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Title: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: SEseph on May 21, 2012, 04:06:04 PM
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii33/navyvet0001/190A8vB17.jpg)

Your Fatherland calls upon you to defend the Reich. Choose I./JG 1 as your place of service with the devastatingly powerful Fw190A-8. With it's heavy armor and firepower far superior to anything the allies have, no bomber will stand a chance against us! Send a care package home for once in the form of a flaming B-17 or bits of B-24. If interested, please send me a pm or post here so we can sign you into the axis forum.

SEseph
GL I./JG 1
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Shuffler on May 21, 2012, 04:57:10 PM
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii33/navyvet0001/190A8vB17.jpg)

Your Fatherland calls upon you to defend the Reich. Choose I./JG 1 as your place of service with the devastatingly powerful Fw190A-8. With it's heavy armor and firepower far superior to anything the allies have, no bomber will stand a chance against us! Send a care package home for once in the form of a flaming B-17 or bits of B-24. If interested, please send me a pm or post here so we can sign you into the axis forum.

SEseph
GL I./JG 1

Odd...... Usually any allied planes are much farther behind the 190s I have seen. ;)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: morfiend on May 21, 2012, 05:11:15 PM
Odd...... Usually any allied planes are much farther behind the 190s I have seen. ;)


  Looks like the 17 is using ratos to catch up! :devil





   :salute
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: USCH on May 21, 2012, 06:14:04 PM
A-8 with the bomb/drop tank rack cant catch a 17 over 32,000ft so it must have cought the 17 just after takeoff.. :noid
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: 999000 on May 21, 2012, 08:27:54 PM
SEseph, Those B17's will take everything you can throw at them and more! Do not die in vain for the father land...... SURRENDER!
999000 <S>
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Oldman731 on May 21, 2012, 08:38:23 PM
Odd...... Usually any allied planes are much farther behind the 190s I have seen. ;)


B-17 can dominate the A8 in a dogfight, except for dive capability.  That's why the A8 in the picture is trying for some separation.

- oldman
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Stampf on May 21, 2012, 09:19:47 PM
I think if we dig up the stats or maybe just rattle the collective memories a bit here...the FW190A-8 has more than proven itself as the most lethal of all prop driven machines in the Luftwaffe stable in a Scenario situation.

Throw in that they will be piloted by the cream of the surviving experten, over friendly territory and with no magic magnetic radiator to spoil the fun...well it's not surprising the allied boys are a bit afraid.  I applaud the efforts to hide this worrisome foreboding behind propaganda and bravado.  Really, I do.

The simple and unwavering fact is that, when it comes to DGS II...

...The Butcher Birds will soar.


FLY Luftwaffe!


Contact any of your local recruiting Geschwaders, for a chance to once again, demonstrate the might of the Luftwaffe and superiority of our fighting men and machines.

Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: ROC on May 21, 2012, 11:59:19 PM
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A-8 with the bomb/drop tank rack cant catch a 17 over 32,000ft so it must have cought the 17 just after takeoff.

Ahhh how often the young confuse "I can't do it" with "It can't be done"  :D

We'll see....
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Guppy35 on May 22, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
I think if we dig up the stats or maybe just rattle the collective memories a bit here...the FW190A-8 has more than proven itself as the most lethal of all prop driven machines in the Luftwaffe stable in a Scenario situation.

Throw in that they will be piloted by the cream of the surviving experten, over friendly territory and with no magic magnetic radiator to spoil the fun...well it's not surprising the allied boys are a bit afraid.  I applaud the efforts to hide this worrisome foreboding behind propaganda and bravado.  Really, I do.

The simple and unwavering fact is that, when it comes to DGS II...

...The Butcher Birds will soar.


FLY Luftwaffe!


Contact any of your local recruiting Geschwaders, for a chance to once again, demonstrate the might of the Luftwaffe and superiority of our fighting men and machines.



I'm sorry.  Your local recruiting Geschwader's phone is out of order.  The Mustangs of the 364th FG have seen to that :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DGS%20Scenario%20bits/364th3.jpg)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: cactuskooler on May 22, 2012, 12:23:27 AM
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/a8.jpg)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: USCH on May 22, 2012, 12:28:30 AM
Ahhh how often the young confuse "I can't do it" with "It can't be done"  :D

We'll see....
ya..please inform me of the top speed of an A8 at 32000ft and a B17, its true you can catch one, but youll be dead long befor you catch it from the rear. and the higher they get the more the a8's closure rate is decreased... good luck  :aok

FYI ive been in an A8 a damned good amount of time in the last 7years please inform me of how wrong i am...
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Guppy35 on May 22, 2012, 12:47:04 AM
ya..please inform me of the top speed of an A8 at 32000ft and a B17, its true you can catch one, but youll be dead long befor you catch it from the rear. and the higher they get the more the a8's closure rate is decreased... good luck  :aok

FYI ive been in an A8 a damned good amount of time in the last 7years please inform me of how wrong i am...

So don't fly it in the scenario.  Can't you see were trying to have some fun here and get fired up about the scenario?  :)

We surrender, you are the 190A8 god!  Relax and fly one or don't fly one in the scenario.  And if you do, and find a B17 at 32K, you'll be ahead of everyone else including the bomber pilots who won't be up that high.

I swear some folks just aren't ever gonna be pleased.  We could put you in a real 190A8 in 1944 and you'd probably tell us what's wrong with it!  :aok
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: ROC on May 22, 2012, 01:03:12 AM
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A-8 with the bomb/drop tank rack cant catch a 17 over 32,000ft
Wasn't that you?

Quote
its true you can catch one
and....you?

K, thanks for enlightening us. 

So, you can't catch one, but you can, and you will die if you try, but perhaps it's simply "you" will, but others might not.  Gotcha.  Glad you cleared that up.  Kinda like I said in the first place.
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: save on May 22, 2012, 02:33:23 AM
Sollution to B17 speed problem , maximize speed for formation flying to IRL numbers, or lose drones.

I have asked for this in wishlist, but so far, no response from HTC.

Im sure there is knowledge how fast a B17 formation of 3 could fly coherent.


Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Stampf on May 22, 2012, 09:33:31 AM
Above, below, infront or behind...the direction does not matter.  All that matters is that we are fighting men, sworn to the cause, and determined to defend our homes and the homes of our countrymen against the outlaw pirate raiders of the west.  Let them come...and we will rise up and meet them, with honor, the cold steel of the Luftwaffe aircraft, and iron will of the men who fly them.


It can be done.  It will be done!


(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/stampf/bogf2.jpg)


FLY Der Grosse Schlag II and...create The Experience!




Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Peyton on May 22, 2012, 10:16:09 AM
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii33/navyvet0001/190A8vB17.jpg)

Your Fatherland calls upon you to defend the Reich. Choose I./JG 1 as your place of service with the devastatingly powerful Fw190A-8. With it's heavy armor and firepower far superior to anything the allies have, no bomber will stand a chance against us! Send a care package home for once in the form of a flaming B-17 or bits of B-24. If interested, please send me a pm or post here so we can sign you into the axis forum.

SEseph
GL I./JG 1




Is the 190 A8 in AH modeled with armor plating?
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Stampf on May 22, 2012, 10:24:21 AM



Is the 190 A8 in AH modeled with armor plating?

Yes!  Ancient Nord Armor of Eminent Destruction.  It's literally impossible to die when flying one.



(seriously...yes..all 190's had armor plating to various degrees in differing locations and configurations and such are modeled accordingly).

Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: matt on May 22, 2012, 10:28:34 AM
 :headscratch: :bolt:
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: 999000 on May 22, 2012, 10:35:45 AM
It all starts with the engine oil hit, the pilot wound, blood spatter , and then the cutting off of the left wing ..it all happens in just a couple seconds. The Fatherland will be proud of you but you will be dead.
999000 <S>
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Peyton on May 22, 2012, 10:54:35 AM
It all starts with the engine oil hit, the pilot wound, blood spatter , and then the cutting off of the left wing ..it all happens in just a couple seconds. The Fatherland will be proud of you but you will be dead.
999000 <S>


Share some of your gunnery tricks and how to shoot when flying a B-17.
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: SEseph on May 22, 2012, 11:07:05 AM
It all starts with the engine oil hit, the pilot wound, blood spatter , and then the cutting off of the left wing ..it all happens in just a couple seconds. The Fatherland will be proud of you but you will be dead.
999000 <S>

We know of the allies secret weapon coded 999000 and we have a solution! We're just not going to get near the guns of this secret project. We've found that it is the easiest way of dealing with 999000 and all other methods have a less than 20% survival rate. We also know that there is only one operational 999000 unit currently and have dispatched an elite squad to take the unit's ethanol infused grain it uses for fuel.

The 999000 unit, while powerful, will be too little to stop the fires of might we will bring down on the invaders.  :t
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: ROC on May 22, 2012, 11:33:41 AM
I thought there would be more concern about 999000 but the bounty is only up to 2 sheep for him.   Odd, figured it'd be at least 6 or 7 by now.

Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Brooke on May 22, 2012, 01:24:01 PM
FW 190A-8's are bomber killers -- make no mistake about that.

Anyone thinking that B-17's will be at 32k is confused.  B-17's will be at 26k at highest.  Anyone thinking that an A8 can't catch a B-17 at 26k is confused.  At 26k, a FW 190A-8 is 60 mph faster than the B-17.  (Of course, A8's don't show up at 26k -- they show up higher and dive in.)

When bomber pilots see FW 190A-8's showing up, the reaction (expressed in G-rated terms) is "Uh oh."

My bomber group in the first Der Grosse Schlag when the A8's showed up:
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200710_derGrosseSchlag/pics/frame4/Image-0067.jpg)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Stampf on May 23, 2012, 08:48:47 AM

Watcha gonna do when we come for you...


(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/stampf/pf1.jpg)


Fly Der Grosse Schlag II


Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: SEseph on May 23, 2012, 10:51:44 AM
Watcha gonna do when we come for you...


(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/stampf/pf1.jpg)


Fly Der Grosse Schlag II




We also have Red tailed A-8's.  :aok (they were busy during the photo op killing Allied bombers)  :neener:
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Guppy35 on May 23, 2012, 11:17:30 AM
Who you kidding.  We know you were at the Seminar going over creative uses for broken 190s.  This being the latest in 1944 190A8 hat racks that were all the rage in Germany :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DGS%20Scenario%20bits/190wreck.jpg)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Slash27 on May 23, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
Watcha gonna do when we come for you...


(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/stampf/pf1.jpg)


Fly Der Grosse Schlag II



You're going to need more planes.
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Stampf on May 23, 2012, 11:44:49 AM
You're going to need more planes.

Thankfully, we can accommodate that request.  :aok
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Slash27 on May 23, 2012, 11:45:13 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: ROC on May 23, 2012, 02:29:09 PM
Guppy, you are the spin master!  Only you could take up a stolen A8 to try and learn it's secrets, perform the famous GuppyDive and try to pin it on the Axis.

You need to be in politics buddy, you are GOOOOOD!
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: GhostRider2110 on May 23, 2012, 02:55:55 PM
Who you kidding.  We know you were at the Seminar going over creative uses for broken 190s.  This being the latest in 1944 190A8 hat racks that were all the rage in Germany :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DGS%20Scenario%20bits/190wreck.jpg)

HA.. that's just the 190's "easy access to engine service mode"...  Well designed plane for the pilot AND the crew chief!!! 
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: SEseph on May 23, 2012, 03:17:43 PM
HA.. that's just the 190's "easy access to engine service mode"...  Well designed plane for the pilot AND the crew chief!!! 

 :rofl
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: morfiend on May 23, 2012, 03:35:16 PM
Guppy, you are the spin master!  Only you could take up a stolen A8 to try and learn it's secrets, perform the famous GuppyDive and try to pin it on the Axis.

You need to be in politics buddy, you are GOOOOOD!


  First thing I thought of when I saw the pic,who let corky get his hands on 1 of our 190's.

   Typical allied dweeb blaming us for their short comings! :devil

   Corky,stay on the ground the life you save could be your own!




    :salute
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Shuffler on May 23, 2012, 03:39:28 PM
Guppy, you are the spin master!  Only you could take up a stolen A8 to try and learn it's secrets, perform the famous GuppyDive and try to pin it on the Axis.

You need to be in politics buddy, you are GOOOOOD!

That is actually a pilot that was on Guppy's 6 and followed him in. Due to the Allies industrial might, he figures he can go plane for plane.
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: morfiend on May 23, 2012, 03:50:25 PM
That is actually a pilot that was on Guppy's 6 and followed him in. Due to the Allies industrial might, he firgures he can go plane for plane.


   :rofl :rofl :rofl



   :salute
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: ROC on May 23, 2012, 04:03:50 PM
Quote
at is actually a pilot that was on Guppy's 6 and followed him in. Due to the Allies industrial might, he figures he can go plane for plane.

LMAO ok, that one wins hands down as the best reason for that particular situation.
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Guppy35 on May 23, 2012, 04:39:45 PM
LMAO ok, that one wins hands down as the best reason for that particular situation.

16 years of flying cartoon planes and no one's killed me yet! 

But lets be clear on something.  If I'd have been piloting that 190, I'd have wrecked it with much more style!
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: morfiend on May 23, 2012, 07:00:18 PM
16 years of flying cartoon planes and no one's killed me yet! 

But lets be clear on something.  If I'd have been piloting that 190, I'd have wrecked it with much more style!


  Impossible,quality german construction doesnt allow for it!



    :salute
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: SEseph on May 25, 2012, 02:01:06 AM
You can almost feel the power and hear the screams of the bomber crews just by looking at one of these beauties.  :devil
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_pgmxuPRFcLs/S0-I_LWQ0nI/AAAAAAAABJY/1QoxVNRrDOc/s400/Fock+Wulf+FW+190+A-8.+Hasegawa+1-32+Scale..jpg)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Guppy35 on May 25, 2012, 02:17:56 AM
Yep I can feel the power....of those 6 50s emptying another 190 cockpit of it's pilot :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DGS%20Scenario%20bits/s_w12_05010145.jpg)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Oldman731 on May 25, 2012, 07:40:12 AM
You can almost feel the power and hear the screams of the bomber crews just by looking at one of these beauties. 


"He's mine!"

"No, mine!  I saw him first!"

"Hey!  It's my turn!"

- oldman
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Shuffler on May 25, 2012, 09:39:37 AM

  Impossible,quality german construction doesnt allow for it!



    :salute

Ok we'll call this maneuver... "The Power Plant"
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Stampf on May 25, 2012, 10:57:38 AM
Yep I can feel the power....of those 6 50s emptying another 190 cockpit of it's pilot :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DGS%20Scenario%20bits/s_w12_05010145.jpg)

Did the Allies ever score a victory over a Luftwaffe plane that actually had...gear up?

Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Guppy35 on May 25, 2012, 11:11:19 AM
They would have, but the LW pilots kept lowering them in the middle of the fight.  Why is that?   :)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Stampf on May 25, 2012, 11:21:01 AM
They would have, but the LW pilots kept lowering them in the middle of the fight.  Why is that?   :)

They knew someday HTC would need flight specs on the 190.



Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: ROC on May 25, 2012, 11:46:46 AM
Quote
Did the Allies ever score a victory over a Luftwaffe plane that actually had...gear up?

Hey, that reminds me, DrBone defected and went Allies.  We are going to have to look up before we launch  :rofl
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: morfiend on May 25, 2012, 11:50:47 AM
Ok we'll call this maneuver... "The Power Plant"



   :rofl




   :salute
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: RedBull1 on May 26, 2012, 01:35:09 AM
(http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Smile%20Animated%20Emoticons/eat%20sandwich%20and%20drink%20cola.gif)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: M1A1 on May 26, 2012, 07:03:25 AM
Whatever you LuftWAFFLE pilots have to tell yourselves to get to sleep at night is fine with me. Personally though if you think the bombers of the 44th won't turn you into a stainer then I'll take the bet and your money. Only it has to be allied money because I feel the Deutchemark is going to become less valuable in the near future.. :x
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: SEseph on May 27, 2012, 10:51:06 PM
Whatever you LuftWAFFLE pilots have to tell yourselves to get to sleep at night is fine with me. Personally though if you think the bombers of the 44th won't turn you into a stainer then I'll take the bet and your money. Only it has to be allied money because I feel the Deutchemark is going to become less valuable in the near future.. :x

I stain my paints daily with my powerful gas powered jet! I don't need your help with it thank you very much. BUT! I Promise you we will turn your bombers into colanders and you fighters into sieves!!!! :neener:
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: Guppy35 on May 27, 2012, 10:55:44 PM
I stain my paints daily with my powerful gas powered jet! I don't need your help with it thank you very much. BUT! I Promise you we will turn your bombers into colanders and you fighters into sieves!!!! :neener:

364th will be there to help you put the holes in planes :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DGS%20Scenario%20bits/Snap1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: M1A1 on May 28, 2012, 07:41:18 AM
So the LuftWaffle thinks that a tin can with a Supercharged washing machine for an engine is gonna help them shoot us down...Oh just like V-1 and 2s have brought the enemy to their knees...LMAO Man can't wait to buy the Schnapps at ridiculouslylow prices after the war!!!If it has these dunderkopts thinking they are gonna win just think what it will do for the victors!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: SEseph on May 28, 2012, 02:17:10 PM
So the LuftWaffle thinks that a tin can with a Supercharged washing machine for an engine is gonna help them shoot us down...Oh just like V-1 and 2s have brought the enemy to their knees...LMAO Man can't wait to buy the Schnapps at ridiculouslylow prices after the war!!!If it has these dunderkopts thinking they are gonna win just think what it will do for the victors!! :cheers:

Ah, I see you've found our Keeping the Peace Policy... Once we win, inorder to keep the revolts down, We're selling all the fun mind altering stuff so cheap that anyone can afford Miss Juni for a week or so. Dang allie spies.. don't be so open about you're knowledge of our impending victory. Let it be a surprise to the rest of your countrymen.  :noid
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: M1A1 on May 29, 2012, 05:44:30 PM
We also know about the faulty Cuckoo clocks youhave been smuggling into the Allied zone that keep bad time! Nice attempt at getting us to oversleep!!! :lol
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: SEseph on June 01, 2012, 03:01:51 PM
shameless bump  :banana:
Title: Re: Kill a Bomber, fly a Fw190A-8
Post by: ACE on June 01, 2012, 03:03:49 PM
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/a8.jpg)
Nice picture.