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Title: New airbus design
Post by: Tupac on June 28, 2012, 04:52:53 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/552433_10150888379501314_1016391492_n.jpg)

It's....uhh....unique. I'm curious how the scale model will perform in the wind tunnel.
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Tupac on June 28, 2012, 04:56:11 PM
I think it is an interesting concept, however. I like things with big propellers.
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Seanaldinho on June 28, 2012, 05:04:03 PM
Probably would fly like a whale but nonethe less i have always had a thing for push props.
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Tupac on June 28, 2012, 05:11:22 PM
What happens if one side gets filled up with supermodels and the other side gets filled up with buffet busters?
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Tec on June 28, 2012, 05:31:56 PM
I like things with big propellers.

I like things with forward swept wings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1wXsygQTVA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1wXsygQTVA)
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: tmetal on June 28, 2012, 05:57:30 PM
one side for coach/buisness class passengers and the other side for 20 first class passengers complete with a roller rink, billiards room, full bar, 2 bowling lanes, health spa, and smokers lounge.  :cheers:
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: SEraider on June 28, 2012, 07:13:21 PM
How in the hell will they line up on the runway?  :bhead
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: GScholz on June 28, 2012, 07:24:31 PM
Seems like an interesting way to get two fuselages into the same space as a single-fuselage normal airliner. If the wingspan is similar to a typical A320/B737 there would be no runway issues. Though I wonder how they will get it to a gate with two separate fuselages.
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: saggs on June 28, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
I think it is an interesting concept, however. I like things with big propellers.

Me too, that's why I'm sad the the Unducted Fan and Ultra High Bypass engines they where testing in the 80's never caught on.    With high oil prices you think they would since they are more efficient, as I understand it they never figured out how to make them quiet enough. T hat drawing looks like the idea is pusher/puller UDF engines.

(http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Rarebird/Images/0809.jpg)
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: smoe on June 29, 2012, 11:03:10 AM
It would never work for two reasons. One, the engines need to be placed so if one burns/falls off the other engine won't be damaged. Second, placing a prop in turbolent air (such as behind a wing) will reek havoc on the prop blades.
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: GScholz on June 29, 2012, 12:18:45 PM
Yes because it's never been done before...

(http://cdn.globalaircraft.org/media/img/planes/lowres/b-36_1.jpg)

(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/YankeeAirMuseum2003/Sampler/O2BankingHard.jpg)
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Noir on June 29, 2012, 12:21:35 PM
I don't think that design is new, IIRC its one of the alternative ideas considered for the A380
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: B4Buster on June 29, 2012, 12:23:21 PM
It would never work for two reasons. One, the engines need to be placed so if one burns/falls off the other engine won't be damaged. Second, placing a prop in turbolent air (such as behind a wing) will reek havoc on the prop blades.

A friend of mine flew the Piaggio 180 for Avant Air. He said they are nice flying airplanes.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/B4B/piaggio_p180_avanti_ii_a1.jpg)
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Nathan60 on June 29, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
I think the guy was just trolling for pics of pusher planes.
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Shuffler on June 29, 2012, 12:27:33 PM
Me too, that's why I'm sad the the Unducted Fan and Ultra High Bypass engines they where testing in the 80's never caught on.    With high oil prices you think they would since they are more efficient, as I understand it they never figured out how to make them quiet enough. T hat drawing looks like the idea is pusher/puller UDF engines.

(http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Rarebird/Images/0809.jpg)

Extremely loud
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Seanaldinho on June 29, 2012, 01:46:57 PM
I think the guy was just trolling for pics of pusher planes.

Who can blame em?

That Piaggio is a good lookin plane  :aok
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Tupac on June 29, 2012, 02:21:06 PM
yall are forgetting the most important pusher

(http://wright.nasa.gov/airplane/Images/1903.gif)
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: B4Buster on June 29, 2012, 02:40:49 PM
I think the guy was just trolling for pics of pusher planes.

 :rofl

Who can blame em?

That Piaggio is a good lookin plane  :aok

 :aok
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Tordon22 on June 29, 2012, 04:18:34 PM
Word on the street is that they tried to put those pt6's on the piaggio in a pull configuration. But when they saw what they were supposed to be pulling around, most just imploded rather than be forced to service that monstrosity.
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: saggs on June 29, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
That Piaggio is a good lookin plane  :aok

Meh....  I've always thought of Piaggio as the fat, ugly stepsister or the Beech Starship, which IS beautiful.

(http://rps3.com/Images/Pages/Starship/Starship%20page/star1385%2012x9%20lg.jpg)
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Seanaldinho on June 29, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
Meh....  I've always though of Piaggio as the fat ugly stepsister or the Beech Starship, which IS beautiful.

(http://rps3.com/Images/Pages/Starship/Starship%20page/star1385%2012x9%20lg.jpg)

Ive always thought the beech was pretty too but they missed the mark I think. The winglets always looked to big to me.
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: B4Buster on June 29, 2012, 08:34:09 PM
saggs, I'm a Beech guy myself so I can't disagree with you that the Starship is better looking.

The Piaggio a fat ugly step sister, though? Come on  :)
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: mbailey on June 29, 2012, 08:47:03 PM
saggs, I'm a Beech guy myself so I can't disagree with you that the Starship is better looking.

The Piaggio a fat ugly step sister, though? Come on  :)


Theres a metaphor in this picture that explains your comment   :D

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/916229.png)
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: Dragon on June 29, 2012, 08:55:01 PM
Meh....  I've always thought of Piaggio as the fat, ugly stepsister or the Beech Starship, which IS beautiful.

(http://rps3.com/Images/Pages/Starship/Starship%20page/star1385%2012x9%20lg.jpg)

Looks like a catfish.  I like it!
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: fbEagle on July 02, 2012, 12:06:40 AM
I still like my engine up front where i can see it...    :airplane:
Title: Re: New airbus design
Post by: deSelys on July 02, 2012, 09:52:37 AM
I remember reading pilot reviews of the Starship and the Piaggio.


The only comparison item where the Starship was ahead was the looks. The Piaggio had it beat on everything else...

edit: one link to illustrate this http://gravityloss.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/starship-vs-avanti/ (http://gravityloss.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/starship-vs-avanti/)