:12 PM

Umm...


(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l53/hotasyoudoo/SUP/semi-naked-girls-strippers-non-nude.jpg)




Garands use a clip. They are loaded en bloc.

I'd like to load those blocks!    :x  :rofl
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: ozrocker on May 04, 2012, 08:05:14 AM
I'd like to chamber a round or two :devil



                                                                                                                                                :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: MaSonZ on May 04, 2012, 04:11:58 PM

Umm...


(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l53/hotasyoudoo/SUP/semi-naked-girls-strippers-non-nude.jpg)




Garands use a clip. They are loaded en bloc.
8 round stripper clip. same thing.
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: Melvin on May 04, 2012, 06:13:55 PM
8 round stripper clip. same thing.

Nope, sorry.

A stripper clip would be something that holds the rounds prior to loading in the weapon. The rounds are then "stripped" off as they are fed into the weapon's magazine.

The Garand uses an 8 round "clip". The whole assembly (bullets and clip) are loaded into the weapon's magazine where the clip stays until all rounds are expended.

 :salute
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: Maverick on May 04, 2012, 06:49:55 PM
8 round stripper clip. same thing.

An 8 round stripper clip is not the same thing as a Garand enblock clip. Use your google to look up stripper clips and then a garand clip.
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: mbailey on May 04, 2012, 07:00:28 PM
Garand clip.....entire assembly is pushed down into the gun...its what makes the heavenly "ping" noise when your garand is empty, the metal clip ejecting
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/garand5.jpg)

Stripper clip used to load a magazine or pushes the bullets off the stripper directly into the firearms internal magazine..either way the long metal strip is not "in" the gun, it just holds the ammunition to quickly load a mag or firearm.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/556_stripper.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/imagesCAC20I53.jpg)

 :salute Mason
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 04, 2012, 07:36:12 PM
8 round stripper clip. same thing.

Good for your sake that others have chimed in before me.   :aok

Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: Selino631 on May 04, 2012, 10:39:52 PM

Umm...


(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l53/hotasyoudoo/SUP/semi-naked-girls-strippers-non-nude.jpg)




Garands use a clip. They are loaded en bloc.

i almost had a accidental discharge  :D
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: MaSonZ on May 05, 2012, 08:42:32 PM
so, it appears im wrong. no offense taken, i learned something.

I knew about the ping being the clip ejecting.

one other question after the through flaming I recieved: Why do many call it a stripper clip, when it clearly isnt? Lack of information on the subject I'm guessing?
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: curry1 on May 05, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
so, it appears im wrong. no offense taken, i learned something.

I knew about the ping being the clip ejecting.

one other question after the through flaming I recieved: Why do many call it a stripper clip, when it clearly isnt? Lack of information on the subject I'm guessing?

No one has ever called a Garand clip a stripper clip.  Unless they were wrong.
Title: Re: antique gun laws
Post by: Melvin on May 05, 2012, 09:13:39 PM
so, it appears im wrong. no offense taken, i learned something.



 :salute