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Title: Falling tanks
Post by: justIN on May 09, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
What kind of crud is this? Tanks from Bish V 28 to Knights V 83 spawning on top of a mountain and doing a teeter on the edge to fire?
And how about the tanks falling, rolling down the mountain behind the spawn on the knights side at V83. Pretty sure that is not very real like, when a bush can tip your tank over and your done for.
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: bustr on May 09, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
When I'm around I up in an 88 and have fun with the unristricted shots whit AP from the manned position.
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: kilz on May 09, 2012, 10:19:12 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

 :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Meatwad on May 10, 2012, 08:56:55 AM
Reminds me of some map where I spawned a panzer and it spawned in a tree. I couldnt move otherwise I would fall and roll over, but I could sit still and shoot other tanks from the spawn while perched in the tree.

Needless to say I stayed right there and got a number of kills from that hiding spot  :cool:
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: matt on May 10, 2012, 09:07:43 AM
What kind of crud is this? Tanks from Bish V 28 to Knights V 83 spawning on top of a mountain and doing a teeter on the edge to fire?
And how about the tanks falling, rolling down the mountain behind the spawn on the knights side at V83. Pretty sure that is not very real like, when a bush can tip your tank over and your done for.

its fun rolling down that mountain in an m3 woot
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: PFactorDave on May 10, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
I agree!  It is an absolute travesty that it has been allowed to continue this long!

I say take this map out of the rotation immediately!

Please take it out  of the rotation...

Please...
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Rob52240 on May 10, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Spawn campers shall receive no sympathy.
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Reaper90 on May 10, 2012, 10:30:26 AM
Strange things were going on there the other day! I was sitting there in my Panzer, all of a sudden what I presumed to be an enemy tank (no icon) appears to my left, moving at a very very high rate of speed, from left to right in front of me.... he had just come flying down the canyon wall, and somehow was still moving at what appeared to be 100+ mph across the spawn.... on his roof! No way I could hit that fast of a target with my main gun but I managed a few pings on him with my machine gun as he passed in front of me, flew across the canyon floor, and exploded against the far right wall.  Strangest GV kill I've gotten credit for yet! :rofl
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: TDeacon on May 10, 2012, 03:06:44 PM
When I'm around I up in an 88 and have fun with the unristricted shots whit AP from the manned position.

So how do you hit them with the unmarked 88 gunsight at that range - tape on the monitor?  You have to move the barrel/sight in order to see where the round falls. 

MH
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Big Rat on May 10, 2012, 07:42:27 PM
Strange things were going on there the other day! I was sitting there in my Panzer, all of a sudden what I presumed to be an enemy tank (no icon) appears to my left, moving at a very very high rate of speed, from left to right in front of me.... he had just come flying down the canyon wall, and somehow was still moving at what appeared to be 100+ mph across the spawn.... on his roof! No way I could hit that fast of a target with my main gun but I managed a few pings on him with my machine gun as he passed in front of me, flew across the canyon floor, and exploded against the far right wall.  Strangest GV kill I've gotten credit for yet! :rofl

Did you tape it? :lol

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: justIN on May 10, 2012, 08:18:20 PM
Nope no tape or film the GV'ers at the base no what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Melvin on May 10, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Nope no tape or film the GV'ers at the base no what I'm talking about.


 :bhead
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Reschke on May 10, 2012, 09:58:41 PM
Saw it happen more than once yesterday and it inevitably happens when a tank comes down the mountain and lands on its turret. Then it is off to the freaking races.
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Reaper90 on May 11, 2012, 06:11:37 AM
Did you tape it? :lol

 :lol No, but I wish I had, lol. The whole time I'm looking at this tank screaming past at 100 mph upside down and thinking "WTF?" I'm also wondering "I wonder what the guy inside that tank is thinking right now?!?" It's either "OH CRAP!" or "WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Max on May 11, 2012, 07:38:10 AM
June Cleaver: "Beaver what happened to your brand new school clothes?"

The Beaver: "Lumpy Rutherford and Eddy Haskell threw a buncha crud at me and Larry Mondello."

June Cleaver: "Ward, I want you to have a talk with those boys fathers!"

Ward: "Yes June."   {Ward returns to reading his newspaper on the couch with a knowing smirk}

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/289/beaver.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/140/beaver.jpg/)


/humorous hijack  :D
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: lyric1 on May 11, 2012, 08:02:30 PM
So how do you hit them with the unmarked 88 gunsight


This would fix the non sight issue.

Add what should already be there.  :aok

Only thing is the gunners would be even more deadly with 4X magnification.



http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/88mm-antiaircraft-gun/sighting-equipment-german-artillery-88mm.html
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: matt on May 12, 2012, 09:23:04 AM
Strange things were going on there the other day! I was sitting there in my Panzer, all of a sudden what I presumed to be an enemy tank (no icon) appears to my left, moving at a very very high rate of speed, from left to right in front of me.... he had just come flying down the canyon wall, and somehow was still moving at what appeared to be 100+ mph across the spawn.... on his roof! No way I could hit that fast of a target with my main gun but I managed a few pings on him with my machine gun as he passed in front of me, flew across the canyon floor, and exploded against the far right wall.  Strangest GV kill I've gotten credit for yet! :rofl
:rofl
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Chungo63 on May 12, 2012, 11:39:11 AM
Boy I'm glad to see that others are fed up with this too.

The other day there was a Tiger II (Fester) perched at the top of this cliff. He was knocking off tanks wholesale. I upped a Tiger 1, perched it on the side of a berm and started firing. Round after round bounced off him, but I expected that. He one shot kills me from this perch. I think WTF, so I up another one. After hitting him several more times he starts what I believe will be a sure wild ride to the bottom of this cliff. Amazingly, after flipping and bouncing, he stops half way down and begins to fire again. I begin firing on him again. After several more hits he starts another wild slide down the cliff, but wait, he stops again!!!! He once again starts firing (WTF????) 

It gets better, somehow I must have tracked him. (I later watched the film) He sits there for a minute or so, incredibly he must have received supplies because I watch in disbelief as his damaged track repairs itself. After the track repairs itself, he begins another out of control descent to the bottom. He somehow survives this fall and goes on to kill numerous more tanks.

I realize that this is just a game and have learned to deal with the tank flipping bushes, but really?????  If anyone is interested, I could post the film.
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Karnak on May 12, 2012, 12:28:18 PM
Chungo63,

Send the film to HTC.  They'll likely adjust the spawn point.
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: USCH on May 14, 2012, 05:50:06 PM
Chungo63,

Send the film to HTC.  They'll likely adjust the spawn point.
this has come up 100 times and they haven't gotten to it yet..... :noid
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: lunatic1 on May 14, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
the gv's have been spawning up on that hill even before the last 2 updates--when your country is on that side of the map you will spawn up there too..and i bet you won't say a word about it..nor anyone else on your side..you all will just laugh at your country mates when they slide down one side and up the other.so many people  :cry about this issue thats it's silly.nuf said
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: TDeacon on May 14, 2012, 10:30:30 PM
It's kind of silly, but IIRC it only happens at that one spawn, and it provides a bit of variety and comic relief, so I say leave it be.  Just make sure the side rotation works on Trinity, so it's not always the Bishops who spawn there...

MH
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: BaldEagl on May 15, 2012, 01:58:39 AM
I spawned on top of that stupid hill 6, 7, 8 times in a row one night.  Even though I had a position to hit the enemy below (there's a spot that works that only fits one tank) I didn't get more than a kill or two (high ENY Panzer) and of course the bomb you know what's loved that spot.  I finally spawned at the base and drove out so I could actually kill people.

Yep, awsome advantage.   :rolleyes:   :cry
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Torquila on May 15, 2012, 02:01:52 AM
LOL
FESTER IS SUCH A BAWSCE< ZOMG
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: TDeacon on May 15, 2012, 11:02:19 AM
Boy I'm glad to see that others are fed up with this too.

The other day there was a Tiger II (Fester) perched at the top of this cliff. He was knocking off tanks wholesale. I upped a Tiger 1, perched it on the side of a berm and started firing. Round after round bounced off him, but I expected that. He one shot kills me from this perch. I think WTF, so I up another one. After hitting him several more times he starts what I believe will be a sure wild ride to the bottom of this cliff. Amazingly, after flipping and bouncing, he stops half way down and begins to fire again. I begin firing on him again. After several more hits he starts another wild slide down the cliff, but wait, he stops again!!!! He once again starts firing (WTF????)  

It gets better, somehow I must have tracked him. (I later watched the film) He sits there for a minute or so, incredibly he must have received supplies because I watch in disbelief as his damaged track repairs itself. After the track repairs itself, he begins another out of control descent to the bottom. He somehow survives this fall and goes on to kill numerous more tanks.

I realize that this is just a game and have learned to deal with the tank flipping bushes, but really?????  If anyone is interested, I could post the film.

FYI, a Tiger II will generally kill anything else with one shot, including a Tiger I; this is independent of the spawn point issue.  Furthermore, the "resupply" capability is independent as well.  That's how the game works, so you need to learn to deal with it.  With respect to track damage; there are plenty of real-world examples of WWII tank crews repairing tracks in the field, frequently under fire. 

MH
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: ozrocker on May 16, 2012, 06:33:17 AM
Mrs. Cleaver:  Ward honey, you were pretty tough on the Beaver last night!
Ward Cleaver: Who's yo Daddy Biznatch. I tore that thang up!


                                                                                                                                       :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: Chungo63 on May 19, 2012, 11:45:32 AM
TDeacon...Thanks for the lecture.......First you talk game, then you talk real world.....which is it? I realize that this is a game. I realize that a Tiger II will one shot kill a Tiger I...I gotta really question the ablity of your tank crew to fix the track of of a Tiger II that is defying gravity. I was merely pointing out a glich in the game.....Lecture not necessary!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: lunatic1 on May 19, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
Chungo63,

Send the film to HTC.  They'll likely adjust the spawn point.
and thats all it is..the spawn point is out of alignment-and apperantly always has been
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: TDeacon on May 19, 2012, 01:35:57 PM
TDeacon...Thanks for the lecture.......First you talk game, then you talk real world.....which is it? I realize that this is a game. I realize that a Tiger II will one shot kill a Tiger I...I gotta really question the ablity of your tank crew to fix the track of of a Tiger II that is defying gravity. I was merely pointing out a glich in the game.....Lecture not necessary!!!!!!!!!

It’s both “game” and “real world”, actually.  Sorry about the lecture.  Note however that you commented adversely (in a single paragraph) on a mix of game elements, and seemed to be suggesting that there is some sort of majority view that they all needed to be changed (or at least that is what I inferred when I read it).  I guess I just wanted to disagree, and did so in an imperfectly worded manner.  Taking these issues individually:

The Tiger gun penetration and track replacement elements seem reasonably historical.  So my vote is to leave these alone. 

The overall GV “instant repair” capability is clearly not historical, but neither is instant aircraft rearm/refuel.  So my vote is to leave these alone also for gameplay reasons.   

The movement of GVs over the terrain is not very realistic/historical.  Vehicles travel cross country at speeds which are about twice what they would use in “real life”, and the physics of hill transit are a bit strange.  However, the former is probably necessary for gameplay purposes, and the latter is kind of fun.  I am used to these game elements, and have come to enjoy them, so my vote is to leave these alone as well. 

The single Trinity spawn point “misalignment” is neither historical nor ahistorical.  It has always been there, however, and I think it adds some variety to the normal face-to-face canyon GV fights.  So my vote is to leave this alone as well.  If it bothers other players, I would suggest to them that it only occurs in this one spot, and that they could always do their GV fighting somewhere else on the map.  Your opinion seems to differ from mine on these last 2 paragraphs. 

MH
Title: Re: Falling tanks
Post by: W7LPNRICK on May 19, 2012, 09:44:36 PM
 :huh Go find a game that's more realistic, this much fun, costs about the same, then come & show us.  :neener: