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Title: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 17, 2012, 01:35:18 PM
Today, 2:30 MT news conference.    :noid
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 17, 2012, 02:13:02 PM
He's a good guy trying to protect his state.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 17, 2012, 02:29:51 PM
did I forget to say  "attaboy"?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: SEraider on July 17, 2012, 02:39:56 PM
Today, 2:30 MT news conference.    :noid

Yes he is; enforcing the law.   :salute
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Nathan60 on July 17, 2012, 03:18:19 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: 1Boner on July 17, 2012, 03:23:30 PM
Just guessing that this post could get messy............ :bolt:
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: rogwar on July 17, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
He's a good guy trying to protect his state.

 :aok
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 17, 2012, 04:25:49 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 17, 2012, 04:28:05 PM
please refrain from posting this type of comment.



You mean turn a blind eye till it affects you in some way?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Karnak on July 17, 2012, 04:39:56 PM
You mean turn a blind eye till it affects you in some way?
I think he means "Rule 14", which this thread is basically a violation of.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: SEraider on July 17, 2012, 04:40:55 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Karnak on July 17, 2012, 05:11:04 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 17, 2012, 05:22:50 PM
jeeze...im on arpaios side :bhead

I dont want this thread to get locked.

Thats all.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Nathan60 on July 17, 2012, 05:32:23 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 17, 2012, 05:43:18 PM
I was thinking "show support for the sheriff not political talk"

Again I don't want the thread to get locked.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Karnak on July 17, 2012, 06:03:58 PM
Why would I want to support somebody I vehemently oppose?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 17, 2012, 06:17:38 PM
I don't recall anyone asking you to.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: FYB on July 17, 2012, 06:23:24 PM
Why would I want to support somebody I vehemently oppose?
Then don't and leave the thread. No one asked you to come in, in case you forgot.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ozrocker on July 17, 2012, 07:00:07 PM
Go Joe :aok Wish more had guts like him :salute


                                                                                                                                                      :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: guncrasher on July 17, 2012, 09:10:21 PM
so I go drive down the street with my friend, guess who gets to shake joe's hand?



semp
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 18, 2012, 08:50:38 AM
so I go drive down the street with my friend, guess who gets to shake joe's hand?



semp

I want proof....photos plz.... :devil
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: CAP1 on July 18, 2012, 11:45:18 AM
Why would I want to support somebody I vehemently oppose?

 why would you oppose someone that enforces the law?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 18, 2012, 11:56:58 AM
I get the whole fact finding thing.  I understand the evidence.  What can an Arizona Sheriff do about it?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 18, 2012, 02:11:03 PM
I get the whole fact finding thing.  I understand the evidence.  What can an Arizona Sheriff do about it?

Just make it public and hope the lazy folks higher up, who's job it is to confirm these things, can get off their duff and personal work long enough to actually do their job.


Most folks have to prove their eligibility before being considered for most anything... not after.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: guncrasher on July 18, 2012, 04:30:07 PM
I want proof....photos plz.... :devil

if i post a picture you can tell that I wont be the one shaking his hand.  i would be talking to his people while my friend would be talking to the sheriff.


semp
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Babalonian on July 18, 2012, 04:50:24 PM
This thread is nothing but troll bait and it (and the OP) deserve about as much respect and the right to let flourish as a full blown political discussion in this forum (or a picture with half-a-dozen US politicians posted in this forum because all the women are photoshopped out).

The title Joa Arpaio at it again.  Roy, really!?

HamHawk bought his own farm here and he'll reap what he sowed, but the OP?...
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: guncrasher on July 18, 2012, 04:53:42 PM
yup this was posted only to announce the "new" info regarding the president.  one political thread if I ever saw one.


semp
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: bj229r on July 18, 2012, 04:59:06 PM
See Rule #14
hehe
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 18, 2012, 04:59:40 PM
This is a discussion about the law.  Nothing else.  Wanna get in trouble? Go right ahead. Do it in your own thread.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: bj229r on July 18, 2012, 05:03:47 PM
I can vouch that you cannot visit  your baby-daddy//momma in jail sans state I.D.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Babalonian on July 18, 2012, 05:05:37 PM
See Rules #4, #5
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Babalonian on July 18, 2012, 05:07:42 PM
snip
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 18, 2012, 05:09:08 PM
See Rules #4, #5
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: guncrasher on July 18, 2012, 05:18:01 PM
This is a discussion about the law.  Nothing else.  Wanna get in trouble? Go right ahead. Do it in your own thread.

then why specifically mention the 2:30 news conference?  what was that conference about?  if there was nothing political about it, I am pretty sure by now you would have posted what it was about.  you are hiding the fact that that conference was political, from skuzzy, and are claiming the "it wasnt about politics but about supporting your sherrif".

semp

Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Butcher on July 18, 2012, 05:18:50 PM
See Rules #4, #5
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: bj229r on July 18, 2012, 05:20:37 PM
See Rules #4, #5
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 18, 2012, 05:26:16 PM
does this thread have some evil hidden code in it which keeps drawing you back?

OMG...Illuminati

1 - 2:30 news conference notice was because it was news. 

2 - The conference was about an official investigation regarding the law and a legal document.

3 - you can not ever hide anything from Skuzzy!
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: guncrasher on July 18, 2012, 05:29:13 PM
it's been reported including what the news conference was about hours ago.  now it's up to skuzzy's discretion.  but what irritates me is the op claiming that this wasnt an attempt to post a political thread.

semp
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Butcher on July 18, 2012, 05:33:56 PM
See Rule #5
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Melvin on July 18, 2012, 05:34:20 PM
Wow, one of their boys steps on his own tongue and the little piggies are whipped into a reporting rage.

Pretty damn hilarious if you ask me.

 :rofl


Anyway, I support the Sheriff... to a point. In my opinion he should stick to patrolling his own neighborhood and leave national snoopery to those that are less polarizing.

 :salute
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Butcher on July 18, 2012, 05:37:18 PM
Wow, one of their boys steps on his own tongue and the little piggies are whipped into a reporting rage.

Pretty damn hilarious if you ask me.

 :rofl


Anyway, I support the Sheriff... to a point. In my opinion he should stick to patrolling his own neighborhood and leave national snoopery to those that are less polarizing.

 :salute

After seeing him in person and watching how he runs his sheriff office (thanks MSNBC) which was a one hour documentary including staff and inmates - everyone agrees the man does he job to fullest extent.
I have a sheriff like that in my town and quite happy if you report something, things get done.

Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Mr No Name on July 18, 2012, 06:00:37 PM
Go Joe!  Hang tough!
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: cattb on July 18, 2012, 06:02:55 PM
Just make it public and hope the lazy folks higher up, who's job it is to confirm these things, can get off their duff and personal work long enough to actually do their job.


Most folks have to prove their eligibility before being considered for most anything... not after.


http://now.msn.com/florida-tells-decorated-wwii-vet-to-prove-hes-a-us-citizen (http://now.msn.com/florida-tells-decorated-wwii-vet-to-prove-hes-a-us-citizen)
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: guncrasher on July 18, 2012, 06:04:03 PM
After seeing him in person and watching how he runs his sheriff office (thanks MSNBC) which was a one hour documentary including staff and inmates - everyone agrees the man does he job to fullest extent.
I have a sheriff like that in my town and quite happy if you report something, things get done.



unless of course it's people like me who are expected to prove who we are at all times.


semp
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: cattb on July 18, 2012, 06:06:37 PM

ToeTag,
What was the legal document part. I missed it?................. :D
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Butcher on July 18, 2012, 06:11:39 PM
unless of course it's people like me who are expected to prove who we are at all times.
semp

I'm hungarian, I.e arab looking - wanta see what I go through everytime I fly?

Nope don't wear the towels or anything else, I still deal with the system like anyone else - I just wish I had Borats outfit to make it more interesting.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Skilless on July 18, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
This thread delivers.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Fury on July 18, 2012, 06:17:26 PM
See Rules #4, #6
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 18, 2012, 06:21:44 PM
ToeTag,
What was the legal document part. I missed it?................. :D

The birth certificate...legal document...fraud....?  What next?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: SmokinLoon on July 18, 2012, 06:35:05 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: phatzo on July 18, 2012, 06:43:40 PM
I'm hungarian, I.e arab looking - wanta see what I go through everytime I fly?

Nope don't wear the towels or anything else, I still deal with the system like anyone else - I just wish I had Borats outfit to make it more interesting.

You can get mankinis on ebay for $1.99
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: FrodeMk3 on July 18, 2012, 06:43:54 PM
I'm gonna kick out an 'IN' before the thread gets kicked out.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Butcher on July 18, 2012, 07:00:01 PM
As in the yellow swim suit???  That is something that can not be unseen. Do not go there.


Oh yes the Boratkini.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 18, 2012, 07:10:56 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Skilless on July 18, 2012, 07:24:57 PM
See Rule #5
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Fury on July 18, 2012, 07:29:49 PM
Well gosh darn, that answers that.  Although I can't see why he wants to get spam reports of things that don't need moderating, but to each his own.

Toodle pip!
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: wrag on July 18, 2012, 07:46:17 PM
Go Joe!  :rock

Supporting law and the rule of law.  :aok

And didn't any of you ever see "Support Your local Sheriff" ?  :)
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Bodhi on July 18, 2012, 08:05:30 PM
WTG Joe!

Oh, and awesome levels of butthurt in here! 

Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Maverick on July 18, 2012, 08:34:08 PM
I like Joe, quite a bit. He makes a far better sheriff than the idiot that Pima County is stuck with.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Bronk on July 18, 2012, 08:37:33 PM
LMAO
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 18, 2012, 08:49:21 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Skilless on July 18, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
How/why could/would they prosecute him for doing his job which is upholding and enforcing the law?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: redwing7 on July 18, 2012, 09:20:36 PM
WTG Joe!

Oh, and awesome levels of butthurt in here! 




 :aok
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: CAP1 on July 18, 2012, 09:32:15 PM
How/why could/would they prosecute him for doing his job which is upholding and enforcing the law?
because upholding the law is unethical, and unfair to criminals?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ToeTag on July 18, 2012, 10:15:37 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 18, 2012, 11:36:07 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: FYB on July 19, 2012, 03:05:03 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Chalenge on July 19, 2012, 03:15:49 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 19, 2012, 06:28:54 AM
Why are the supposed non-existent in the system, treated as if they exist? When you open your eyes, come back; what he does is for the best. My solution would have been elimination, no questions asked, be thankful he is nice.

My eyes are open, he's obviously playing off people's fears and prejudices to draw attention away from his own alleged crimes. 

It's not hard to see that it works perfectly on some people.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Donzo on July 19, 2012, 07:56:56 AM
My eyes are open, he's obviously playing off people's fears and prejudices to draw attention away from his own alleged crimes. 

It's not hard to see that it works perfectly on some people.

Since everything he's doing is going almost totally unnoticed by the media, who's attention is he drawing away from his own alleged crimes?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: VonMessa on July 19, 2012, 08:41:13 AM
From the article:

"Manuel Nieto and Velia Meraz, both of whom are U.S. citizens, will recount how they were pulled over and handcuffed at gunpoint in the middle of the day for no apparent reason other than that Meraz was singing along to Spanish-language music when they passed a deputy."

Really?  Is this what the officer that detained him put in his official report as probable cause?

I sincerely doubt it, especially if he wanted any possible prosecution to hold water in any court...


Another quote from same article:

"Some of the plaintiffs will likely describe how Arpaio's so-called crime sweeps in neighborhoods targeted Latinos for interrogation about their immigration status based on nothing more than their appearance."

Well, since Arizona does not share any borders with any Asian or African countries, this seems more logical than confronting Asians or Africans.   :headscratch:

Yet another:

"For example, a Latino motorist was stopped for failing to use a turn signal and jailed for 13 days for failing to provide proper identification, even though he provided multiple documents sufficient to satisfy Arizona law"

I always have my ID on me, even when naked.  It prevents mistaken identity problems.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: rabbidrabbit on July 19, 2012, 09:12:26 AM


I always have my ID on me, even when naked.  It prevents mistaken identity problems.

On a string or the brown swiper?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shamus on July 19, 2012, 09:14:41 AM
We need a law like that up here in Michigan so we can pull over all the illegal Indian, Asian and Canadian looking types driving around.

shamus
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: VonMessa on July 19, 2012, 09:15:59 AM
On a string or the brown swiper?

Depends on whether or not I am in the shower...
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 19, 2012, 09:20:39 AM
See Rules #4, #5
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 19, 2012, 09:22:39 AM
then why specifically mention the 2:30 news conference?  what was that conference about?  if there was nothing political about it, I am pretty sure by now you would have posted what it was about.  you are hiding the fact that that conference was political, from skuzzy, and are claiming the "it wasnt about politics but about supporting your sherrif".

semp



Folks all across the country support an American willing to stand up to tyranny.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 19, 2012, 09:25:08 AM
http://now.msn.com/florida-tells-decorated-wwii-vet-to-prove-hes-a-us-citizen (http://now.msn.com/florida-tells-decorated-wwii-vet-to-prove-hes-a-us-citizen)

I'm sure as an American he had no problem showing proof. I wouldn't.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Skilless on July 19, 2012, 09:27:43 AM
From the article:

"Manuel Nieto and Velia Meraz, both of whom are U.S. citizens, will recount how they were pulled over and handcuffed at gunpoint in the middle of the day for no apparent reason other than that Meraz was singing along to Spanish-language music when they passed a deputy."

Really?  Is this what the officer that detained him put in his official report as probable cause?

I sincerely doubt it, especially if he wanted any possible prosecution to hold water in any court...


Another quote from same article:

"Some of the plaintiffs will likely describe how Arpaio's so-called crime sweeps in neighborhoods targeted Latinos for interrogation about their immigration status based on nothing more than their appearance."

Well, since Arizona does not share any borders with any Asian or African countries, this seems more logical than confronting Asians or Africans.   :headscratch:

Yet another:

"For example, a Latino motorist was stopped for failing to use a turn signal and jailed for 13 days for failing to provide proper identification, even though he provided multiple documents sufficient to satisfy Arizona law"

I always have my ID on me, even when naked.  It prevents mistaken identity problems.

Confused..  It's not illegal to drive without a license in Arizona?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 19, 2012, 09:30:39 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 19, 2012, 09:32:20 AM
My eyes are open, he's obviously playing off people's fears and prejudices to draw attention away from his own alleged crimes. 

It's not hard to see that it works perfectly on some people.

hehe you are definitely confused.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: VonMessa on July 19, 2012, 09:38:38 AM
Confused..  It's not illegal to drive without a license in Arizona?

You should be confused, since I did not say that anywhere, at any time.

Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Slash27 on July 19, 2012, 09:53:50 AM
unless of course it's people like me who are expected to prove who we are at all times.


semp
bs
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Skilless on July 19, 2012, 09:54:12 AM
You should be confused, since I did not say that anywhere, at any time.



well...  You certainly didn't not say that either.  I know here, in michigan, driving without a license is a serious, arrestable offense.  And it's a real pain for even a legitimate resident with a valid license to get a replacement fit a lost one.

Why are you against the enforcement of law?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Skilless on July 19, 2012, 09:57:20 AM
If a legal alien is required by law to carry with them at all times proof of their immigration status and photo id, would it not be reasonable for law enforcement to assume that those that do not comply are here illegally?
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: VonMessa on July 19, 2012, 10:03:37 AM
well...  You certainly didn't not say that either.  I know here, in michigan, driving without a license is a serious, arrestable offense.  And it's a real pain for even a legitimate resident with a valid license to get a replacement fit a lost one.

Why are you against the enforcement of law?

You missed the final statement in my post...



I always have my ID on me, even when naked.  It prevents mistaken identity problems.

I apologize that this statement wasn't graphic or vulgar enough to help prove the point that one should be able to positively identify one's self at any time.  Next time I will post a pic of my driver's license hanging from my Johnson...
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: CAP1 on July 19, 2012, 10:08:22 AM
actually, if i'm not mistaken(and i may be) pa will and does issue drivers lisences to illegal residents. i seem to recall a customers employee(landscaper that doesn't come to me anymore after i got on his case about hiring those kinds of people) bragging to me that he can legally drive even though he's not legally here. he told me that when i asked him why his car was registered in pa when he lives in nj.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: VonMessa on July 19, 2012, 10:33:11 AM
actually, if i'm not mistaken(and i may be) pa will and does issue drivers lisences to illegal residents. i seem to recall a customers employee(landscaper that doesn't come to me anymore after i got on his case about hiring those kinds of people) bragging to me that he can legally drive even though he's not legally here. he told me that when i asked him why his car was registered in pa when he lives in nj.

Not unless he magically acquired a birth certificate or State-issued ID card before getting the license.

It is actually fairly difficult to get a driver's license in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

I had to bring 2 forms of ID just to get mine renewed and a new picture taken the last time it was about to expire.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: 1Boner on July 19, 2012, 10:54:08 AM
Apparently you need a social security # to get a Drivers license in Pa. However it doesn't say that it would refuse the equivalent ITIN card that is issued to illegal workers.

http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration-laws-and-resources/pennsylvania-state-immigration-laws.html
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: VonMessa on July 19, 2012, 11:13:07 AM
Inherently strange, since I have not had to produce an actual S.S. card in over 15 years (since the # is on my license)


http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/pub195us.pdf (http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/pub195us.pdf)
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 19, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
Inherently strange, since I have not had to produce an actual S.S. card in over 15 years (since the # is on my license)


http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/pub195us.pdf (http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/pub195us.pdf)


My Social Security card clearly states that it is not to be used as identification.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: VonMessa on July 19, 2012, 11:29:45 AM

My Social Security card clearly states that it is not to be used as identification.

I think that is why is says "One form of ID from list "A", AND a social security card"
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Bodhi on July 19, 2012, 11:34:42 AM

My Social Security card clearly states that it is not to be used as identification.

The SS Administration removed that several years back.  I had to get a new one, and the new one does not have that statement.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ariansworld on July 19, 2012, 12:01:04 PM
See Rules #2, #4

If your goal is to get banned from the board, you are going about it the right way.  Just FYI.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: CAP1 on July 19, 2012, 12:06:16 PM
Not unless he magically acquired a birth certificate or State-issued ID card before getting the license.

It is actually fairly difficult to get a driver's license in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

I had to bring 2 forms of ID just to get mine renewed and a new picture taken the last time it was about to expire.
2 forms only? come to nj and try.

 6 points. different id's are assigned different point values. no matter how many you have, one has to be your birth certificate. it's a pain in the bellybutton over here.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: CAP1 on July 19, 2012, 12:07:41 PM

My Social Security card clearly states that it is not to be used as identification.

 ss card in nj is worth 1 or 2 ponits as id. i think. my ppl was 2 or 3 i think, my CAP id card is counted as military id.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Yeager on July 19, 2012, 12:46:39 PM
Freedom, is it a right?  What is freedom anyway?  anarchy is full of freedom.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Bronk on July 19, 2012, 01:11:43 PM
Just keeps getting better. :rofl
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Dragon on July 19, 2012, 01:18:16 PM
Freedom, is it a right?  What is freedom anyway?  anarchy is full of freedom.

Hence the reason we have specific freedoms only.


Freedom of....

Freedom to....

Freedom from...


Everything else is not freedom.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Babalonian on July 19, 2012, 02:23:20 PM
(http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/2302984_o.gif)
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: ozrocker on July 19, 2012, 03:04:08 PM
We need a law like that up here in Michigan so we can pull over all the illegal Indian, Asian and Canadian looking types  driving around.

shamus  :rofl :rofl :rofl



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Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Maverick on July 19, 2012, 03:41:43 PM
Every time I go on base or use the PX/BX in civies I have to present an ID card. Not just any ID card but a specific one. It's no big deal. When I got my drivers license, way back when, I had to have a copy of my birth cert with me. When I use a credit card in many stores I am asked for an ID so when I went to the polling place it only seemed natural that I would be asked for official ID before voting. Didn't bother me a bit.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Babalonian on July 19, 2012, 05:47:16 PM
Every time I go on base or use the PX/BX in civies I have to present an ID card. Not just any ID card but a specific one. It's no big deal. When I got my drivers license, way back when, I had to have a copy of my birth cert with me. When I use a credit card in many stores I am asked for an ID so when I went to the polling place it only seemed natural that I would be asked for official ID before voting. Didn't bother me a bit.

Only thing about it that could be easier is if you could register to vote at the DMV or post office when you submit your ID aplication for processing.... o' waitaminute.  :D  :noid
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: guncrasher on July 19, 2012, 07:33:35 PM
Only thing about it that could be easier is if you could register to vote at the DMV or post office when you submit your ID aplication for processing.... o' waitaminute.  :D  :noid

hey try going back to the dmv because they sent you a driver's licence with somebody else's picture.  it happened to me twice.  the first time back in the 80's, it was a nightmare trying to prove it was my license but not me in the picture.  second time was in early 2k that one was easier and all they did was look at my pic from prior.


semp
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: CAP1 on July 19, 2012, 10:50:53 PM
hey try going back to the dmv because they sent you a driver's licence with somebody else's picture.  it happened to me twice.  the first time back in the 80's, it was a nightmare trying to prove it was my license but not me in the picture.  second time was in early 2k that one was easier and all they did was look at my pic from prior.


semp
you have to wait to get it in the mail? we go to dmv, give em our id stuffs, they snap our picture, and issue it to us right there.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: guncrasher on July 19, 2012, 11:31:58 PM
you have to wait to get it in the mail? we go to dmv, give em our id stuffs, they snap our picture, and issue it to us right there.

of course i lived in north Carolina.  their id's were just as good as the ones i got back in high school in 1984.  hell i could do better id's at home that they did at the dmv there.  most of the southern states arent any better.

printers that they use for those id's they give you right away are cheaper and easier to counterfeit than those used in other states where they mail them to you.

semp
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 19, 2012, 11:33:09 PM
I think he's going down.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Donzo on July 20, 2012, 12:42:53 AM
I think he's going down.


Who, Joe?

Nah.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 20, 2012, 01:45:43 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Chalenge on July 20, 2012, 01:58:06 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 20, 2012, 02:14:10 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Chalenge on July 20, 2012, 02:33:55 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 20, 2012, 02:45:40 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Chalenge on July 20, 2012, 02:55:56 AM
I think you need to look up the term because you obviously dont understand what it means which is precisely as I defined it.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: bj229r on July 20, 2012, 03:43:03 AM
of course i lived in north Carolina.  their id's were just as good as the ones i got back in high school in 1984.  hell i could do better id's at home that they did at the dmv there.  most of the southern states arent any better.

printers that they use for those id's they give you right away are cheaper and easier to counterfeit than those used in other states where they mail them to you.

semp

NC's Dmv has been a cluster for a heap long time http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=13003&ArticleId=324460
 From Jan. 1, 2002, to Aug. 28, 2006, North Carolina permitted the use of a taxpayer identification number, an ITIN or W-7, so that residents lacking a Social Security number could apply for a driver's license.

During that period, the Division of Motor Vehicles issued 220,983 licenses valid for five years to applicants presenting the ITIN as identification, the majority of them undocumented immigrants of Hispanic origin.
 
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 20, 2012, 04:48:00 AM
I think you need to look up the term because you obviously dont understand what it means which is precisely as I defined it.

The problem with your understanding is that you're trying to apply common sense and regular human assumptions to a legal matter.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Donzo on July 20, 2012, 06:37:57 AM
I think he's going down.


And I don't think it's ever wise to make predictions on what will come out of a court.

You're right, it's not.
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 20, 2012, 08:52:38 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 20, 2012, 08:54:28 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Chalenge on July 20, 2012, 01:24:37 PM
Exactly Shuffler. Rob doesnt have a clue about what he is talking about. Obviously.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Rob52240 on July 20, 2012, 01:25:27 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Shuffler on July 20, 2012, 01:30:50 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Joe Arpaio...at it again
Post by: Skuzzy on July 20, 2012, 01:34:54 PM
This looks done.

Folks, read rule 14 again.  It gets tiresome to have to suspend bulletin board accounts over it.