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Title: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on May 31, 2012, 02:28:07 AM
I'm thinking of playing airsoft.  Anyone here play it frequently?  If you could give me some tips like,  What type of Airsoft gun, clothing, etc.  I was looking on ebay at a M1A1 Thompson.  going for around $150, it says it's full metal and wooden stock.  shooting around 400fps.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on May 31, 2012, 06:51:32 AM
Everything you will ever need in airsoft can be found here
 http://www.airsoftgi.com/index.php?mobile=false  (http://www.airsoftgi.com/index.php?mobile=false)

For $150, a great starter gun would be this
 http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=280_351&products_id=7284  (http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=280_351&products_id=7284)

Pay attention to what people say about different companies. For me personally, I use a KWA KM4, which runs around $370 but is absolutely superb. Also be careful about fps, because most playing fields, especially in Florida, have an fps limit of 400 or even 350 for cqb.

I run in mostly MILSIM events, the organization that runs these events tours around the country hosting at various military, government or unused properties. You have to be 18, and a competitive gear loadout such as mine will cost you around $1500, but believe me it is awesome.
 http://oplionclaws.com/  (http://oplionclaws.com/)

Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on May 31, 2012, 12:01:54 PM
Thanks Wild,

Actually a few days ago I was planning on getting the KM4 RIS,  The field I'm going to play at has a field limit of 450 fps.  About the Thompson.  I like it because it had really good reviews and It looks pretty damn sexy. :)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on May 31, 2012, 12:04:08 PM
Good to see ya by the way wild!   :salute  Been awhile since I've been on the game.  I'm planning to make a return in about a week. :)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Seanaldinho on May 31, 2012, 12:04:48 PM
I'm thinking of playing airsoft.  Anyone here play it frequently?  If you could give me some tips like,  What type of Airsoft gun, clothing, etc.  I was looking on ebay at a M1A1 Thompson.  going for around $150, it says it's full metal and wooden stock.  shooting around 400fps.

You need 2 full sets of this gear if you want to survive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrAIFP2pfew&list=WLB00FC89411DFC5EB&index=54&feature=plpp_video
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Jayhawk on May 31, 2012, 12:05:51 PM
Bathing suit and a straw, don't be a wimp.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Krupinski on May 31, 2012, 12:55:44 PM
I have an electric AK-74u that I'm trying to get rid of. PM me and I'll send you the specs.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on May 31, 2012, 01:55:25 PM
Bathing suit and a straw, don't be a wimp.

Going in boxers/T-shirt.  I'm hardcore yo.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on May 31, 2012, 02:06:35 PM
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7345

The limit at my field is 450fps and 6mm bb's.  I don't understand the difference with weights.  Does someone know if these bb's are 6mm?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Krupinski on May 31, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7345

The limit at my field is 450fps and 6mm bb's.  I don't understand the difference with weights.  Does someone know if these bb's are 6mm?

I always used .20g white BBs, you'll lose a bit of range but anything lighter than that and they carry with the slightest breeze.

Default BBs are 6mm, unless that page says they're anything different (I didn't see anything) they should be 6mm.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: MarineUS on May 31, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
Play paintball ;)


Or

Real men just shoot at each other with live rounds. F**k the pain.  :t
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: fbEagle on May 31, 2012, 02:37:37 PM
The heavier the BB usually the more accurate it is. also if its heavier it usually hurts worse lol
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on May 31, 2012, 02:41:17 PM
Considering getting back into it, been looking at airsplat for a good week, or I could go down to the local airsoft place and get a gun there. Since its summer I can get into the gas guns, although the place I go to uses a turbine heater to keep the place as warm as the summer so its perfect any time of year  :D
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on May 31, 2012, 02:43:20 PM
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7345

The limit at my field is 450fps and 6mm bb's.  I don't understand the difference with weights.  Does someone know if these bb's are 6mm?

All bbs are 6mm unless it says 8mm. For a gun with that fps, i recommend using .25g. This will make the fps go down by a bit, but will greatly improve accuracy and range. Do not use .12g.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on May 31, 2012, 03:05:23 PM
Play paintball ;)


Or

Real men just shoot at each other with live rounds. F**k the pain.  :t

I have played paintball. :D 

Hurts like hell though and you really don't have the space to move around.  The airsoft field I'm playing at has 75 acres of land. :)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on May 31, 2012, 03:06:40 PM
All bbs are 6mm unless it says 8mm. For a gun with that fps, i recommend using .25g. This will make the fps go down by a bit, but will greatly improve accuracy and range. Do not use .12g.

Thanks wild!

I always used .20g white BBs, you'll lose a bit of range but anything lighter than that and they carry with the slightest breeze.

Default BBs are 6mm, unless that page says they're anything different (I didn't see anything) they should be 6mm.

Thank you very much.  I wasn't sure about the weights, sizes, etc.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: MarineUS on May 31, 2012, 03:59:14 PM
I have played paintball. :D 

Hurts like hell though and you really don't have the space to move around.  The airsoft field I'm playing at has 75 acres of land. :)
Haha. I'm actually trying to open a paintball field. My grandmother is letting me use 173 acres down in Live Oak, FL.

Thinking maybe four fields.

Two wood-ball and two tournament style (Speed-ball) fields.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Motherland on May 31, 2012, 04:23:08 PM
You should really use .25g or heavier if you're breaking 300fps. They carry energy better, work better in conjunction with the hop-up and are less affected by the wind.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on May 31, 2012, 05:00:07 PM
Thanks Motherland.


Very nice, Marine.  I live about 20 min from Orlando. :P
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on May 31, 2012, 09:25:54 PM
Wait I'm confused.  6mm is always the default?

even if it's different weights?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Krupinski on May 31, 2012, 09:37:39 PM
Wait I'm confused.  6mm is always the default?

even if it's different weights?

Yes.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Motherland on May 31, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
Wait I'm confused.  6mm is always the default?

even if it's different weights?
There are only a few (1-2 at most) manufacturers that make any 8mm guns (Marushin or Maruzen and I think maybe Tanaka maybe are the only ones that come to mind), and even they make 6mm guns mostly.
You'll know if you're buying 8mm BB's because you'll get like 500 in a $30 pack.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: MarineUS on June 04, 2012, 02:11:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_z2CA-o13U&feature=g-all-u
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 04, 2012, 03:38:02 AM
I'm going to probably get the KingArms M1A1 Thompson,  It can shoot around 512 fps, what kind of bb would get that down to 400-450?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 04, 2012, 03:39:06 AM
Very cool video Marine,  Was that a scripted match?  The Iwo Jima thing at the end was pretty cool.  :lol
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: MarineUS on June 04, 2012, 04:16:24 AM
Very cool video Marine,  Was that a scripted match?  The Iwo Jima thing at the end was pretty cool.  :lol
Not sure. I wasn't there. No deserts where I live...just lots and lots of woods. :P
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 04, 2012, 03:03:07 PM
I heard someone say that the .20g bbs will reduce the fps by a decent amount, can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Krupinski on June 04, 2012, 03:12:16 PM
I heard someone say that the .20g bbs will reduce the fps by a decent amount, can anyone confirm?

You'll lose a bit of range, but .20g+ are 100x more accurate than .12g.

.12g BBs will still curve left, right, up, down if you have a hop-up.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 04, 2012, 03:24:19 PM
Ace, for a gun with that high fps, go with .25 or .28. Fps is not everything, and these heavier bb's will increase your accuracy and range tremendously.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 04, 2012, 03:41:36 PM
Yeah, I called up the field and they said that what it says on the box is a very slim chance that it actually goes 512fps.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Motherland on June 04, 2012, 05:29:22 PM
I heard someone say that the .20g bbs will reduce the fps by a decent amount, can anyone confirm?
You're trying to drive a something with more mass with the same amount of energy. Logically it will have a slower muzzle velocity.
FPS doesn't really mean much, however, and heavier bbs will always have a longer effective range as long as you can get them going 300FPS ish at the muzzle... below that things get a bit slow.
Really .20g bbs are the absolute lightest you should ever use. .12g bbs, as well as being way too light, are never well made. Casting nipples and deformities are terrible for accuracy, bbs should be as slow and regularly shaped and weighted as possible. When I was more into the sport Airsoft Elite bbs were the best bang for your buck, however other companies may have started putting out better stuff now.

But just as an example of bb weights, Tokyo Marui guns with fixed hopups are set for .25g bbs. These are Japanese guns with fairly low FPS (Japanese limit is 1J muzzle energy, Maruis usually shoot around 300FPS with a .2g). .2g bbs ARE light. Don't go lighter.

Also the advertized FPS, especially on a Chinese gun, will generally reflect the velocity you'll get with a brand new gun without a broken in spring with a .12g bb and a 30mph tailwind.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 04, 2012, 11:41:48 PM
Thanks Motherland,

I have decided to go with the Thompson.  I was looking at a lot of reviews and some people actually said for how short the barrel is, It's extremely accurate.  (Also, I think it looks pretty sexy)  :)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 04, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
I'm considering building an air soft tank with a friend this fall, Tiger tank with a breach load that uses the 40 mm grenade launcher shells, however I have no idea how an engine would couple to a hydraulic unit to power it, I have know how on how :( that stuff works, engine basics I have, hydraulics however not at all in a sense to use with a drive system
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 05, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
It doesn't necessarily need to have a hydraulic turret. If you take something like a John Deere Gators, up-armor it, and stick a long-barreled potato cannon on top, you get the same effect.

If you really want to go authentic, most MILSIM events will allow you to bring your own vehicle, and make a technical out of it. one guy actually mounted an airsoft .50 cal Browning to the bed of his truck. Was really sweet.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 05, 2012, 12:25:43 AM
It doesn't necessarily need to have a hydraulic turret. If you take something like a John Deere Gators, up-armor it, and stick a long-barreled potato cannon on top, you get the same effect.

If you really want to go authentic, most MILSIM events will allow you to bring your own vehicle, and make a technical out of it. one guy actually mounted an airsoft .50 cal Browning to the bed of his truck. Was really sweet.
Really don't want to have to get the dents out of my truck, I mean a piston pump drive to actually move the vehicle. I Want to make what these guys did but with air soft instead of paintball, design isn't a problem, friend already scaled it down to the exact proportions we need for a 3 man crew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2-JE_Skdf0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2-JE_Skdf0)

Once I get past the engine, hydraulics and treads problem I might have a chance  :rolleyes:

These guys have a company and will actually make those tanks for you if you have enough money, I figure building my own may save money if I can try to understand, I have basic tools, drills and nail gun, I'm planning on getting a welder, I asked a while back on here about them.

Here's the website of the people who made the tiger tank http://www.tankco.biz/ (http://www.tankco.biz/)
(http://12f1c4c6-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/wwwtankcobiz/config/8.jpg?attachauth=ANoY7cpNIjp_S3UMK3CP2Up6L_4iZrfvqXHO_OlMUKeBDgUqoyze4Sk7f4e2c2f9IWXxYaRaDa8fCYiw4y0zVnk0K86B_srW2Ca0p2zTmaBeVWbiobcoou0MZAKteHd7aAJSohYNjtKyKFvsInCtBL5SeEmisT2H-M37b1O_C4-YXTdGL53X11Jj5zkfjH22GCyjkN4jqeBVc21f2-zlct8rIvIdqrXDPQ%3D%3D&attredirects=0)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 05, 2012, 05:00:33 PM
The field I'm going to has about 3 or 4 tanks that they use occasionally.  I think they only use it when there is like 400+ players.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 05, 2012, 06:23:43 PM
The field I'm going to has about 3 or 4 tanks that they use occasionally.  I think they only use it when there is like 400+ players.
Are they home made? i've seen some that are real tanks but toned down for airsoft and paintball duty
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 05, 2012, 09:41:12 PM
Tanks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USJSYm2iJOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuYy9QowXuM&feature=related

Link 2:  Tank @ 1:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps5iQ72341U&feature=related
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 05, 2012, 09:46:42 PM
There's a company in Massachusetts that will actually build authentic, to-scale working replicas of German panther and tiger tanks. I always wanted to get one made, and modify the gun to fire an extremely long-barreled potato cannon.

Costs over 600k though. Just a wish I guess
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 05, 2012, 09:48:20 PM
Tanks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USJSYm2iJOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuYy9QowXuM&feature=related

Link 2:  Tank @ 1:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps5iQ72341U&feature=related
There's a company in Massachusetts that will actually build authentic, to-scale working replicas of German panther and tiger tanks. I always wanted to get one made, and modify the gun to fire an extremely long-barreled potato cannon.

Costs over 600k though. Just a wish I guess
Building your own saves money, however I do want something more sophisticated than a go kart with a  box on it :/
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 05, 2012, 09:50:12 PM
Guess you gotta get lucky with the lotto. :P
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 05, 2012, 09:54:40 PM
Still amazing, $600,000 for a replica tank?  I'm guess it doesn't have the 2 inches of sloped steel armor.  :D
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 05, 2012, 09:58:21 PM
Nah, me and my friend can build one for less than 10K with a full set of Hydroluic track drive, but what we are thinking right now is getting a design together, emailing that company I linked you and see how much they would require for a ply wood frame and turret with the engine, meand my friend could make the barrel, ammo rack and I have a few idea's for myself since i'd be driving, also I have a wicked cool paint job in mind :D
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 05, 2012, 10:00:15 PM
Is it an American Tank?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 05, 2012, 10:05:35 PM
Is it an American Tank?
Not sure, its going to be something completely custom, so since we designed it, and its being made by some Americans, so I assume it would be :P

I'll post the sketches when they are made, i'm thinking technical stuff, like a camera set up to allow me to see outside, some fans to keep it not so hot inside, and other idea's
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 05, 2012, 10:46:46 PM
by the way, here's just how awesome airsoft can really be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIFxrYkhK1g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIFxrYkhK1g)

this is a MILSIM event I attended in October in Muscatatuck, Indiana. It basically involved a "what-if" scenario about the Blackhawk Down incident in Somalia, 1993. it was generaly green versus tan, freedom fighters versus US Rangers. Rangers have to wear tri-color desert camoflauge and corresponding tan gear, while the freedom fighters had to wear OD uniforms. the Rangers were led by two veterans of Somalia, and the freedom fighters were led by a former Soviet VDV paratrooper. very authentic. this was a 72 hour event, and there was always action. best game i've ever been to.

another video of the same event, from the freedom fighters side. it is an hour long, though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBCxCWf35Vo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBCxCWf35Vo&feature=related)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 05, 2012, 10:59:08 PM
Sent an email to the guys at the company asking for an estimate with just the frame and engine and drive installed, made it formal as possible, i'll tell yall what they say.

If it works out it will be really cool cause the turret will be able to accompany airsoft and paintball separately if I go to different events, however i'm not counting my chickens before they hatch so I won't worry about it or stress

by the way, here's just how awesome airsoft can really be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIFxrYkhK1g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIFxrYkhK1g)

this is a MILSIM event I attended in October in Muscatatuck, Indiana. It basically involved a "what-if" scenario about the Blackhawk Down incident in Somalia, 1993. it was generaly green versus tan, freedom fighters versus US Rangers. Rangers have to wear tri-color desert camoflauge and corresponding tan gear, while the freedom fighters had to wear OD uniforms. the Rangers were led by two veterans of Somalia, and the freedom fighters were led by a former Soviet VDV paratrooper. very authentic. this was a 72 hour event, and there was always action. best game i've ever been to.

another video of the same event, from the freedom fighters side. it is an hour long, though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBCxCWf35Vo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBCxCWf35Vo&feature=related)
:lol I must ask, how do they replicate the stereotypical rubbish shots the Somalians had?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 05, 2012, 11:47:24 PM
Wow Wild, Amazing find.  Think for sharing!!  :x
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 06, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
Now I just gotta wait for the Airsoft to come in the mail. :(
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 06, 2012, 06:54:08 PM
At least the shipping was free, Does anyone know what some good gear would be?  I bought a pair of glasses,  I'm looking for a good hat that protects your neck and face.  If anyone knows a cheapish hat that would be awesome.  :banana:

Thanks,

Warthog
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 06, 2012, 06:55:48 PM
I have an electric AK-74u that I'm trying to get rid of. PM me and I'll send you the specs.


Sorry Krupinski,  I didn't see your post. :(

I'm not a big fan of a AK,  but thanks for your offer! :)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 06, 2012, 09:16:26 PM
Might consider getting a gas powered rifle, not sure yet, a bit of exercise would do me good even if all i'm using is my Dragon :D
(http://www.airsoftshogun.com/media/store1282/Global/Ebay/AE-8801-T/AE-8801-T-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 06, 2012, 09:50:08 PM
At least the shipping was free, Does anyone know what some good gear would be?  I bought a pair of glasses,  I'm looking for a good hat that protects your neck and face.  If anyone knows a cheapish hat that would be awesome.  :banana:

Thanks,

Warthog

get full wrap-around eye protection. doesn't need to be an ugly paintball facemask, but most fields require some kind of full eye protection, i.e. goggles. Especially if you're going to be playing at Combat City, they say no shooting glasses allowed. don't think you wasted money, though, you could use them out at the range, or for working with tools.

here's my "light" kit, the stuff i use for going out on a weekend with my buddies:
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_99&products_id=3891 (http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_99&products_id=3891)
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_97&products_id=6353 (http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_97&products_id=6353)
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_173&products_id=3833 (http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_173&products_id=3833)
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_292&products_id=10376 (http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_292&products_id=10376)

on my head i wear a Tampa Bay Rays baseball cap. the shemagh is used as a wrap to protect my neck, and it really does help. On my feet i have a pair of stryker boots that you can find at any surplus store, and i wear a black T-shirt with OD pants.

by the way one thing to consider, i think your gun comes with a high-capacity magazine. while there is nothing wrong with using one, I personally prefer mid-caps. they still hold 75-120 rounds depending on the gun, but are spring-fed, and don't need any sort of winding up. it feeds much smoother and doesn't rattle around either. for your particular gun, there is this 5-mag box set, currently out of stock but AirsoftGI is usually good on getting things re-stocked quickly.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=60_112_276&products_id=4592 (http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=60_112_276&products_id=4592)

you also do not want to use the little bag of bbs that come with the gun. the quality is not only poor, but so much so that it can actually damage your gun. don't buy bbs from walmart or sports authority, either. use something like these:

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_44_193&products_id=3938 (http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_44_193&products_id=3938)

I hope you get into the sport, it really is a blast
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 06, 2012, 10:17:55 PM
Confused, I did buy a pair of Full protection glass and not the full mask like in paintball.  Is that aloud?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 06, 2012, 10:19:04 PM
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Smith_Wesson_Magnum_Series_Gold_Metallic_Mirror_lens_safety_glasses/777

Glasses.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 06, 2012, 10:27:06 PM
It just needs to create a seal around your eyes, so bbs shot from the side won't catch the inside of your glasses and ricochet into your eye. So, shooting glasses aren't allowed, just goggles. You don't need a mask, and I personally don't like masks anyways
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 06, 2012, 10:27:56 PM
Are those good?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 06, 2012, 10:39:03 PM
Thanks for the links Wild,  I think i might have to wait on some of the gear, like the vest, and goggles.  Those Thompson mags are actually really decently priced.  110 rounds would be very helpful.  Have you play seen a Thompson in action in your time of playing airsoft? 
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 06, 2012, 10:41:11 PM
Masks are a pain, can't aim with em on
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 06, 2012, 10:54:54 PM
Are those good?

Unfortunately, they are not. However if you want, I can mail over an old pair of my goggles just for the price of shipping. I'm back in Florida now so we don't live too far away, anyways.

I have seen a few Thompsons, and in the airsoft world they are fairly decent in mid-range engagements. The reason most go with the M4 is because it is the most customizable, and compatible with just about everything. Same with the AK series. The Thompson is unique though, and you will find great use for it.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 06, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
Thanks for the offer Wild!  I think these glasses might work at the field, I went to there website and saw people wearing similar glasses.  If they do turn me down, I'll shoot you a PM. :)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 07, 2012, 01:16:20 PM
Wild,  Do you think the Thompson is a good hybrid weapon?  Like is it good for woodland battles or skirmishes?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Butcher on June 07, 2012, 01:25:10 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wd42-hfHADc/T6A-cjEERFI/AAAAAAAABH4/YPw5JvpqEVc/s1600/1.jpg)

Came to post this, leaving satisified.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 07, 2012, 01:41:21 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 07, 2012, 07:43:13 PM
What I meant is, I got a higher up Thompson not the cheap plastic kinds.  Will it be good for almost any type of skirmishes?  Like woodland fights, CQB, and others?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 10, 2012, 12:13:42 AM
GOT IT!  It's a beast!   :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 10, 2012, 02:07:48 AM
GOT IT!  It's a beast!   :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Pics?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 10, 2012, 10:51:57 AM
Sure, I'll post in a day or so. :rock
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 11, 2012, 12:08:56 AM
Played some great games today,  I need to buy a larger mag for my Thompson.  It only has a 60 round mag and that empties in like 5 seconds.  I found a high cap magazine that hold 380 rounds.  Can anyone confirm that all the Thompson mags are compatible with each-other? 



Thanks,

Warthog
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 11, 2012, 02:05:54 AM
Played some great games today,  I need to buy a larger mag for my Thompson.  It only has a 60 round mag and that empties in like 5 seconds.  I found a high cap magazine that hold 380 rounds.  Can anyone confirm that all the Thompson mags are compatible with each-other? 



Thanks,

Warthog
It should say what kind of Thompson its compatible with
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 11, 2012, 05:57:33 AM
Tokyo Marui mags won't be compatible, but I think king arms makes its own mags.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 11, 2012, 11:30:22 PM
Thanks,  I just bought a 380rd magazine.  Hopefully that will help me reload less. :)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Krupinski on June 12, 2012, 12:01:17 AM
Thanks,  I just bought a 380rd magazine.  Hopefully that will help me reload less. :)

Only one?  I'd buy 3.  :D
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 12, 2012, 12:01:53 AM
Pictures:

http://puu.sh/AnyX

http://puu.sh/AnzI



Couldn't be asked to make a photobucket account,  So I just used a instant screen capture  (which is amazing).  Anyways,  That's the airsoft gun I got.  It weighs around 7Ib's has a rate of fire of around 600rds/min.  Very accurate.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 12, 2012, 12:02:52 AM
Only one?  I'd buy 3.  :D


First thing my parents would say is.  'Get a job' haha.   :rofl  :banana:

Speaking of jobs,  I did try to apply for one.  Unfortunately, I didn't get a reply. :(
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Seanaldinho on June 12, 2012, 08:52:02 AM

Speaking of jobs,  I did try to apply for one.  Unfortunately, I didn't get a reply. :(

Theres your problem, Ive applied to half a dozen places and still havent been hired.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 12, 2012, 09:39:06 AM
First place I applied for hired me off that bat, now i'm working with my best friend making 8 dollars an hour :D
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 13, 2012, 01:35:31 AM
I'm probably going to apply for a game stop or something when I hit 17. :P
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Hoffman on June 13, 2012, 11:14:31 PM
Wow I'm looking into getting an outdoor weekend hobby and this sure looks like fun. (And a great use of all my old ROTC gear taking space in my closet)  Anyone know if there's a group that plays anywhere near Austin, Texas?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Zexx on June 14, 2012, 04:25:26 PM
Not that really applies to Air soft directly, but indirectly I plan on opening a MILSIM field for laser tag that uses AIR SOFT rifles and a scope mounted laser emitters. The company is primarily in the planning stages, but the feed back I have gotten from kids of all ages is that they absolutely love the idea.

The concept will run a handful of scenarios weekly, with semi annual and annual events in timed game bloc of 30 minutes apiece complete with Field and mission brief. There is a perk program for return players, First responders, and Military ( to include Retirees and National Guard).
So my question for The Air soft players is simple: What types of Games do you prefer? MILSIM scenario based, Individual death match?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 15, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
Zexx,  Would this be indoor or outdoor?

If it was indoor:  In my opinion I would like to see a little town made of things like plywood with a good amount of buildings.  So you can have a CQB, Capture the flag, and other types of small space games.

If it was outdoor:  My opinion would be a nice large field, with little towns made into it.  Now,  with the outdoor.  You could probably do a Capture the flag games and just fun death matches.

I don't know what kind of environment you need for laser tag,  does light effect that lasers in anyway? 


These are all my opinions thought,  I'm not business adviser or anything.


Warthog
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 15, 2012, 10:01:42 PM
Does anyone know if Cybergun Thompson mags work for King Arms?  I heard somewhere that most are compatible could anyone confirm please?


Thanks,

Warthog
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 15, 2012, 10:14:45 PM
Got my first pay check, gonna go grab some bb's and green gas and do a round Sunday, hope i'm up to it, its been forever
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 16, 2012, 02:07:12 AM
Cybergun might be compatible, but I'd stick with King Arms. You don't want cheap stuff ruining your gun
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Zexx on June 16, 2012, 05:04:06 PM
Zexx,  Would this be indoor or outdoor?

If it was indoor:  In my opinion I would like to see a little town made of things like plywood with a good amount of buildings.  So you can have a CQB, Capture the flag, and other types of small space games.

If it was outdoor:  My opinion would be a nice large field, with little towns made into it.  Now,  with the outdoor.  You could probably do a Capture the flag games and just fun death matches.

I don't know what kind of environment you need for laser tag,  does light effect that lasers in anyway? 


These are all my opinions thought,  I'm not business adviser or anything.


Warthog


Ace,

Its a Outdoor arena on about 3 acres of land to start with. My business plan calls for rapid expansion to a nominal 5 acres.  But to answer your question, most laser aren't degraded by sun light as they are IR (infra-red), however in rain and snow they degrade some what. Most Lasers on the market can shoot up to 150-300m. The set I plan to use have a max range of 250m making them perfect for the CQB's that I plan to run on my field(s).

I plan on doing theme nights.  Capture the Flag, King of the Hill, Infection (Zombie Apocalypse), and others. These games will be run in and around 8'x40', and 8'x20' milvans (corrugated steel shipping containers) that are placed and/or  mated together to form a small city block (typical  city block on average is 660'x 660', but realistically they can be as big or as small as the city planner needs them to be). So the average City block could hold in excess of 200 Milvans easily. The plan calls for multilevel structures and single level structures. It also allows for Parking and concessions...

I know this seems to be a topic Hijack, but it's not since I am using Air soft guns and what I'm running can easily be converted into an Air soft field within minutes.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 17, 2012, 10:30:00 PM

Ace,

Its a Outdoor arena on about 3 acres of land to start with. My business plan calls for rapid expansion to a nominal 5 acres.  But to answer your question, most laser aren't degraded by sun light as they are IR (infra-red), however in rain and snow they degrade some what. Most Lasers on the market can shoot up to 150-300m. The set I plan to use have a max range of 250m making them perfect for the CQB's that I plan to run on my field(s).

I plan on doing theme nights.  Capture the Flag, King of the Hill, Infection (Zombie Apocalypse), and others. These games will be run in and around 8'x40', and 8'x20' milvans (corrugated steel shipping containers) that are placed and/or  mated together to form a small city block (typical  city block on average is 660'x 660', but realistically they can be as big or as small as the city planner needs them to be). So the average City block could hold in excess of 200 Milvans easily. The plan calls for multilevel structures and single level structures. It also allows for Parking and concessions...

I know this seems to be a topic Hijack, but it's not since I am using Air soft guns and what I'm running can easily be converted into an Air soft field within minutes.


Nah, Vexx your question is completely valid and on topic. :P  I do like the idea of the airsoft field.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 17, 2012, 10:31:54 PM
Also, My King Arm's Thompson for some reason jammed.  No bbs will feed into the gun and it refuses to fire.  It looks like the fire mech is jammed?  Anyone have any tips?

I already put the ramrod in and there where no bbs in the barrel.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 18, 2012, 06:12:26 AM
make sure your magazine is wound up correctly. will it not fire even when you wind up the magazine?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 18, 2012, 12:52:55 PM
No,  The spring in the gun actually jammed,  I have a low cap magazine so there is no wheel on it.  Any help? :S


I made sure the battery is fully charged.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 18, 2012, 03:23:09 PM
Has anyone ever had this problem before?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 18, 2012, 06:14:56 PM
Would it be possible to take some pictures? I think your gun has a version 2 gearbox, you could look into that on airsoftgi.com

They have a great help center and can help you with just about anything. You could even send it in to get fixed as a last resort, even if you didn't buy from there. Maybe the problem is with the quality of the bbs you are using, maybe one broke inside the gearbox. Let me know what you find out, I can help you but as it is right now I'm kinda shooting in the dark.

 :salute
 
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 18, 2012, 10:01:53 PM
It's kinda odd,  The cocking mech is working fine but,  When i cock it back the spring is completely like wedged and won't move.  It won't take any bbs or fire for that matter, it's really hard to show a picture.  I don't want to open the gun because I won't be able to send it back because of the warranty.   :headscratch:
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Motherland on June 19, 2012, 05:34:11 PM
It's kinda odd,  The cocking mech is working fine but,  When i cock it back the spring is completely like wedged and won't move.  It won't take any bbs or fire for that matter, it's really hard to show a picture.  I don't want to open the gun because I won't be able to send it back because of the warranty.   :headscratch:
Unless King Arms has done something magical (which usually these things are just Marui clones so..) the charging handle is completely nonfunctional.
It's also NOT a V.2/3 gearbox if it's a Marui clone, I think it's 6 or 8. Whatever Marui used in the M14 IIRC, it's been a while.
The important thing is, does the gearbox cycle? Don't worry about firing or anything coming out of the barrel, what happens when you pull the trigger?

Did a bit of research and the gun does appear to be a Marui clone with a version 6 gearbox. This does mean it's not compatible with V.2/3 parts (not that all v.2/3 parts are compatible with each other anyway, there's just a fair amount of crossover between them and they're the most widely used gearboxes), but this design has been around for a while now so it's not like parts aren't widely available.

Also, by knowing how something works it's usually easier to figure out where problems may be arising. This is my experience, at least. This is a generic illustration of an AEG gearbox/firing mechanism. They all work the same way, just with different geometries/layouts; this is a V.2 box
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/AEG.gif)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 19, 2012, 10:29:45 PM
When I press the trigger the cogs do not rotate, the spring seems to be stuck in position.  The rounds will not feed into the barrel of the gun.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Wildcat1 on June 19, 2012, 10:42:41 PM
Did you over charge the battery?
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 19, 2012, 11:25:25 PM
No, It was properly charged.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Motherland on June 20, 2012, 02:16:14 AM
When I press the trigger the cogs do not rotate, the spring seems to be stuck in position.  The rounds will not feed into the barrel of the gun.
Can you hear the motor trying to turn the gears or is it completely dead?
You might have the spring stuck at the fully compressed part of the cycle and the battery/motor doesn't have enough juice to get it the rest of the way from that point, that's a problem I've had a fair bit with my guns. You can do a couple of things here. First would be try to reset the gearbox to the "piston fully forward" position by moving the anti reversal latch out of the way that keeps the gearbox from moving back in the cycle. I know you can do this by just taking the grip + motor off on certain gun/gearbox designs and grabbing the antireversal latch with some needle nose pliers (used to do it a lot on my AKs) but I'm not sure if you can do this with a v.6, or if you'd want to. Looking at some pictures/videos of open v.6 gearboxes it looks like it should be possible to get at the antireversal latch by this method and then pushing on it to reset the gearbox, but it'll depend on the geometry of the gearbox and exactly how much space is between the bevel gear and the gearbox.

The other option is to try to put more juice through your motor. Either try recharging your battery and doing it on a fresh charge, or maybe find someone with a 9.6v batter and see if that goes (I've used this method as well before, definitely).

If the motor's making no noise at all when you pull the trigger, even on a fresh charge, then you've probably got something disconnected in the wiring or a blown fuse (if King Arms puts fuses in their guns, as it's a Marui clone there'll be enough space for one but some clone manufacturers don't put in fuses anyway). It's probably in the buttstock like on an AK.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 20, 2012, 07:01:05 PM
I called the company I got the airsoft gun from,  They will send me a brand new one.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 24, 2012, 02:22:07 PM
Anyone know any lower priced high cap magazines for King Arm's Thompsons?  I looked all over and it's all outrageous shipping prices.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Motherland on June 24, 2012, 03:29:42 PM
Are you guys sure magazines for the Marui Thompson aren't compatible? Everything I've seen seems to indicate the KA is just a clone and the mags are indeed compatible.
All the websites I've seen explicitly state that they are cross-compatible as well.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 24, 2012, 07:42:08 PM
I've looked into that too, All the pictures I've seen of them look almost identical to the ones King Arm's sells.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 24, 2012, 08:01:14 PM
Just bought a 380 round high cap magazine.  Can't wait to get back on the field. :)
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on June 30, 2012, 09:29:32 PM
Got the magazine today, Didn't run out of ammo one time in all the games I played today. :)

Note to self: Shotguns hurt.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: Hoffman on July 01, 2012, 03:01:10 PM
Wooo! Played my first airsoft skirmish today.  What a blast, and dear heavens I've managed to let myself get fat and out of shape, 5 minutes of IMT and I'm panting like a dog.

Played 6 games in all with about 15 people (off-day for Austin Airsoft).

Running a Classic Army LWRCM6 AEG.  This week I'll be getting my side-arm (KWA 1911) for close quarters and I'll be heading to Operation: Texas Star this Saturday with a bunch of us from Austin.

Lots of fun.
Title: Re: Airsoft
Post by: AceHavok on July 02, 2012, 12:43:22 AM
It's an amazing sport.  :aok