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Title: joystick issuses
Post by: sunlust on May 12, 2012, 11:56:56 PM
ok well ive been gone from ah sences wensday. i got back on sat around 12 am went and got up noticed something was not right play was not responding to my joystick moves at all so  i relog figured something went wrong on log in after figuring out i should recail prob was still there accept in my for my throttle control i did not have to go far for my engines to be on low so i did a full recail. then i noticed i could make really sharp left left leans but my right ones where alot harderd. some one had said in the late war area that  they did something to the severs at some point. so im not sure whats going on it works 100% like its suposed to on all my other games but just on ah is it messed up.

so im am currently using saitek x52 pro have to recail 3 times to day so far

is any one eles having issues with theres. if u are just give some info so when they read this they may look into it
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: morfiend on May 13, 2012, 01:16:36 AM
  Sunlust,

  do you notice the led's blinking? X52 draw alot of power and your usb ports may not be up to the task.

   Try a powered usb hub,belkin would be a good choice but there are plenty of others out there,they cost about 20 bucks but are worth it in the long run. Be sure it had a plugin power converter and it's not just a hub thats unpowered.

   Another common problem is the wire between the JS and throttle,it can come loose and cause powerloss and calibration issues.

    That said I ran an X52 for about 8 years and the only problem I had was the twist rudder went bad after about 3 years,this was solved with a set of pedals.

     Until you get a powered hub,try turning the leds off and the mdf display down,you can find that in the saitek control panel,while there do a calibration then when ingame try calibrating it again and see if that helps or not.

        Plz let us know how you make out.

  hope this helps.


     :salute
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: sunlust on May 13, 2012, 01:36:43 AM
ok well i for got to metion that is power hubed already. and i for got to add the other thing i have noticed some times after my turns my rudder kicks in for no reason with out me even turning the stick. and to also add i did ask in my contries chat to see if any one eles was having issues with theres as well i got 2 yes but seeing as we was getting our bums handed to us not many replied so yh
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: The Fugitive on May 13, 2012, 07:47:29 AM
It's not a game issue, if it was you would have gotten a hundred replies to your question as that stick is one of the more popular ones.  That being said, it's time to look closer at your set up. You said you calibrated in windows, did you do it in the game also? In the game you can open the advance tab in the map controllers section to watch your input in the blue window. As you click on each axis and move the stick through the axis you should see the lines move up and down SMOOTHLY. If you have them jumping all over the place, even when your not touching the stick, your stick has a problem.

Check these things and let us know what you find.
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: morfiend on May 13, 2012, 06:18:51 PM
  Sunlust,

   If you're having an issue with the rudder,and this is possible because that axis uses potentiometers unlike the pitch and roll axises{axii} use halon devices and arent prone to failure. Look at the clipboard,map controls and the yaw axis,check the numbers and see if the stop moving,they should read between 0 and 636xx,not sure the exact numberand when centered should read 3xxxx or half the top number.



  As my friend Fugi says plz let us know how you make out with this and I also dont think it's a game issue.


    :salute
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: sunlust on May 13, 2012, 09:15:05 PM
ok well i went and did a check like u guys suggested when i first checked on it my y and x axis numbers were flikering like they could not make up there mind on what number they wanted to be at so i moved the stick between its number went from to 0 and to its highest number it idles at 32767 for my x,y,z axis i am gonna ask around again see if any one eles is having issues so i can see if it is more than just the 2 i got yestrday
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: morfiend on May 14, 2012, 05:04:08 PM
  Sunlust,

  You can ask around all you like but I doubt it's an issue with the game.

   It's more likely it;s a problem with your controller,the pitch and roll axis are controlled by halon devices and are pretty reliable. There is a magnet mod that can be done to the X52 that is supposed to make the stick work better.

    Try googling x52 magnet mod for further instructions if your interested.

 The other problem common to the x52 is the wire between the throttle and JS,if you dont have the HOTAS fastened down and the wire secured it can come loose and cause all kinds of problems from buttons not fuctioning to loosing calibration etc.

  I suspect if you're having unwanted inputs that you should check the yaw axis,the rudder is operated with a potentiometer and it can go bad.Saitek has a drive that is supposed to fix this but it didnt fix mine and I resorted to rudder pedals and disabled the twist rudder.  Select the axis the check advanced box,look at the "raw" and "scaled" windows as you move the rudder through it whole movement.  Do the lines both go all the way to top and bottom?  Do they return to center? Is there any jumping movement or otherwise?   If the axis is functioning properly it should show full travel top to bottom and return to center with out any jumping or bouncing.

  Oh and it's normal if you see a slight delay between "raw" and "scaled" as thats caused by the amount of dampening and deadpan you have.    If you find thats the issue,you could try to correct it with some adjustment to dampening and deadpan but my experience tells me that if it's a bad pot. no amount of adjusting will totally solve the problem.


   :salute
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: homersipes on May 14, 2012, 08:05:25 PM
I have had the same thing happen to me.  I use the x52 and it usually happens right as I am lining up for a kill :bhead :bhead, it will jerk my plane to the righ(usually) and down.  I hit the x button for auto as I unplug the controller from the usb, wait bout 3 seconds and plug it back in, then it works fine.  after I am dead or totally out of whack for a shot.  not sure if its the control or a wire, but I dont have this problem with my pedals or mouse so I dont think that its my computer.  This task might be  difficult if you have a desktop and your control plugged in behind.  good luck if you figure it out let me know :)
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: The Fugitive on May 14, 2012, 09:09:48 PM
I have had the same thing happen to me.  I use the x52 and it usually happens right as I am lining up for a kill :bhead :bhead, it will jerk my plane to the righ(usually) and down.  I hit the x button for auto as I unplug the controller from the usb, wait bout 3 seconds and plug it back in, then it works fine.  after I am dead or totally out of whack for a shot.  not sure if its the control or a wire, but I dont have this problem with my pedals or mouse so I dont think that its my computer.  This task might be  difficult if you have a desktop and your control plugged in behind.  good luck if you figure it out let me know :)

Is yours plugged into a powered USB hub, or the computer?

If it is the computer most times your computer doesn't have enough power to run ALL the USB stuff you have plugged in. The other thing is power saver modes. The computer will power down USB units to save power.
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: Rolex on May 14, 2012, 09:25:51 PM
I would probably check these 3 things:

1. Check that the control wire between throttle and stick is seated firmly in each controller.

2. If you're using the Saitek software, try uninstalling it and mapping directly in Aces High. You can always reinstall it.

3. You might want to try plugging your powered USB hub into a different USB slot on your machine and see if that changes anything.
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: jeb on May 28, 2012, 11:53:51 AM
I have been using the x52 for several years myself. I have had the same issues you've mentioned. Here is what I have found to be the problem everytime. First I did all the calibration tricks known to man, in windows and AH. I got ticked off enough at the damn stick I finally took it apart...my gawd there are a lot of wires and thingies. The center column of the stick contains a nest of wires that control the stick. Each time there was one wire that had been nearly "rubbed" all the way through. I spliced and taped the wires and bingo...it worked great. BTW, warranty is voided if you do what i did. Good luck sir. Email me if you have further questions.

Jebbers
Title: Re: joystick issuses
Post by: Rich52 on May 30, 2012, 07:36:15 AM
Actually, and this may sound weird, but I had an X52 that was having calibration problems that I solved by turning LED and MFD power all the way "up" in control panel.