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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Mister Fork on May 22, 2012, 07:29:06 PM
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So put on your research caps. It's time to update HTC's Aircraft and Vehicle Service dates. :D
As a FYI, current service dates have been exhaustively researched and is one of the most accurate in-service lists on the Internet. I've also heard rumors other sites use this list for their research, but that's just a rumour. :p
Service dates are actual deployment dates or active combat - what ever evidence we have they were in active squadron use.
I'm missing a few Jap planes a scout and two tanks. If you have a service date for missing aircraft, you MUST reference your source.
And always, assistance is appreciated. :salute
Aircraft and Vehcile Service Dates
LAST Updated: September 16, 2010
Aircraft
USA
A-20G ... 5-42
B-17G ... 6-43
B-25C ... 1-41
B-25H ... 9-44
B-24J ... 5-43
B-26B ... 5-42
C-47A ... 12-41
P-38G ... 11-42
P-38J ... 12-43(ETO) 2-44(PTO)
P-38L ... 7-44
P-39D .... 10-41(ETO), 4-42(PTO), 5-42(EF)
P-39Q ... 10-43 (PTO) 11-43 (EF) 1-44 (MTO)
P-40B ... 1-41
P-40E ... 8-41
P-47D-11 ... 3-43(D5) to 1-44(D11)
P-47D-25 ... 5-44
P-47D-40 ... 1-45(ETO)
P-47N ... 6-45
P-51B ... 12-43(ETO),8-44(CBI)
P51D ... 5-44(ETO),1-45(CBI&PTO)
F4F-4 ... 9-41(ETO),5-42(PTO)
FM-2 ... 6-44(ETO),10-44(PTO)
F6F-5 ... 7-44
F4U-1 ... 2-43(ETO),4-44(ETO)
F4U-1A ... 7-43(PTO),12-43(ETO)
F4U-1D ... 1-45
F4U-1C ... 4-45
F4U-4 ... 4-45
F6F-5 ... 7-44
SBD-5 ... 5-43
TBM-3 ... 2-43
Britain
Boston MK III ... 5-41
Hurricane Mk I ... 5-40
Hurricane IIC ... 4-41
Hurricane IID ... 6-42
Lancaster III ... 3-42
Mosquito Mk VI ... 7-43(ETO),11-43(PTO&CBI)
Mosquito B.XVI ... 1-44(ETO)
Spitfire Mk IA ... 8-40
Seafire IIC ... 10-42,11-43(ETO)
Spitfire V ... 4-41
Spitfire VIII ... 7-43
Spitfire Mk IX ... 7-42
Spitfire Mk XIV ... 5-44,7-45(CBI)
Spitfire Mk XVI ... 7-44
Tempest V ... 5-44
Typhoon IB ... 11-43*
Finland
B-239 Brewster ... 3-40
Soviet
I-16... 1-40*
Il-2 Type 3 ... 10-42
La-5FN ... 3-43
La-7 ... 6-44
Yak-9T ... 1-43
Yak-9U ... 7/8-44
Italy
C.202 ... 11-41
C.205 ... 1-43
Japan
A6M2 ... 7-40
A6M5b ... 8-43
B5N2 ... 7-40
D3A-1 ... 7-40
Ki-61 ... 6-43
Ki-84-la ... 8-44 (CBI),10-44(PTO)
Ki-67 ... 4-44
N1K2-J ... 1-45
Germany
Ar 234B ... 12-44
Bf 109E-4 ... 5-40
Bf 109F-4 ... 6-41
Bf 109G-2 ... 6-42
Bf 109G-6 ... 2-43
Bf 109G-14 ... 7-44
Bf 109K-4 ... 10-44
Bf 110C-4b ... 8-40
Bf 110G-2 ... 5-42
Fw 190A-5 ... 6-43*
Fw 190A-8 ... 2-44
Fw 190D-9 ... 12-44
Fw 190F-8 ... 4-44
Ju 88A-4 ... 5-41
Me 262 ... 10-44
Me 163 ... 9-44
Ta 152H ... 1-45
Vehicles
USA
LVT(A)2 ...2-44
LVT(A)4 ...3-44
M-3 Halftrack...3-41
M-8 ...9-42
M-16 ...5-43
Sherman VC ...6-44(ETO)
M4A1 ...9-42(ETO), 1-43(PTO)
M4A3(76) ...7-44
Germany
Ostwind ... 8-44
Panzer IV Type H ... 8-44
Tiger I ...8-42
SdKfz 251...6-40
Wirbelwind...4-44
Soviet
T-34/76 ... 2-43
T-34/85 ...2-44
Theatres of Operations
ETO - Europe
MTO - Mediterranean
PTO - Pacific
CBI - China-Burma-India/CHINA-BURMA-INDIA
Notes:
* - due to the similiarity to earlier varients, this aircraft can be used as a substitute for earlier models.
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Typo on the f4u-1
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What are the date ranges for each Arena. Early, Mid and Late war? :)
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Only matters if there is a rolling planeset.
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What about the A6M3?
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Ok, so what am I missing?
A6M3
Storch
Panther
M-18
Me-410 (coming)
Typo on the f4u-1
- thanks 10thmd, I'll fix that. :salute
What I need for those are the Service Dates...(date they were active in combat or deployed for operational use).
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Ju87D-3
Ju87G-2
Panzer IV D
Panzer IV F
I know the Panzers are the same unit in AH, but the loadouts can be limited to force it to be a D or an F.
I'd also put a note on the T-34/76 indicating that it is similar to earlier models and can be used as a substitute.
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Here's a few I noticed were missing from the list:
A6M3 (model 32) 06/42 The Complete Book of WWII Combat Aircraft
P-40N (PTO) 06/43 Spitfire, Mustang and Kittyhawk
P-40F (MTO) 08/42 America's Hundred Thousand
P-40N (MTO) 04/43 America's Hundred Thousand
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The Panther joined Pz Abteilung 51 in January 1943
http://www.panther1944.de/de/sdkfz-171-pzkpfwg-panther/truppenteile/kurzchroniken-der-panthertruppenteile/164-iipzrgt-33-zeitweise-pzabt-51.html
(I have some print material around as well)
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Does anyone know exactly which Fi-156 variant we have?
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Does anyone know exactly which Fi-156 variant we have?
Don't think it matters. The Fi156, as the only cooperation aircraft we have, will be used in place of not only earlier versions of itself but also in place of the Grasshopper, Lysander and Po-2.
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According to German Aircraft of WW2 in Color, and confirmed by several online sources, the ME-410-A1 joined Luftwaffe units in January of 1943.
Interestingly enough, it was relegated to recon duties from the Summer of 1944 onward (with a cessation of production in September 1944)... I am not sure how this would/will affect its utilization in late-war scenarios.
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Fw 190 D-9 in-service date is wrong with 12/44:
III.JG 54 converted to the D-9 at the end of 9/44 and was full strength in 10/44
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biiijg54.html
II./JG 26 was the next group to receive them in 11/44
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biijg26.html
The Ta-152H sounds like one month too early.
The La-5FN is too early as well as in 3/44 the prototype first flew. The 32nd guards air corps is claimed to be the first operational with La-5FN and flew them in the battle of Kursk. 5/44 sounds like a more reasonable date.
La-7: 6/44 is when the first La-7 were assembled at Moscow plant #381. 7/44 should fit better.
I assume the Panzer IV Ausf. H must be some kind of typo - they were built from March 1943 and not late 1944.
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The La-5FN is too early as well as in 3/44 the prototype first flew. The 32nd guards air corps is claimed to be the first operational with La-5FN and flew them in the battle of Kursk. 5/44 sounds like a more reasonable date.
Are you sure you don't mean 1943, instead of 1944? The Battle of Kursk was in 1943.
As far a I can find, the 32nd GIAP first took the La-5FN into combat in July 1943 .
Ref: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=PN41wV_CiYMC&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=La-5FN+first+combat&source=bl&ots=y-HCTP-y9Y&sig=-4Ay8TZwgBOlao4qWwkoy5MeB2Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-tbXT5mzC6SiiAeYuJiNAw&ved=0CFgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=La-5FN%20first%20combat&f=false.
First deliveries occurred either late June or early July.
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Typo has bitten me again, for sure it should be 1943.
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The T70 prototype for the M18 first saw combat at Anzio, Italy, and production versions of the M18 were used in North-West Europe and Italy from the summer of 1944 onwards.
source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_Hellcat
I'm at work now but can see what else I can find later if this is not enought!
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Here's a few I noticed were missing from the list:
A6M3 (model 32) 06/42 The Complete Book of WWII Combat Aircraft
Confirmed by A6M Zero in Action, Shigeru Nohara, 1983
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The T70 prototype for the M18 first saw combat at Anzio, Italy, and production versions of the M18 were used in North-West Europe and Italy from the summer of 1944 onwards.
source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_Hellcat
I'm at work now but can see what else I can find later if this is not enought!
also
M-18
It first saw action in the Summer of 1944 in Europe.1 One unit to use it quite effectively was the 630th Tank Destroyer Battalion in July 1944 reported destroying 53 Panthers & Tigers and 15 self propelled guns with only a loss of 17 of their M18s.1
By 1945 most of the M18s were often deployed to the regular Armored Divisions as the separate tank destroyer battalion concept was dwendling.3 They were however used as assault guns or artillery.3
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/tank-destroyers/m18.asp
best I have found is July of 1944
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Thanks for this guys. I'm going to post a different topic with the aggregated updates. :salute