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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tac on July 24, 2012, 07:31:24 AM
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Having had the unfortunate experience of helping a rescue team pull the bodies of a drowned couple after their car fell into a lake and the pressure between the outside and inside of the car prevented them from escaping... I always wondered what I'd do if it had been me in there.
Today I saw this.. and it is something that could save your life.
http://youtu.be/oMFNy-_gQR0
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I can say as someone who ended up on the roof in the back of a car upside down rapidly sinking in a river in their early teens...that was the last thing I was thinking about
Tronsky
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Thanks for the info- :salute
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I have a small hammer that is made for shattering glass in each of our vehicles. When you remove it from it's holder an LED light comes on in the handle. It has a slot that has a blade in it that you can slip your seatbelt into and it will cut it. The hammer comes to a small point that is designed to shatter glass either above or below water.
This is close to what mine look like... (http://www.survival-supply.com/images/emergency/AA1805.jpg)
If you have electric powered windows. and who doesn't these days, crashing into water will more than likely short the system.
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:salute
should be supplied as standard in a car.
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:salute
should be supplied as standard in a car.
As well as hot coffee catch aprons attached to the seatbelts, accident avoidance systems, and how about something to wake you up if you fall asleep?
How much further towards total pu55ification will the stupid and lazy push?
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As well as hot coffee catch aprons attached to the seatbelts, accident avoidance systems, and how about something to wake you up if you fall asleep?
How much further towards total pu55ification will the stupid and lazy push?
Dude, there is no need to even go there.
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:rofl
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As well as hot coffee catch aprons attached to the seatbelts, accident avoidance systems, and how about something to wake you up if you fall asleep?
How much further towards total pu55ification will the stupid and lazy push?
:huh
I'll admit it is slightly above the middle of the scale in terms of borderline paranoid preparedness, but it would be something that if you needed it, you'd be pretty happy to have it. At least it looks like it would do the job it's designed for. My only question is, where does one put it in the car? It wouldn't be much good if you couldn't reach it.
Wiley.
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Far less likely to bash your head in during a rollover event and much smaller.
Most of those hammers rattle in the door pocket just waiting to hurt you.
(http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_18511.jpg)
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:huh
I'll admit it is slightly above the middle of the scale in terms of borderline paranoid preparedness, but it would be something that if you needed it, you'd be pretty happy to have it. At least it looks like it would do the job it's designed for. My only question is, where does one put it in the car? It wouldn't be much good if you couldn't reach it.
Wiley.
Yup.... I care alot about my family. It's just one more thing I can do to possibly save them in certain situations.
The one mounted my Daughter's camaro is on the side of the center console within easy reach. Her's is safety orange. My Wife's is on the side of her console in her Tahoe. Her's is safety orange.
Mine is located on the side of my console in my HD2500 crew...... two tone grey.
When you remove it from it's holder the LED comes on.
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I actually keep a carpenters nail set in the glove box of all my vechs for just this issue. Press the nail set against the glass and it takes suprisingly little force to shatter the window. I (well my son anyway) got to test it out at my local FD when they were doing Jaws of life practice. (friend of mine is the cheif) My son was 8yrs old at the time, and it shattered with very little force.
The amount of force on the tip of the nail set is incredible.
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very similar to the one that icepack posted the pic of
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Far less likely to bash your head in during a rollover event and much smaller.
Most of those hammers rattle in the door pocket just waiting to hurt you.
(http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_18511.jpg)
Actually they have a nice solid mount where they do not rattle at all. The tool you posted is fine also. It does not have a light or a cutting tool but works on the windows.
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didn't Myth busters cover this?
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I have this 1 for work and in my cars. It is easy and fast. It is spring loaded so you just need to press it against the window and the pin fires, my wife is able to use it without a problem. The tool is a combination window punch / seat belt cutter / and small LED light.
(http://images.outdoorpros.com/images/prod/6/Benchmade-30200-rw-75913-91920.jpg)
Benchmade 30200 Black Houdini Pro Rescue Tool, Yellow
Be prepared for any situation that could put you or your family in harm’s way by always having your Houdini™ near by. It’s the emergency rescue tool that could save your life.
Benchmade 30200 Black Houdini Pro Rescue Tool, Yellow Features:
• Window Breaker Is Spring-Loaded Tempered Glass Punch Lets You Safely Exit Your Vehicle
• Seatbelt CutterQuickly Frees You, Even When You’Re Upside Down.
• Led Flashlight5-Lumen Lamp Lights The Way With Approximately 10 Hours Of Runtime.
• Batteries Included: (2) LITHIUM CR1216
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As a Crash-Rescue firefighter we had harness cutters so we could reach in and release lap belts or harnesses if needed, but as the occupant it's going to be a lot easier and faster to just use the normal belt release vs ANY rescue tool. Do what you're used to doing, don't start changing things up in times of stress.
The odds are very slim your belt release will fail to function. I know of one case where the victim was screaming his belt wouldn't release as his float plane sank. Recovery personnel were able to release the belt in the normal manner without any problem. Stress makes even the simplest task difficult.
If you're going to use a window popper be sure to do it on the side glass, you won't be able to get thru the windshield.
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I have this $15.00 knife clipped to my seat belt buckle. It has a carbide glass breaker and seat belt cutter as well as a sharp blade. Easy to find knowing it's right where you unbuckle every day.
(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/d0nwaters/Knife.jpg)
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As a Crash-Rescue firefighter we had harness cutters so we could reach in and release lap belts or harnesses if needed, but as the occupant it's going to be a lot easier and faster to just use the normal belt release vs ANY rescue tool. Do what you're used to doing, don't start changing things up in times of stress.
The odds are very slim your belt release will fail to function. I know of one case where the victim was screaming his belt wouldn't release as his float plane sank. Recovery personnel were able to release the belt in the normal manner without any problem. Stress makes even the simplest task difficult.
If you're going to use a window popper be sure to do it on the side glass, you won't be able to get thru the windshield.
I was in a bad car accident around Christmas 2 years ago and was trapped in the car. I hydroplaned of the highway and t-boned a tree on the drivers side. I was pinned between the door, steering column and center console, I broke my pelvis and shattered my left elbow. I could not reach my seat belt release on my right side with my right arm, and was trapped in my car for 30 minutes.
I called 911, no passer by stopped to help, and luckily I didn't pass out.
Even after the fireman and EMT used the jaws of life on the door and removed the roof they still couldn't get me out. I had to "wiggle" my my out of the car, thank god I was in shock and didn't feel it as much as I should.
I now have side air bags in my car and a seat belt cutter, though I may get that combo thing.
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I have one of those automatic salamander punches, amazing little tool would have never thought of it to break glass though maybe I will have to try it. glad my bleep has no doors and my truck has manual windows.
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I picked up one of those 5-in-1 seat belt cutter and window snap style hole punchers. It is a light weight device and I think it even has a couple LED signal lights as well. I think I found it at Walmart or an auto-parts store. I currently store it in my car’s ash tray. I am thinking of tying it to a string or using Velcro so it can be found should the accident be a serious one. I am pretty sure the ash tray lid will not hold it if the car takes a large hit.
Mythbusters had a good episode on how to escape a car underwater:
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode72 (http://mythbustersresults.com/episode72)
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And if you live in the North and like to drive out onto frozen lakes to go ice fishing, drive with your windows down just in case you go through the ice...
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I dont carry a knife or anything. i dont believe in driving in the rivers.
semp
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I have had a couple of those knives with the window punch tip, they are OK but you need to hit the window with a lot of force and really make sure you get 1 of the bottom corners. I wouldn't want to be in that position and not have the strength to break the glass.
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:huh
I'll admit it is slightly above the middle of the scale in terms of borderline paranoid preparedness, but it would be something that if you needed it, you'd be pretty happy to have it. At least it looks like it would do the job it's designed for. My only question is, where does one put it in the car? It wouldn't be much good if you couldn't reach it.
Wiley.
I keep a Leatherman in my door pocket at all times because it is an overall good tool to have and am sure I could use it to break a window if I ever found myself boating the Jag in lake Erie or floating down the Cuyahoga (hope it's not on fire).
Buying a tool to break glass in case of an auto boating mishap is more than "slightly above the middle of the scale".