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Title: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: Nefarious on May 19, 2012, 07:24:39 PM
Pack your bags, we're going East.

CICs will be selected and Registration will close on May 25th. Frame Dates will be  June 1st, 8th and 15th.

http://ahevents.org/fso-setups/86-eastern-european-theatre/883-clash-at-kursk.html
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: STXAce8 on May 20, 2012, 07:28:47 AM
Thank you Nef.  :D
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: captain1ma on May 20, 2012, 09:11:40 PM
any chance of getting tower enemy?
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: ImADot on May 20, 2012, 10:25:01 PM
any chance of getting tower enemy?

You mean like, when you kill the enemy he ends up in the tower?  :neener:
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: Easyscor on May 22, 2012, 01:49:39 PM
You mean like, when you kill the enemy he ends up in the tower?  :neener:

 :lol

Hey, I've heard of pie without ice cream, and ice cream without pie, but Kursk without tanks is just wrong somehow.
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: Nefarious on May 22, 2012, 04:06:40 PM
:lol

Hey, I've heard of pie without ice cream, and ice cream without pie, but Kursk without tanks is just wrong somehow.

Were considering GVs, still up in the air... ;)
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: HighTone on May 23, 2012, 11:56:29 AM
A little colder than the PTO I was expecting.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: Nefarious on May 23, 2012, 05:17:26 PM
A little colder than the PTO I was expecting.  :headscratch:

What, Southern Russia and Ukraine in July not hot enough for you? ;)
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: ELD66 on May 23, 2012, 06:03:37 PM
Also was expecting PTO.   :lol
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: STXAce8 on May 23, 2012, 08:08:23 PM
Also was expecting PTO.   :lol
A little colder than the PTO I was expecting.  :headscratch:
This is helpful, it can magically predict the next FSO ;): http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,327090.0.html
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: Nefarious on May 23, 2012, 08:19:53 PM
This is helpful, it can magically predict the next FSO ;): http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,327090.0.html

Be advised. We like to follow the schedule, but we do not always go by it.
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: HighTone on May 23, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
This is helpful, it can magically predict the next FSO ;): http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,327090.0.html


Really, because according to that the FSO was in the Mediterranean last month. So who were all the guys I was flying BoB with?



I like this setup, I have had fun with it in the past.

 :cheers: till frame 1
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: STXAce8 on May 23, 2012, 09:38:27 PM
Well atleast it was, close-ish.  ;)
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: ELD66 on May 23, 2012, 11:26:54 PM
Be advised. We like to follow the schedule, but we do not always go by it.
Already knew this.  :lol
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: Raphael on May 25, 2012, 12:04:53 AM
OMG! Pretty please I wanna fly the new SHTOOKA in this!!!!!
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: viking73 on June 04, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
Somebody goofed on this FSO and didn't do their homework. Russia didn't get it's first batch of P-40N's till November 1943.

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The 65th IAP, whose re-equipping was begun in September 1943, was already receiving the P-40N-1 by November, and the P-40N-5 in December.

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In the fall of 1943 this function was handed off to the 11th ZAP, situated in the nearby town of Kirovabad. The P-40M-10 began to arrive here in August, and the P-40N-1 in November. In October 1944 the 11th ZAP began to receive the most modern model of the Kittyhawk delivered to the USSR, the P-40N-30.

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-40/index.htm (http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-40/index.htm)
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: Nefarious on June 04, 2012, 03:51:48 PM
Somebody goofed on this FSO and didn't do their homework.

Am I getting graded on this?

Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: Squire on June 05, 2012, 07:21:35 AM
Not my design but I will make a comment here.

The info posted above is correct for the P-40Ns entry date into the VVS (11-43) and I certainly don't dispute it. I don't think its a stretch to use the P-40N in a mid (July 1943) setup. The P-40E is the reworked version (from the original AH version) with no WEP capability at all ...and was being phased out by early 1943 with the Soviets. By Kursk the Russians did have the P-40K. So we end up having to use the P-40F and/or the P-40N as a "mid war" Russian P-40 (designers choice). Looking at the P-40Ns #s it does not possess any spectacular performace being both slower in climb and speed to the P-39N/Q Aircobra...and lagging far behind the Bf 109G series and the Fw 190A in this setup.

Would the P-40F have been closer to the P-40K? possibly but I don't see a huge difference.

Constructive feedback and discussion is always welcome. :salute

...Dug up the enty date to the P-40K with the VVS they had them by December 1942 according to "Lend Lease Soviet Fighter Aces of WW2" just for info.



Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: viking73 on June 05, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
I just brought it up for the sake of accuracy.  :salute
Title: Re: JUNE FSO: Clash at Kursk
Post by: Nefarious on June 05, 2012, 04:12:43 PM
I just brought it up for the sake of accuracy.  :salute

It's sort of the same way the Axis have the Fw 190F8. Clearly the F-8 wasn't available at Kursk, but they did have earlier F models operating there and it allows the Luftwaffe to use the F model which played a significant role at Kursk. The Panzerblitz rockets were disabled to give it a similar armament.

This is done nearly every FSO. It's all about the combination of playability and accuracy/history.