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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 800nate800 on July 18, 2012, 08:07:38 AM
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Is it perked?
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no
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it is restricted to age 15 and above though and it has no radio so country comm is disabled in flight. sorry nate
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The gear retraction and deployment animation is very well done on the Me410. The animations for the gear and gear doors are all in sync rather than having them all play at the same time like on the other aircraft. The doors open, the gear then retract or deploy, then the doors close.
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What a hellish plane it must have been for the allies during the war.... that 50mm must have had many of men puckering in their seats... awesome plane.
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What a hellish plane it must have been for the allies during the war.... that 50mm must have had many of men puckering in their seats... awesome plane.
Dadsgun if it appeared at all yes. It wasn't very good at all and actually pulled by the LW from bomber interception when long range escorts
started showing up with the bombers. Poor maneuverability, speed mediocre at best. BF 110 production was halted with the anticipated arrival of the 210/410.
However, production was started again on the 110 because of the disappointing performance of the 210/410. Had big guns yes. Had to fly it to the target.
That was the big problem. The 210 had horrible flight charachteristics I've read. The 410 was developed to cure the problems of the 210. It did somewhat.
There was just to many faults to correct and make it a viable fighter. It failed. Big time. And the LW as usual muddled up everything by trying to make it a jack of
all trades. They created a nice target. So during sometime in 1944, the 410 really wasn't a big issue for Bombers. It rarely if ever showed up when bombers were escorted
deep into europe.
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What a hellish plane it must have been for the allies during the war.... that 50mm must have had many of men puckering in their seats... awesome plane.
I think it had the Me 410 pilots puckering just as much as the bomber crews it was intended to shoot down. The BK 5 cannon was supposed to give the Me 410 the means to engage the bombers from a safe stand off range beyond the fire of the bomber's defensive guns but instead pilots had to close dangeriously close to the bombers in order for the BK 5 cannon to be effective resulting in the Me 410 pilot having to close within the bomber's defensive cone of fire and the BK 5 had a tendency to jam after a couple of rounds.
In AH, the BK 5 cannon will be far more effective than it was in real life.
ack-ack
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It is the premier feild de-acker of all times. And the BK5 can take out all light GV. It took about 6 50mm to take down the radar and I quit counting on buildings, ammo and fuel at about 8 rounds. But, using it's 20mm only took a 1-2 second burst on all of those objects becasue they have some amount of penetration.
The 50mm is a scaled up Minengeschoss with 335g of HTA (Hexogen, TNT and aluminum powder). Like the 30mm Minengeschoss it has a thin steel casing, soft metal nose and relys on the detonation to do the damage. This is why one round takes off a B17 wing at the root.
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BK5 50mm does 54.68lbs of damage. MK103 30mm does 12.99lbs of damage. MK108 30mm does 11.71lbs of damage. Hispano Mk II 20mm does 4.06lbs of damage. Browning .50 does 1.17lbs of damage.
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BK5 50mm does 54.68lbs of damage. MK103 30mm does 12.99lbs of damage. MK108 30mm does 11.71lbs of damage. Hispano Mk II 20mm does 4.06lbs of damage. Browning .50 does 1.17lbs of damage.
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I have no doubt the performance here will be far greater than what it really was, but I have had some decent fun with it so far in game though....
I was taking some long range shots at bombers with it which worked fairly well with minimal loss of trajectory...will need some practice.
I look forward to flap fighting with it since that seems where it may be decent at and most of all its not going to be an "easy" mode type of plane to win with and should get some decent fights out of it.. at best it will test you for sure.
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wonder if anyone managed to get a tank kill with it? Thought i did but it was an assist.
wanted to see if I could get within 400 and see how if the Bk5 would penetrate or not.
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wonder if anyone managed to get a tank kill with it?
I tried it offline and it worked.
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did anybody notice how many "special" players were trying to kill tanks with the 410 at a1 yesterday? look at the stats tanks/werbies had almost 1/4 of all the kills on 410's.
semp
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I tried it offline and it worked.
I tried it too, offline. Sure you can kill tanks, but the Ju 87G-2 guns are far more effective....
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I tried it too, offline. Sure you can kill tanks, but the Ju 87G-2 guns are far more effective....
But the gun is bigger! :x
I think that's the main reason why I saw so many more 410 lifting to attack tanks than 87G's last night.... ;)
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Mixed feelings on the 410. It accelerates slowly and takes a long time to get to its relatively decent top speed. Climb rate is so so. It has relatively poor elevator authority and does not pull out of a fast dive very well. If you lose one of the two elevators, your hosed, because it then really sucks in turns and I mean bad.
It’s fairly good for stall fighting, but by no means a turn fighter. I can certainly see this being the choice bird for porkers however who are looking to level bases. But I find them easy to kill, so yippee!!!
When fighting 410’s, what I'm finding is they will generally try hard to turn into you to HO you, depending on the devastating canon load and start spraying from 1200 out. I'm mean the freaking thing carries 1500 20 mm's!! Plus a set of four decent machine guns (more than 6 spits)!!
They will fight vertically, until they start getting slow, then expect the 410 to fall off rapidly to the right. Spin recovery is similar to the Mossie and even the flat spin is pretty easy to get out of. At low speeds, while scissoring, it has the same nasty habit of FW's which is to snap over inverted at low speed, close to the ground. Gets ugly fast!
Overall, I think they will end up being nice crunchy fighter snacks.
PS., if you aren't paying attention, the 410's rear guns might scratch your planes paint.
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Mixed feelings on the 410. It accelerates slowly and takes a long time to get to its relatively decent top speed. Climb rate is so so. It has relatively poor elevator authority and does not pull out of a fast dive very well. If you lose one of the two elevators, your hosed, because it then really sucks in turns and I mean bad.
When I fly it, I'll be hunting buffs. Sawed a Lanc in half from the low 12 position today.
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The 410 is very affective for me atleast. I have yet to try it on a tiger or panther though.
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I flew the 410 some off line and it was about what I expected. As twin engine fighters go the 410 is far behind the P-38 Mosquito and the ME-110 in flying characteristics as I see it. I could pull out of a flat spin in it but is takes a while to get speed up. Better start from a grid away if you want altitude and enough speed to bomber hunt in it. Now the gun package is another story especially the 20mm pack and I would advise against Hoing it. It is very lethal and made short work of killing a bomber drone..
I shot at drone tanks and had so so luck killing one with the big gun and it was worthless on the Tiger for me. I flew to an enemy base to deack with it. I did get hit with auto ack more than I do in say the 110 or any single engine fighter I have used to kill ack. I still would rather deack with rockets on a P-51. HTC did a great job on the plane itself with the cockpit and over all attention to detail and I suspect they have the flight modeling spot on from what I read on the ME-410 in operation with the Luftwaffe. I think I will try out the new JU-87 today.
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I will never fly this Narzzie plane but will hunt it down with glee in my Typhoon :old: