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Title: Sea Planes
Post by: Quigley on May 28, 2012, 02:55:44 PM
Would like to see some seaplanes.
PBY
Pete
Duck
N model A6M
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: shermanjr on May 28, 2012, 03:10:52 PM
a lancstuka does that job and more
but A +1 to the idea of scout seaplanes
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Rob52240 on May 28, 2012, 03:14:28 PM
Good luck fella
 :salute
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: guncrasher on May 28, 2012, 03:15:10 PM
i see some see planes everytime i log in.


semp
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Tank-Ace on May 28, 2012, 03:17:20 PM
I don't understand what the purpose of this would be. We already have the Storch at ports for recon work, and I think giving ports the ablity to spawn up aircraft capable of fighting would be a bit much.
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: shermanjr on May 28, 2012, 03:19:53 PM
well maybe to have those seaborne scout planes the ability to catapult off cruisers and such
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Tank-Ace on May 28, 2012, 03:26:39 PM
well maybe to have those seaborne scout planes the ability to catapult off cruisers and such

Thats what the carrier is for  :noid.
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: MAINER on May 29, 2012, 02:05:10 PM
I would like to have them in game. But there would be no way to implement them.
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Zexx on May 30, 2012, 05:10:04 AM
I think Sea Planes would be a great way to resupply P.T.'s operating independently of Task Force defense. In that way PBY's and similar Aircraft could  perform the same function as the C-47 or the M-3 for the land based counterparts. In light of this  the down side would be that P.T.'s often do not see the same level of action that their Land Based counterparts do  since they are restricted to which bases they can attack (ports, CV's, and Airfield in close proximity to large bodies of water.). Yes, the Storch does serve as a very good Scouting Platform, but the range is far more limited, and with Sea planes you could run more sorties. The biggest drawback is that these planes like the C-47 are slow and cumbersome in terms of  being able to match land  and carrier based fighters, and most were often very lightly armed in terms of defensive/offensive armament.

The list would include:

United States/Britain
PB2Y "Conrado"
PB4Y "Privateer"
OS2U "kingfisher" (operated from launch catapults from Cruisers and Battle ships such as BB55 the USS North Carolina)
Martin PBM-3/5 "Mariner"
Grumman G21 "Goose"
Fairey "Sea fox"

Germany:
Bv222 Wiking (viking)
Do22 "float Plane"
Do24
He115
Ar196 (single engine, single seat float plane)

Japan:
Aichi E13 "Jake"
Aichi E16A "Paul"
Aichi M6A "Seiran"
Kwanishi H6K "Mavis"
Kwanishi H8K "Emily"

While this list is by no means extensive, all of them were combat operational. The E13 and E16A, Ar196, OS2U "kingfisher" and the Fairey model are the most mentioned single engine float planes that i could find. The rest are Behemoths, to use the word liberally, and could be regulated to the roles I mentioned above. Being said, The Flying Boats probably would not make interesting additions to the game beyond the resupply/scout role and likely would be even more underused than the P.T.'s themselves. Still it would be an interesting sight to see in Game.
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Brownien on June 01, 2012, 11:39:30 PM
There is already a thread on this, and describing a completly different aspect on the use of Seaplanes.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,330450.0.html

 :salute
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: oakranger on June 02, 2012, 02:01:40 AM
I think Sea Planes would be a great way to resupply P.T.'s operating independently of Task Force defense. In that way PBY's and similar Aircraft could  perform the same function as the C-47 or the M-3 for the land based counterparts. In light of this  the down side would be that P.T.'s often do not see the same level of action that their Land Based counterparts do  since they are restricted to which bases they can attack (ports, CV's, and Airfield in close proximity to large bodies of water.). Yes, the Storch does serve as a very good Scouting Platform, but the range is far more limited, and with Sea planes you could run more sorties. The biggest drawback is that these planes like the C-47 are slow and cumbersome in terms of  being able to match land  and carrier based fighters, and most were often very lightly armed in terms of defensive/offensive armament.

The list would include:

United States/Britain
PB2Y "Conrado"
PB4Y "Privateer"
OS2U "kingfisher" (operated from launch catapults from Cruisers and Battle ships such as BB55 the USS North Carolina)
Martin PBM-3/5 "Mariner"
Grumman G21 "Goose"
Fairey "Sea fox"

Germany:
Bv222 Wiking (viking)
Do22 "float Plane"
Do24
He115
Ar196 (single engine, single seat float plane)

Japan:
Aichi E13 "Jake"
Aichi E16A "Paul"
Aichi M6A "Seiran"
Kwanishi H6K "Mavis"
Kwanishi H8K "Emily"

While this list is by no means extensive, all of them were combat operational. The E13 and E16A, Ar196, OS2U "kingfisher" and the Fairey model are the most mentioned single engine float planes that i could find. The rest are Behemoths, to use the word liberally, and could be regulated to the roles I mentioned above. Being said, The Flying Boats probably would not make interesting additions to the game beyond the resupply/scout role and likely would be even more underused than the P.T.'s themselves. Still it would be an interesting sight to see in Game.

+1
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Rino on June 02, 2012, 07:33:28 AM
     I suppose you could water-land a Privateer.............once :devil
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: talos on June 03, 2012, 05:54:16 AM
I don't understand what the purpose of this would be. We already have the Storch at ports for recon work, and I think giving ports the ablity to spawn up aircraft capable of fighting would be a bit much.


 :headscratch: Why?  whats wrong with ports being able to launch planes that could potentially save the base from being taken.....       ;) oh, I see what your saying here.


but seriously, i think it would and a new element to the fighting that we don't currently have  +1
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: SilverZ06 on June 03, 2012, 07:59:53 AM
I'd rather every port have an airfield like on that one map.
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Quigley on June 03, 2012, 03:07:50 PM
(http://art23.photozou.jp/pub/843/293843/photo/83296324_org.v1307283724.jpg)
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/1207/pics/65_5.jpg)

(http://ww2db.com/images/air_f1m_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Quigley on June 03, 2012, 03:08:58 PM
lets get these on the ships where they are suppose to be.

(http://www.ibiblio.org/phha/arizona/arizona12.jpg)
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Tank-Ace on June 03, 2012, 08:23:13 PM
Or you could, you know, use the carrier, and launch a fighter instead of a float plane with guns  :noid.
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: AceHavok on June 04, 2012, 03:50:30 AM
I think Sea Planes would be a great way to resupply P.T.'s operating independently of Task Force defense. In that way PBY's and similar Aircraft could  perform the same function as the C-47 or the M-3 for the land based counterparts. In light of this  the down side would be that P.T.'s often do not see the same level of action that their Land Based counterparts do  since they are restricted to which bases they can attack (ports, CV's, and Airfield in close proximity to large bodies of water.). Yes, the Storch does serve as a very good Scouting Platform, but the range is far more limited, and with Sea planes you could run more sorties. The biggest drawback is that these planes like the C-47 are slow and cumbersome in terms of  being able to match land  and carrier based fighters, and most were often very lightly armed in terms of defensive/offensive armament.

The list would include:

United States/Britain
PB2Y "Conrado"
PB4Y "Privateer"
OS2U "kingfisher" (operated from launch catapults from Cruisers and Battle ships such as BB55 the USS North Carolina)
Martin PBM-3/5 "Mariner"
Grumman G21 "Goose"
Fairey "Sea fox"

Germany:
Bv222 Wiking (viking)
Do22 "float Plane"
Do24
He115
Ar196 (single engine, single seat float plane)

Japan:
Aichi E13 "Jake"
Aichi E16A "Paul"
Aichi M6A "Seiran"
Kwanishi H6K "Mavis"
Kwanishi H8K "Emily"

While this list is by no means extensive, all of them were combat operational. The E13 and E16A, Ar196, OS2U "kingfisher" and the Fairey model are the most mentioned single engine float planes that i could find. The rest are Behemoths, to use the word liberally, and could be regulated to the roles I mentioned above. Being said, The Flying Boats probably would not make interesting additions to the game beyond the resupply/scout role and likely would be even more underused than the P.T.'s themselves. Still it would be an interesting sight to see in Game.


They also had a Ju-52 with floats. :)
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Corsair4u1234 on June 04, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
good idea. maybe add a feature where you could pick-up downed pilots, as this was the main function of the PBY.
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Tank-Ace on June 04, 2012, 08:33:03 PM
I REALLY don't understand what downed pilots you guys are refering to.

99.9% of players end sortie the instant they bail from the plane, and wouldn't wait for pick up even if they could hop back in a fresh plane, keep all their kills, and still have it count as one sortie.

Litterally, that would be the most useless function in the game, where the only time it could even potentially see use is in scenarios, if bailed pilots had to be picked up and brought back to their home field. however, even that would be impractical due to time limits.



I guarantee that you wouldn't pick up more than 1 pilot per day at the absolute max, and more likely would only pick up 1 pilot a week. And even thats being very optimistic.
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 04, 2012, 08:42:53 PM
good idea. maybe add a feature where you could pick-up downed pilots, as this was the main function of the PBY.

SAR was one of main functions of the PBY squadrons, not the only one.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: 4Prop on June 04, 2012, 08:46:38 PM
I think we would need to add subs before the seaplanes are added. if all we want to do is pick up downed pilots, up a PT
Title: Re: Sea Planes
Post by: AceHavok on June 04, 2012, 11:46:11 PM
good idea. maybe add a feature where you could pick-up downed pilots, as this was the main function of the PBY.

As AKAK said,  SAR was a huge function for the PBY.  Also,  Was a big player in recon due to it's extremely long range, the upper wing mostly had fuel in it.  It also did some Anti-Sub/Shipping duties.