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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: Pand on July 14, 2012, 02:22:13 PM
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Thanks to the 327th and 364th getting us to target! :salute The Betty sneak attack below 5K worked! I'm sure the allies not having corsairs chewing us up helped too :)
http://www.horizonx.org/smf/index.php?topic=268.0
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Thanks for the screens pand. Was fun chasing you guys down there. :salute
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A few from the Mongrel's Low Earth Orbit KI-67 raid..
(http://www.ka4zzq.com/Mongrels/FSO/FSO_7_13_12_02.jpg)
(http://www.ka4zzq.com/Mongrels/FSO/FSO_7_13_12_01.jpg)
(http://www.ka4zzq.com/Mongrels/FSO/FSO_7_13_12_0.jpg)
(http://www.ka4zzq.com/Mongrels/FSO/FSO_7_13_12.jpg)
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Beautiful.... I almost posted asking for Frame1 screen shots. For the record, I hope you claim no ownership as I add those to my slideshow!
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J.G. plissken is Right!
"Beautiful".
I understand several ufo sightings ocurred????
Nice Screens <S> APDrone...
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Drone what was your altitude in your "near earth orbit" comment? Excellent screenies!!! Great looking tight formation of bombers as well.
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Drone what was your altitude in your "near earth orbit" comment? Excellent screenies!!! Great looking tight formation of bombers as well.
28k +/- Baumer did an excellent job keeping all us cats herded together. Thanks! :salute
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TopGun had the task of intercepting Ki67s at 28-29k, kind of interesting since the Spit5 barely managed to keep up with it at that alt.
Reminds me of escorting b-29s in a Hellcat, i'm glad these "odd" run ins are once a year.
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Yeah it was impossible to catch the 67s in our P-40Es.
Didn't look like A34 was even touched. I read that only 20 objects were destroyed by both sides. :o
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TopGun had the task of intercepting Ki67s at 28-29k, kind of interesting since the Spit5 barely managed to keep up with it at that alt.
The RAAF faced this same difficulty on a regular basis over Darwin in 43. By the time the Spit V had got into position at about 32k for an attack they were suffering from mechanical failure, fuel problems, gun freeze and just the plane's inability to keep up. Fuel starvation was knocking down as many Spits as the escorting Zeros.
Lots of well sorted information in this particular book. It updates many previous accounts.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=iSlDdJrpYu8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=darwin+spitfires&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WZUDULr_GKr3mAX8kMTrCQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=darwin%20spitfires&f=false (http://books.google.com.au/books?id=iSlDdJrpYu8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=darwin+spitfires&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WZUDULr_GKr3mAX8kMTrCQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=darwin%20spitfires&f=false)
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The RAAF faced this same difficulty on a regular basis over Darwin in 43. By the time the Spit V had got into position at about 32k for an attack they were suffering from mechanical failure, fuel problems, gun freeze and just the plane's inability to keep up. Fuel starvation was knocking down as many Spits as the escorting Zeros.
Lots of well sorted information in this particular book. It updates many previous accounts.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=iSlDdJrpYu8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=darwin+spitfires&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WZUDULr_GKr3mAX8kMTrCQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=darwin%20spitfires&f=false (http://books.google.com.au/books?id=iSlDdJrpYu8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=darwin+spitfires&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WZUDULr_GKr3mAX8kMTrCQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=darwin%20spitfires&f=false)
And people want the Boomerang? ha - all kidding aside, I know the Spit V appeared around '43 for Australia and the British in Burma, but did what alt were betties and Ki-49s regularly flying at?
I do recall the harsh environment of the south pacific - one thing most people want "more realism" in the wishlist simply haven't heard of "malaria" which tore up everyone in the south pacific.
Imagine if we had mechanical failures enabled - and then "malaria" - this means a good sizable portion of a squad instantly gets grounded - instead of 16 taking off you'd be looking at quite a few less then that.
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You mean like Real Human and Envioronmental stuff? A debate point (never done before) could contain a topic like,
"How much realism is playable." Something to contemplate. :salute
Pand/Drone Again, Beautiful Screenes...
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Yeah it was impossible to catch the 67s in our P-40Es.
Didn't look like A34 was even touched. I read that only 20 objects were destroyed by both sides. :o
When a small squad is tasked with bombing a target UNESCORTED in Japanese bombers you do what you can, to carry out the orders. While the intercept was difficult at best, the Spit V's managed to attack during the critical time of manual calibration. With such a difficult bomb run I'm surprised we managed to hit anything!
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When a small squad is tasked with bombing a target UNESCORTED in Japanese bombers you do what you can, to carry out the orders. While the intercept was difficult at best, the Spit V's managed to attack during the critical time of manual calibration. With such a difficult bomb run I'm surprised we managed to hit anything!
Oh I know, I've been there Baumer. I wasn't questioning the tactics or strategy. You played it very well, I may have very well done the same thing had I been in Ki67s.
I lost my engine oil and was forced to RTB. Landed successfully.
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but did what alt were betties and Ki-49s regularly flying at?
In respect of the raids on Darwin and northern Australia, the altitude was often above 25k and without putting a table together on it to know for sure, regularly 28k or greater. I included the link to that book as a lot of it is readable on Google books and it has just that type of information in quantity. It makes fascinating reading well beyond just the subject of raid alts. The raids over Darwin in 43 were generally high.
Burma was another theatre with different metrics. A lot of the raids there were in support of ground troops for instance. Low level attacks on forward airfields were a priority too. Raids on Rangoon by the Allies were mainly made at night. Japanese raids on Indian cities like Calcutta weren't forced to come in at great height. The defence was mainly Hurricanes and Mohawks and a couple of Republic Lancers thrown in for the high altitude work. The first Spitfire victory in the theatre was on the 8th November 1943 when a Ki46 was shot down at 25,000 feet over Chittagong.
Just getting right off subject, the Mohawks in this campaign apparently proved to be first rate front line fighters against the Ki43s. A number of pilots even claiming superior turn-fighting ability after engagements. There's mentions of this in Christopher Shore's "Air War for Burma", the third volume of the "Bloody Shambles" set.
While I'm at it, the Boomerang mention also raises interest. The CA12/13 Models were rushed to the front without a turbocharger as it was difficult and time consuming to integrate it during the emergency. The CA14 was the supercharged variant and it was never put into serial production. Delay killed it. The engines for it were supposed to come directly from the US, were ordered and just never arrived. An attempt to put the available locally produced R-2800 into that small airframe caused a number of problems including undercarriage failure. The CA14 was finally given an engine/turbo combo that gave it performance roughly equal of the Spit 5 - but 6 months too late.
By the time a solution was worked out in about July 1943 Spitfires were already blooded in action at the front. Crates of P40Es and Ns were piling up on the wharves just requiring assembly. CAC therefore abandoned the CA14 and worked on 2 new projects the CA15 "Kangaroo" and the not dissimilar CA17. You'd recognise the latter by it's more common handle - "P51 Mustang".
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Screen shot from Frame3. If your a fan of the Ki-61, enjoy. :)
(http://www.332nd.org/dogs/daddog/2012ScreenShots/2012Ki61.jpg)
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Dad! You old dog you! Why weren't you on Chnl 202 helping with the setup?
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Doggies?? Rat Chasin Doggies??
lol
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Dad! You old dog you! Why weren't you on Chnl 202 helping with the setup?
lol Because when I would help with setup planes would up without ammo, fuel for players would last about 10 minutes, base ack would be 10X the MA, enemy icons would be off, or we would have an arena reset. :eek: I have learned not to touch the shiny buttons anymore. :)