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Title: AM i over doing it?
Post by: DuncanIdaho on July 22, 2012, 05:28:46 PM: I got the track ir and a nice ch setup but my computer is older... i went onto new egg and figured i can peice together a computer over the next month or 2 with all my OT money.. this is what i cam up with so far..

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0
Item #: N82E16811129021
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
-$6.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$105.99
$99.99


Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148697
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
Recover Your Data(expand for options)
-$10.00 Instant
$109.99
$99.99


XFX HD-687X-CNFC Radeon HD 6870 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814150563
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$219.99
$209.99
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Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE ...
Item #: N82E16817371050
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$30.00 Instant
$159.99
$129.99


G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL10Q-32GBXL
Item #: N82E16820231490
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$199.99


ASUS Maximus V FORMULA LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131854
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$10.00 Instant
$289.99
$279.99


Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
Item #: N82E16819116501
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

am i missing anything here its been a few years since i built a computer....
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: cattb on July 22, 2012, 06:50:44 PM: Not sure all of what your going to use your puter for now or in the future, but 32 gig RAM is alot of RAM. A 900 watt PSU is good, seems like more power then you need. I prefer WD over Seagate, but this is just my personal preference even though I have run seagate with no problems.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: SilverZ06 on July 22, 2012, 07:26:28 PM: I would save a $100 and get 16gb(instead of 32gb)of RAM that you'll never use and use that extra $100 on a better video card. Don't forget your operating system.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: DuncanIdaho on July 22, 2012, 07:29:20 PM: OS wont be a problem... as this box will be running linux full time the one im on now for my homebrewing "beer" software... what vcard do you suggest.. i do allot of photo editing "other hobby" so i thought the 32megs would be good for a while for that
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: Spikes on July 22, 2012, 08:48:21 PM: I have that video card and it is extremely loud under load...over 40% fan speed.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: morfiend on July 23, 2012, 02:22:30 AM: Look closely at that antec PSU,might want to read some forums before you purchase.

I would go with seasonic,corsair or even the new xfx psu's. I've had antec psu's in the past and they werent very reliable.

:salute
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: Skuzzy on July 23, 2012, 06:17:19 AM: Antec used to be a good power supply brand. I would not use them for a doorstop today.

Seasoniic makes some of the best power supplies available today. So good, that companies such as Corsair and Thermaltake (among others) repackage them as their own.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: gyrene81 on July 23, 2012, 07:47:59 AM: unless you're going to load that system up with dual high end video cards, a 700 watt power supply (of good quality) will give you the power needed. like others have said, 16gb of ram is more than enough, even for photo work. that is one expensive mobo you picked out... :eek:

the $100+ you will save with the memory downgrade will get you a better video card...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150605 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150605)

better power supply...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151107 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151107)
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: DuncanIdaho on July 23, 2012, 03:54:13 PM: thats why i posted on here i been out of building my computer for so long like power supply i thought antec was good didnt know they went to crap... so what would you guys build then since i dont know crap
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: 1Cane on July 23, 2012, 05:47:39 PM: It looks to me that you're near $1400 and don't have an operating system. I would check with Cyberpower.com and look at the Fang Rattler and go with a 6950 card. I bought mine at Christmas it was ready for pick up early and I've been happy with their support although it can be slow.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: DuncanIdaho on July 24, 2012, 05:36:06 AM: Quote from: 1Cane on July 23, 2012, 05:47:39 PM
It looks to me that you're near $1400 and don't have an operating system. I would check with Cyberpower.com and look at the Fang Rattler and go with a 6950 card. I bought mine at Christmas it was ready for pick up early and I've been happy with their support although it can be slow.

Os is not a problem....
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: gyrene81 on July 24, 2012, 11:43:32 AM: you're on the right track Duncan. it will be a nice system for sure.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: Bino on July 24, 2012, 11:55:20 AM: At somewhere around US $280, a Radeon HD 7870 might be worth considering.
Reviews that I've read say that it's almost as fast at running real world apps as the HD 7950, while costing about US $75 less.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: DuncanIdaho on July 24, 2012, 02:54:51 PM: here is my updated list... with suggestions from you guys

MSI R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5/OC Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Model #:R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD
Item #:N82E16814127667
Return Policy:VGA Standard Return Policy
In Stock
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$329.99       $329.99


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G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C9D-16GXH
Model #:F3-2133C9D-16GXH
Item #:N82E16820231571
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
In Stock
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$169.99       $169.99


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CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ...
Model #:CMPSU-750TXV2
Item #:N82E16817139021
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$139.99   -$30.00 Instant   $109.99


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Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0
Model #:Nine Hundred
Item #:N82E16811129021
Return Policy:Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
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$105.99   -$6.00 Instant   $99.99


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ASUS Maximus V FORMULA LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
Model #:Maximus V FORMULA
Item #:N82E16813131854
Return Policy:Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add)
$289.99   -$10.00 Instant   $279.99


Update

Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
Model #:BX80637I73770K
Item #:N82E16819116501
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add)
$339.99       $339.99


Update

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:ST31000524AS
Item #:N82E16822148697
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add)
$109.99   -$10.00 Instant   $99.99
Subtotal:   $1,429.93
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: SilverZ06 on July 24, 2012, 06:49:08 PM: :O :aok That is a nice rig.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: guncrasher on July 25, 2012, 01:02:01 PM: alright something to research here. I believe I read in several reviews that windows can only take advantage of ram up to 1600 or is that the mobo? either that or that anything above that is not really an advantage. so you can save yourself 100 bucks an order a 1600.

semp

edit: make that a cpu limitation.

edit2: I would also get a higher ps. you never know down the road when the 750 is not good enough.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: Skuzzy on July 25, 2012, 01:08:10 PM: Quote from: guncrasher on July 25, 2012, 01:02:01 PM
alright something to research here. I believe I read in several reviews that windows can only take advantage of ram up to 1600 or is that the mobo? either that or that anything above that is not really an advantage. so you can save yourself 100 bucks an order a 1600.

semp

edit: make that a cpu limitation.

edit2: I would also get a higher ps. you never know down the road when the 750 is not good enough.

Actually power consumption is trending down. The current crop of high end ATI cards use less power than the previous generation did. Intel CPU's have also stepped down in power usage.

Not saying that it will stay that way, but all indicators from various players show high concerns over power usage of their respective parts and have taken steps to reduce it.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: DuncanIdaho on July 25, 2012, 01:27:44 PM: Quote from: Skuzzy on July 25, 2012, 01:08:10 PM
Actually power consumption is trending down. The current crop of high end ATI cards use less power than the previous generation did. Intel CPU's have also stepped down in power usage.

Not saying that it will stay that way, but all indicators from various players show high concerns over power usage of their respective parts and have take steps to reduce it.

so 750w good? is the brand of graphics card anygood? and is the motherboard OK someone one said it was really expensive is there a better alternative?
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: ColTomb on July 25, 2012, 03:11:51 PM: DuncanIdaho, you have selected an extended ATX M/B 12.0 x 10.1 . According to the manufacture the largest M/B size that your Antec 900 case can hold is a standard ATX 12.0 x 9.6 .

http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=23&fid=4
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: DuncanIdaho on July 25, 2012, 03:25:56 PM: Quote from: ColTomb on July 25, 2012, 03:11:51 PM
DuncanIdaho, you have selected an extended ATX M/B 12.0 x 10.1 . According to the manufacture the largest M/B size that your Antec 900 case can hold is a standard ATX 12.0 x 9.6 .

http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=23&fid=4

thank you :) will change it.. So i want a full tower then?

like this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: ColTomb on July 25, 2012, 03:37:48 PM: Yes, That case will support extended ATX M/B...
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: Skuzzy on July 25, 2012, 03:56:15 PM: Good catch ColTomb.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: DuncanIdaho on July 25, 2012, 04:09:45 PM: whelp gonna buy the case and ps on Friday and piece it together over the next month :)
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: ColTomb on July 25, 2012, 05:38:21 PM: Thank you sir. Also, it is good idea to check with the manufacture on specification on your components, NewEgg is not always right...
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: guncrasher on July 25, 2012, 11:27:42 PM: there are other cases that are bigger than the 900 for about the same price.

semp
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: ebfd11 on July 27, 2012, 04:17:28 PM: I have the 810 switch and that thing makes my full sized ATX board look like a mini ATX. you might want to check that one out.

http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/crafted_series/switch_810

LawnDart
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: Drano on July 28, 2012, 01:07:39 PM: First, you'll find the CPU will not be taxed very much by AH. I rarely get to 15% load during the game according to Aida64. Ya done good with the video card tho and that's what's gonna take the hit with this game, or not in your case. I have a Z68/2600K/16gb vengeance/ZX1000w OCZ PSU rig I put together last year with a MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III card and it rocks this game with everything maxed out. The cooler on that card is outstanding.

You're gonna likey dat. :aok
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: Zeagle on July 28, 2012, 01:50:51 PM: I like to run a separate drive for the os and a raid1 mirror for everything else. Thats at least 3 drives minimum.

This separates the os from my data and gives me some fault tolerence if a drive fails. Important for storing pictures etc.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: MaSonZ on July 28, 2012, 03:26:09 PM: Quote from: ebfd11 on July 27, 2012, 04:17:28 PM
I have the 810 switch and that thing makes my full sized ATX board look like a mini ATX. you might want to check that one out.

http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/crafted_series/switch_810

LawnDart

+1. makes all my components look smaller then they are... and the means of wire management that NZXT offers in it are truely outstanding if your looking for a clean inside.
Title: Re: AM i over doing it?
Post by: deadstikmac on August 10, 2012, 10:10:39 AM: My only humble suggestion would be:

Go with a Solid State HD... Drop the size a TB is :banana: amount of space. :old: You could go half that size and get a SSHD. Or go with one that has a 10,000 rpm HD http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=20

Use a smaller size hd for the system and then run a 7200rpm hd for pictures and music ect... Setting up a RAID in essence for the best use of performance not best use of storage space.

:airplane:~<DeadStickMac