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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Citabria on July 06, 2012, 06:33:03 AM
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I like this arena a lot and the ww1 planes offer about as much turn and burn as quickly as possible. it is the first place I look when I want to dogfight in a place where no ones first thought is to run away or join a horde. the general attitude of the small following is they want to dogfight and most prefer to 1v1 or 2v2. switching to balance the sides is also pretty standard in there.
but when the population hits 0 theres nothing to do while waiting for a fight to start and numbers to build.
it lacks the depth and the total war aspect of the MA with no ground war or bombing or capture mechanics.
the general view of the players is the arena was a proof of concept that has been abandoned when it wasn't able to attract a steady 24/7 crowd.
Is there any plans to develop this arena that can be shared?
it dosn't even have to be somthing you have planned. resources are alocated to give the most bang for the buck we all understand that and know the late War MA is the prime zone of the game.
but what would you like to see happen with the ww1 arena in the long run in the most general sense of what would increase its fun factor? new game mechanics? more planes? ground vehicles? blimps, balloons? capture mechanics or strat? etc.
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Super Fokker
and that is about it, WWI sadly does not appeal to me although I love a turn fight. There is no verticle fighting, no flaps, virtually unlimited ammo/ fuel due to the small amount of ammo it takes to kill another plane, and the short distance between fields. It is just not my thing unfortunately, I would much rather see Main Arena improvements, but that of course is just my opinion, to those of you who love WWI with a passion however, more power to you :rock :cheers:
:salute
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a couple more planes *cough* SPAD *cough* would be a start
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This is only my opinion but I don't see HTC wasting more resources on the WWI arena. I tried FlyBoys and Rise of Flight WWI games and got bored with them pretty fast. At least in Rise of Flight there are correct speed and clime differences in plane models that can be used to your advantage. To me all our planes are target drones for the Fokker triplane. I myself would rather see attention and resources going to the MA.
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Would hate to see any additional resourses put into the WWI arena. I never used it, I have no plans to use it in the future. From the numberss that I see when I log in, neither does anyone else. Please use any R&D resourses to improve game play in the areans.
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I'd prefer they spend their time on the WWII arenas that we all came here for.
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I love the WWI arena, but like Citabria said, sometimes one can't find even another soul in the arena, let alone a good dozen or more. It is a great break from the ordinary and most people in that arena have a desire to fight on a somewhat level playing field. Infact, everything Citabria said is spot on. I do hope they do some work to it to make it a little more appealing, I just hope any changes don't alter how the players in there conduct themselves.
As for the Triplanes dominating... Not really. It's truly about the pilot and aim. Get into a 2v2 and it's even more apparent.
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That was a blast Super plower.
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My post from less than a week ago that no one responded to:
I logged in today and noticed there were about 6 people in the WWI arena. Went to the LWA which didn't look like much fun so jumped into WWI. It was a blast but I only had time for a couple of sorites.
Logged back on late tonight for an hour of flying thinking WWI would be a ghost town but there were 10-11 guys in there.
That arena is just too much fun! I got so excited I broke the trigger on my AV8R and had to switch to my back-up ST290. I wish more people would play there more often.
HT please do not forget that arena. A little more development and I think it would be in constant use. Today was like rediscovering my excitement for the game.
Sopwith Camel Rules!
BTW they remodeled the DR-1 so it's no longer the only plane used. That day above in the arena I only saw one DR-1.
I'd like to at least see a Spad and a Neuport added. How can you forget the French in WWI?
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I'd like to at least see a Spad and a Neuport added. How can you forget the French in WWI?
Didn't you know? WW1 was the UK VS Germany :lol
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Give me blimps and zeplins only thing I can hit!!!!!!
999000 <S> Oh and give me shawk jumping out of a burning balloon!
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I think WWI planes should be enabled in the MAs. Just for fun. :devil
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I'd prefer they spend their time on the WWII arenas that we all came here for.
this
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What was WWI? Was airpower a factor? Or was it....
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/littlestar300/GIFS%20I%20have%20made%20Littlestar300/war8.gif)
VS.........
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae323/sheepsfoot/IMG.jpg)
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KO
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The super fokker may well be a super aircraft for us in our virtual world if you look back on Voss's last fight against 6 Se5. The Se5 in modern terms were the better performing aircraft. But, I've been in late night fights where a single Bf109E shot up 6 of us in ponies, spits and F4U killing 2 with 4 of us smoking before his engine stalled out and we killed him. The Dr1 versus D7 came to mind as my smoking Merlin made it clear ponis with 2 notches of flaps are no match for an Emil.
Regardless of that, a few more aircraft would appeal to human nature. When given a variety of divergent reasonably competitive choices we find suddenly more people feel some kinship to those differences. Especialy with the number of historic prejudices for famous WW1 rides. In all honesty the addition of more rides will attract more players initialy to check them out. But, over the long term may only double the current following of regulars in that arena.
I suspect a Koren War arena will have the same loyal but, small type of following. Given the nature of our players the Mig and F86 will dominate everything and be flown 99% of the time becasue very few people like to feed themselves to someone in an obviously outmatching ride to their own.
At least adding more rides to the WW1 arena would see the effort involved in their creation be appreciated due to being relatively matched. Very few players will be attracted to facing a Mig or F86 in a P80, P51, F7, F4u5, Hawker Sea Fury or F.8 Meteor. Even a Viet Nam arena would be dominated by the F4 and Mig21.
Variety and the real chance of success go hand in hand in any competitve environment like our game. Using that as a benchmark I can see a two plane mini jet arena for Korea and Viet Nam. But, WW1 has expansion possibilities based on the numbers of players attracted to the stick and rudder type of combat in the MA. Even another WW1 map or modify the current with three 5k feilds to give a more premeditated verticle element to the average fighting style currently employed. WW1 patrols were not flown in the bushes like we bush whack in the WW1 arena. The Dr1 is less dangerous if you have space under you to manuver. The bush whacking right now favors the Dr1. While waiting to get up to 5k is a snore and the bush whacking is closer and faster to get in the action.
The Dr1 is not an uber plane. We is just impatient to jerk our sticks in those put put rides and fly to it's strengths...... :joystick:
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I was in Rise Of Flight last night and the crwod for a Sat. night was pathetic. This, in such a capable and feature laden WWl flight game. Even their TS server had like 3 people on it. With the available servers, the ones with a decent ping, I had very few aircraft available because while I had purchased a fair amount of extra theres a whole lot I havnt bought. The quandry being why buy into a dieing flight genre / how to enjoy a flight genre without a decent amount of available server airframes?
Anyway my point being the flight genre is hurting and the WWl genre in particular is about dead. I dont see how AH could justify putting more into WWl when its goose eggs everytime I look at the arena. You have to wonder where in heck are all the flight sim enthusiasts of yesteryear?
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RoF singleplayer > online.
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I like this arena a lot and the ww1 planes offer about as much turn and burn as quickly as possible. it is the first place I look when I want to dogfight in a place where no ones first thought is to run away or join a horde. the general attitude of the small following is they want to dogfight and most prefer to 1v1 or 2v2. switching to balance the sides is also pretty standard in there.
but when the population hits 0 theres nothing to do while waiting for a fight to start and numbers to build.
it lacks the depth and the total war aspect of the MA with no ground war or bombing or capture mechanics.
the general view of the players is the arena was a proof of concept that has been abandoned when it wasn't able to attract a steady 24/7 crowd.
Is there any plans to develop this arena that can be shared?
it dosn't even have to be somthing you have planned. resources are alocated to give the most bang for the buck we all understand that and know the late War MA is the prime zone of the game.
but what would you like to see happen with the ww1 arena in the long run in the most general sense of what would increase its fun factor? new game mechanics? more planes? ground vehicles? blimps, balloons? capture mechanics or strat? etc.
Agreed. WWI is fun if you take the time to learn it. I almost gave up on it... but Fester, after saying he understood me quiting because most people quit WWI after a few tries, prompted me to keep at it. The more I fly the DR1, the better I got and it became much fun. :banana:
I visited it again the next day and nobody was there to fight. If we had more incentive for people to try it and stay with it, it's a great break from the normal LWA fighters. :aok
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I was in Rise Of Flight last night and the crwod for a Sat. night was pathetic. This, in such a capable and feature laden WWl flight game. Even their TS server had like 3 people on it. With the available servers, the ones with a decent ping, I had very few aircraft available because while I had purchased a fair amount of extra theres a whole lot I havnt bought. The quandry being why buy into a dieing flight genre / how to enjoy a flight genre without a decent amount of available server airframes?
Anyway my point being the flight genre is hurting and the WWl genre in particular is about dead. I dont see how AH could justify putting more into WWl when its goose eggs everytime I look at the arena. You have to wonder where in heck are all the flight sim enthusiasts of yesteryear?
RoF is not AH nor has the active and long time resource of AH's constantly playing player base. You cannot compaire the two business models in this way. As a consumer you only have a consumers perspective which results in trying to compair Electric Eels to Sealions as zoo attractions.
Most AH players in the face of the rinse and repeat pure offering of stick and rudder in the AH WW1 arena, are not wired to enjoy it.
It too quickly reveals your weakneses in piloting skill and ability to or not rapidly learn from your mistakes. You don't have the luxury to run away for a breather like WW2 rides give you. And the hot sticks in the WW1 arena are absolutly merceless about sticking your nose in the dirt for the slightest mistake becasue of the short distance meat grinder aspect of AH WW1 air combat on the deck.
(Fester, maybe a new WW1 map with 3 5k bases to get the fight out of the grass....you could probably update the current one for a start.)
Given a few more alternatives to entertain themselves in that arena, player numbers of the current following would probably expand some. It may never challege the MA numbers but, on occasion be its own equal to the AvA and DA lake if a few more toys and functions were available. Not a whole universe of WW1 like the MA is with WW2 toys. Just toys and functions offered in balance to the expected numbers to play with them. Too many toys for small numbers is as bad as poorly chosen toys to offered that fail to entertain them. (Try keeping 5 house only cats entertained day to day. Not much difference in fun motivation for cats or AH players. Ever try herding AH players........)
HTC is in a better position to make a balanced offering to a long established community versus RoF had to bet the farm out the door becasue WW1 is all it is for them. The advertised only WW1 and so their universe is all WW1. It's obvious how many customers have ever demanded a WW1 flight sim at any one time. Though in AW I do remember one evening spent in a 30 plane epic WW1 furball for 2 hours with my squad. AW had a nice offering of rides at that wayback time in PC gaming history along with a slightly more interesting map.
I could just be remembering castor oil fumes...... :old:
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This thing was hashed out, placed in a shallow grave and buried a few years back. Let it go fester.
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well ww1 arena is my first stop when i log in if I see anyone flying in it. I even log in to it and wait a bit to see if anyone else sees it populated and takes interest.
the one glaring problem with the arena is it has no downtime play mechanics that can keep you occupied while you wait for the arena to populate.
your only option is to wait for the fight to get the arena running.
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well ww1 arena is my first stop when i log in if I see anyone flying in it. I even log in to it and wait a bit to see if anyone else sees it populated and takes interest.
the one glaring problem with the arena is it has no downtime play mechanics that can keep you occupied while you wait for the arena to populate.
your only option is to wait for the fight to get the arena running.
PM me when you are there & lonely, I'll bail and fight, if I'm not about to log. WWI = fun. :banana:
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Had a good time flying there last night was nice to see 10+ in the room already! :rock
I vote for balloon busting as something to do when no ones there, make them heavily defended by ground fire and get them to start winching down as soon as your in visual range, also add points if you machine gun the observer in his parachute! :rock
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I will admit that I have not spent enough time in the WWI arena, but hopping in to a Camel and seeing but the WWI equivalent of the Spitfire 16 gets old real quick.
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I will admit that I have not spent enough time in the WWI arena, but hopping in to a Camel and seeing but the WWI equivalent of the Spitfire 16 gets old real quick.
I started flying the camel because it was the hardest to fly, but it can still compete with a Dr1 even in a flat turn it is only slightly better, turning to the left the camel is actually easier to control than the Dr1 in fact, any maneuver that is affected by gyro the Dr1 is at a slight disadvantage .
But yes the better sticks should ditch the Dr1 to let the newer guys fly the Dr1.
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And it would be nice to hear htcs views on this! Nudge nudge 2 years !!
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Dr1 is the king of BushWhacking, Lawn Care and Tree Topping.
Once you get in the grass with no real virtical component the Dr1 has you by attrition or by the Camel not having enough basement to recover when it stalls you into the grass. The D7 gets boring BnZing Dr1's and most eventualy wind up in the grass fighting to the Dr1's virtues. If you keep your D7 high long enough, someone always comes higher in a Dr1 to BnZ you. If you come along higher later in your D7 the Dr1 will run for the deck or try to succer you into a turn fight with too much E diving while he spiral turns away and up behind you.
The Dr1 is the defacto Super plane and the WW1 arena gets boring from it, and so many bad reviews becasue of it. Eventualy if you want a chance to succeed you fly a Dr1 and become a master gardener and arborist. This is why I suggested 5k feilds to start everyone with some basement manuvering room before the inevitable bush pruning gymnastics. The WW1 arena operates like the DA furball lake. At least update the WW1 arena with some higher airfeilds since no one is takeing pot shots with MG's, enfeilds, mausers, pistolas and chamber pots while the planes are manacuring the trees.
In WW1 no one flew patrols in the bushes. Biplanes were so slow everyone with a slingshot to a chamber pot could accidentaly hit you and patrols were first trying to kill scout and artillery spotter planes with cameras while second defending against any escorts. Patrols were not flown in the grass.
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Spad VII :pray
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Dr1 is the king of BushWhacking, Lawn Care and Tree Topping.
Once you get in the grass with no real virtical component the Dr1 has you by attrition or by the Camel not having enough basement to recover when it stalls you into the grass. The D7 gets boring BnZing Dr1's and most eventualy wind up in the grass fighting to the Dr1's virtues. If you keep your D7 high long enough, someone always comes higher in a Dr1 to BnZ you. If you come along higher later in your D7 the Dr1 will run for the deck or try to succer you into a turn fight with too much E diving while he spiral turns away and up behind you.
The Dr1 is the defacto Super plane and the WW1 arena gets boring from it, and so many bad reviews becasue of it. Eventualy if you want a chance to succeed you fly a Dr1 and become a master gardener and arborist. This is why I suggested 5k feilds to start everyone with some basement manuvering room before the inevitable bush pruning gymnastics. The WW1 arena operates like the DA furball lake. At least update the WW1 arena with some higher airfeilds since no one is takeing pot shots with MG's, enfeilds, mausers, pistolas and chamber pots while the planes are manacuring the trees.......
Bustr ENTIRE ww1 record (all tours since ww1 tour 1)
last sortie in ww1 arena? over a year and half ago bustr and your waxing on with your typical blatent uninformed BS about what ww1 arena needs when you don't even bother to play it.
ww1 tour 8 10/2010: 2 kills and 2 deaths in DR1. 27 minutes
ww1 tour 3 05/2010 7 kills 11 deaths in dr1 and f1 1 hour 34 minutes
ww1 tour 2 04/2010 60 kills 37 deaths in D7 and Dr1. 7 hours 48 minutes
ww1 tour 1 03/2010 251 kills 159 deaths in mosty Dr1 and some in d7 and f1. 35 hours 50 minutes
why did i bother too look? I started playing AH again in march of this year after a long break. and I have been enjoying the ww1 arena ever since I came back (ww1 tour25-ww1 tour29). and NOT ONCE have I seen you in there bustr. not once.
next time youve got a long winded pile of BS to unload go take a long restroom break and bring a magazine instead of your laptop.
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Bustr ENTIRE ww1 record (all tours since ww1 tour 1)
last sortie in ww1 arena? over a year and half ago bustr and your waxing on with your typical blatent uninformed BS about what ww1 arena needs when you don't even bother to play it.
ww1 tour 8 10/2010: 2 kills and 2 deaths in DR1. 27 minutes
ww1 tour 3 05/2010 7 kills 11 deaths in dr1 and f1 1 hour 34 minutes
ww1 tour 2 04/2010 60 kills 37 deaths in D7 and Dr1. 7 hours 48 minutes
ww1 tour 1 03/2010 251 kills 159 deaths in mosty Dr1 and some in d7 and f1. 35 hours 50 minutes
why did i bother too look? I started playing AH again in march of this year after a long break. and I have been enjoying the ww1 arena ever since I came back (ww1 tour25-ww1 tour29). and NOT ONCE have I seen you in there bustr. not once.
next time youve got a long winded pile of BS to unload go take a long restroom break and bring a magazine instead of your laptop.
:rofl
I sense something about tweekers and coins coming next. :)
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Zing!
And he went on and on about the Dr-1 despite the fact I had already told him it had been remodeled. :rolleyes:
Of course, as you point out he wouldn't know that.
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Zing!
And he went on and on about the Dr-1 despite the fact I had already told him it had been remodeled. :rolleyes:
Of course, as you point out he wouldn't know that.
Yet the impact of that remodel was a very minor one, the arena is still dominated by the DR.I.
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well if HTC is unwilling to invest any time in the ww1 arena or add more turn n burn planes or faster bnz planes at least perk the dr1 and group the perk bank from ww1 arena with the othe main arenas.
I would prefer to farm perks in ww1.
it has worked for the midwar arena which constantly has perk farmers.
do they want the ww1 arena to fail? or do they already consider it a failure and have disowned it?
thats a shame considering some subscribers base their subscription choice off the ww1 arena.
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Yet the impact of that remodel was a very minor one, the arena is still dominated by the DR.I.
As someone who flew F1 vs DR1 exclusively I would have to disagree with this, the effect was very noticable for me, before even against quite average sticks I could not afford to make a single mistake, now its only hard against the best dr1 sticks, the other guys are easy after the update.
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well if HTC is unwilling to invest any time in the ww1 arena or add more turn n burn planes or faster bnz planes at least perk the dr1 and group the perk bank from ww1 arena with the othe main arenas.
I would prefer to farm perks in ww1.
it has worked for the midwar arena which constantly has perk farmers.
do they want the ww1 arena to fail? or do they already consider it a failure and have disowned it?
thats a shame considering some subscribers base their subscription choice off the ww1 arena.
There were a good few deticated ww1 guys that have came and gone to RoF, I was 'tapped up' in there for my email to be added to a RoF mailing list, but who can blame them if HTC refuses to develop the arena, over 2 years now since it was brought in.
Doubtless hitech missed this thread with his busy schedule! but don't worry I pmed him the link :D so we should expect an answer any time soon :x :x
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Much as I want a WW1 arena to resemble something like Red Baron II, I rather not take any focus off WW2 aspect of the game.
Its been said before there simply isnt enough manpower to go around.
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As someone who flew F1 vs DR1 exclusively I would have to disagree with this, the effect was very noticable for me, before even against quite average sticks I could not afford to make a single mistake, now its only hard against the best dr1 sticks, the other guys are easy after the update.
I didn't say it's dominating you, I wasn't making any remark on an individual level. I'm talking about the impact on the arena, the total usage and efficiency. And without a doubt, the Dr.I still dominates it:
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1285/ww1arena.jpg)
And bustr IS right in his core critizism: The arena setup as is - single or at most a handfull of planes meeting each other in a duel-like situation over no-mans land at lowest altitudes with no different tactical purposes - does still favor the Dr.I to a high degree. That'S why the numbers above are as they are.
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I still think its revelant, if it becomes a hell of a lot easier for me it should do across the board.
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I still think its revelant, if it becomes a hell of a lot easier for me it should do across the board.
"should" ... but things are what they are, not what you or me think they "should" be ;)
The Dr.I is still largely wiping the floor with its opposition. The numbers above show what really is happening. Exceptions are just that.
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"should" ... but things are what they are, not what you or me think they "should" be ;)
The Dr.I is still largely wiping the floor with its opposition. The numbers above show what really is happening. Exceptions are just that.
I'm not buying that explantion unless you can show should and exceptions in a pie chart!
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Just as an additional snippet of information, the total K/D of the DrI vs the other fighters for January to June 2012:
DR.I vs
D.VII - 2.06
F.2B - 2.05
F.1 - 1.9
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Maybe if HT's abandoned the WWI arena it's time to allow player modeled planes for submission for that arena only.
I wouldn't know how to do it but I'm sure there are others that would.
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Fester,
I played back when it first came out along with everyone. From time to time since then I played for a few sortie to see if it had changed. My squad has even gone in from time to time. It hasn't changed much from talking to them and other players who drop in. I beleive it has untapped potential. But, not the way it is now. The ongoing posts complaining about the super bush whacking Dr1 describe nothing I have not personaly experienced or has been reported since the opening of that arena.
Is it different now? Does everyone saddle up and meet above 5k and epicly fight down to the bushes in solidarity to help remove the bush whacking stigma? Or as usual devolves into who can whack bushes better in a Dr1 nearly from the onset?
At this time it apperes only a very small subset of players in Aces High want to invest their $14.95 into that arena to seek a very specific and unique type of fun.
Currently the Dr1 stigma sits on that arena fair or foul. Has it changed in any significant way to change the overall perceptions of the average player base who have a lower tollerance for overcomeing something like the Dr1 and the current description of the arena? Fester you are not the average player seeking average fun for $14.95 a month. The larger pool of players in any game are not like you nor your skill level. So who are you selling this arena to? Who is the demographic in Aces High you are targeting as the sales rep for the WW1 arena?
Are you selling Ferraris or Chevys to get dancers back on the floor?
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bustr at the moment I'm more interested in convincing you to make your posts concise and to the point than in the merits of the Dr1.
the real mystery is what does HTC think or plan to do about the ww1 arena. here is some possibilities...
1. It's a dead arena we will not waste resorces on it.
2. We don't like Fester because he is a loudmouth know it all and everything he says is like nails on a chalk board to us. We would rather imerse him in burning oil than give him the satisfaction of knowing what we are going to do with the ww1 arena.
3. Waffle built the ww1 planes one weekend when he broke free of the chains keeping him at his desk and he refuses to make anymore until he gets more comfortable chains.
4. We have plans for developing the ww1 arena and are waiting to see if it can draw a steady crowd in its current state before commiting more resources to it.
5. Two weeks.
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bustr at the moment I'm more interested in convincing you to make your posts concise and to the point than in the merits of the Dr1.
the real mystery is what does HTC think or plan to do about the ww1 arena. here is some possibilities...
1. It's a dead arena we will not waste resorces on it.
2. We don't like Fester because he is a loudmouth know it all and everything he says is like nails on a chalk board to us. We would rather imerse him in burning oil than give him the satisfaction of knowing what we are going to do with the ww1 arena.
3. Waffle built the ww1 planes one weekend when he broke free of the chains keeping him at his desk and he refuses to make anymore until he gets more comfortable chains.
4. We have plans for developing the ww1 arena and are waiting to see if it can draw a steady crowd in its current state before commiting more resources to it.
5. Two weeks.
:huh
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the general view of the players is the arena was a proof of concept that has been abandoned when it wasn't able to attract a steady 24/7 crowd.
If you haven't noticed the MA barely maintains a 24/7 crowd these days. Your lucky to see 1 or 2 small bars of activity over entire map during off peak hours.
Been enough resources and time wasted on WW1 theatre as it is. Rather see the AH1 planeset completed to AH2 (only been 9 years) and a drop in price to $9.95 as $15 is just too expensive for a online game these days especially one with such dated graphics. At $9.95 might attract new players or those that can look past the visuals and who knows that might get some numbers into WW1 as well.
<S>...-Gixer
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with inflation AH gets cheaper every year at the same price.
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If you haven't noticed the MA barely maintains a 24/7 crowd these days. Your lucky to see 1 or 2 small bars of activity over entire map during off peak hours.
Been enough resources and time wasted on WW1 theatre as it is. Rather see the AH1 planeset completed to AH2 (only been 9 years) and a drop in price to $9.95 as $15 is just too expensive for a online game these days especially one with such dated graphics. At $9.95 might attract new players or those that can look past the visuals and who knows that might get some numbers into WW1 as well.
<S>...-Gixer
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a drop in price to $9.95 as $15 is just too expensive for a online game these days
Is this a joke?
Really?
- oldman (yo gixer)
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If you haven't noticed the MA barely maintains a 24/7 crowd these days. Your lucky to see 1 or 2 small bars of activity over entire map during off peak hours.
<S>...-Gixer
Because the localized furball is growing smaller and smaller in favor of larger missions/horde's to capture bases, you know the only goal in aces high which is win the war and avoid all combat.
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Fester,
You are like a Windows Super User in the case of AH being Windows as an alagoric compliment. Hitech should name something after you for all of the selfless effort you have invested in Aces High like those airfeilds in Air Warrior.
With that being said. It comes down to getting an answer from Hitech to what his intentions for the future of the arena is. Other wise your expression of being insulted verifies the arena has not changed. And the eskimos aint buying snowballs today even from the master of selling snow to snowmen.
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I will go into WWI and own anyone :)
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(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Computer/compute-9.gif) More pointless charts...
'evolution' of fighter usage in the WW1 arena so far:
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1285/ww1arena.jpg)
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I'd pay 20$/Month for more game development
15$ is a bargain in euros
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thats why u pick?
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I'd pay 20$/Month for more game development
15$ is a bargain in euros
I would too, but the problem likely is that enough people would not pay the $20 to where HTC may end up with nearly the same revenue, but 25% less players.
The only answer I can think of then is for HITech to encourage players to volunteer to pay more in return for some trivial benefit. However, that might increase suspicion that the higher paying players are given an advantage.
I want more from HTC too, given how much of my free time I spend here, but don't know how to convince HiTech to do that, yet. :headscratch:
:O
:old: Place ads on 200 every 30 seconds as "Tweets" and allow players to pay $5/mnth for permasquelch.
:frown: nvm... :bolt:
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Well I don't care a hoot about the WWI arena. To me the planes all fly about the same and the DR.I is way to fast but I didn't like Rise of flight any better and their planes do have speed and clime differences that count in a fight. I am happy some of you enjoy WWI but I still would rather the time and effort be spent on the MA. As for the monthly fee I think $14.95 is a bargain where else you going to have this much fun without leaving your house? If the fees went up some I would still pay it within reason and I am surprised they stayed $14.95 as long as they have while everything else around us go up in cost.
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I've had really really bad luck in WWI so far this month so I went to look at my stats figuring I must be at or near the bottom. Here's my worst stat:
Kills per Hour of Flight 0.90 164
I'm ranked 164th in K/T (1 kill on 7 sorties). That means at least 164 people have been in the WWI arena through 14 days but there must be people tied in stats and others who fared worse (as hard as that may be to believe). That's an average of 11 players per day. It only takes about four people to make that arena fun to play in.
Most times I log on lately there's at least a few people in there. I'm actually encouraged to see that the arena seems to be developing a small following. Win or lose I have a blast when I'm in there. The fights seem much more intense than any in the MA and it's especially great when you don't have much time and log on to get quick fix.
Oh, and BTW, I've been one of those Camel drivers from the beginning.
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I'm ranked 164th in K/T (1 kill on 7 sorties). That means at least 164 people have been in the WWI arena through 14 days but there must be people tied in stats and others who fared worse (as hard as that may be to believe). That's an average of 11 players per day. It only takes about four people to make that arena fun to play in.
Let's put it this way:
WW1 is seeing more activity than EW or AvA :D
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the fights are good and fast in ww1. lots of furballing.
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bustr at the moment I'm more interested in convincing you to make your posts concise and to the point than in the merits of the Dr1.
the real mystery is what does HTC think or plan to do about the ww1 arena. here is some possibilities...
1. It's a dead arena we will not waste resorces on it.
2. We don't like Fester because he is a loudmouth know it all and everything he says is like nails on a chalk board to us. We would rather imerse him in burning oil than give him the satisfaction of knowing what we are going to do with the ww1 arena.
3. Waffle built the ww1 planes one weekend when he broke free of the chains keeping him at his desk and he refuses to make anymore until he gets more comfortable chains.
4. We have plans for developing the ww1 arena and are waiting to see if it can draw a steady crowd in its current state before commiting more resources to it.
5. Two weeks.
Well...I can vouch that whatever Fester posts about, it's unfailingly pointed, informed, and devoid of the usual teenaged emotion that comprises most posts in here
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World War 1... dead.
Early War... dead.
Why not at least give Korea a try? Develop the most advanced pure gun dogfigher arena. NOBODY else is doing it. There has to be a market not being fulfilled.
When EA bought AW the big rumor (driven by a press release from EA) was a more advanced Korea and early Vietnam Era (last of the gunfighters) arena was in the works. Unfortunately, we all know what happened shortly after the acquisition and it wasn't an advanced arena.
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World War 1... dead.
Early War... dead.
Why not at least give Korea a try? Develop the most advanced pure gun dogfigher arena. NOBODY else is doing it. There has to be a market not being fulfilled.
When EA bought AW the big rumor (driven by a press release from EA) was a more advanced Korea and early Vietnam Era (last of the gunfighters) arena was in the works. Unfortunately, we all know what happened shortly after the acquisition and it wasn't an advanced arena.
AND, there's a bonus--when a plane warps across the sky, you'll assume it's normal
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At what point we do rate an arena as being 'dead'?
(No, this is not a loaded question, I'm really wondering about it)
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Why not at least give Korea a try? Develop the most advanced pure gun dogfigher arena. NOBODY else is doing it. There has to be a market not being fulfilled.
As selfish as it is to ask more of HTC on top of all their doing i think this would be a great idea. I feel that not only would it draw a crowd from people outside the AH community who want to fly sabres and migs around, but those of us inside that want some jet v jet combat, and don't wanna worry about losing >150 perks to try and find another 262 to duke it out with in an arena where one false move means a pony or dora can swoop in a pick a furballling jet.
Add to that fights would naturally be at higher alt (greater climb in a Korean war bird), and the greater speed, I think that this arena would find a good following because of the vast difference in comparison with the MA.
Maybe even make it something like an expansion, where for a one time fee (something reasonable), players can have access to the arena. That or perhaps they charge a $2 fee monthly to fly in the arena anytime, and only in off peak hours is it free to enter.
just my 2 cents, like I said id love to whip around in a f86 guarding b29s while migs shoot tennisballs at us all.
*dons flamesuit*
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At what point we do rate an arena as being 'dead'?
(No, this is not a loaded question, I'm really wondering about it)
This is what the numbers are right now:
Early War - 2
Mid War - 9
Late War - 418
WW1 - 3
14 total players in 3 arenas combined during Primetime. I'd say that qualifies as 'dead'.
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This is what the numbers are right now:
Early War - 2
Mid War - 9
Late War - 418
WW1 - 3
14 total players in 3 arenas combined during Primetime. I'd say that qualifies as 'dead'.
(http://tomsworkbench.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Dead-Its-dead-Jim.jpg)
But we also have 250-350 players in WW1 each tour with ~3000 kills. And if we call WW1 dead, AvA should be called 'decayed' by now :devil
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What he meant was me doesnt play there so its dead.
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Don't even think of calling it dead. It's great fun, and has a different feel to it, a barnstorming kind of feel.
Adding something to it every now and then would be nice.
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What he meant was me doesnt play there so its dead.
What I meant was there's no players there when I look, even during primetime. I think changing one of them would have to be an improvement in numbers.
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How about one night a week WWI is the only arena.......
999000 <S>
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I like WWI but i dont play there to much just because of it lags the capture mechanics, gvs, bombers , CV groups etc...
I believe if HTC enables those in WWI arena , the population there will quickly increase. Probably there even will be people (WWI funs) registering game only for that arena.
That being said , if HTC is not going to improve that arena they can at least turn it to Korean War arena...
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Were any of you guys in the WWI arena on July 23 or so when there were 50+ people in there? Was that an organized event or just something spontaneous while the Late MA was reloading? I've heard different versions.
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Were any of you guys in the WWI arena on July 23 or so when there were 50+ people in there? Was that an organized event or just something spontaneous while the Late MA was reloading?
The latter one. LW arena kept crashing, so many players diverted their attention to MW and WW1