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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: tuton25 on July 28, 2012, 01:46:29 PM
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The HE-111 was an early war bomber that served in large numbers during WWII, but is best known for its use in the Battle of Britain. The HE-111 first flew in 1935, designed as a "high speed passenger/mail transport" during the Versills years. It saw action until 1943, when it was religated to transport roles.
HE-111H-3
Armament: x3 7.92mm MG 15
Bomb load: x8 250kg bombs or x32 50kg bombs
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If there is one plane that AH is GLARINGLY missing... the He111 is that plane.
Yes indeed, I sincerely hope HTC is able to get that Luftwaffe workhorse in to AH sooner than later. It is not the slouch some people claim it to be. Use some 190A-5 escorts and it shall pass safely. :aok
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+1 we only have 1 german bomber so far
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+1 we only have 1 german bomber so far
Two, Ar234 and Ju88, but we need a couple more. He111 and Ju188.
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Two, Ar234 and Ju88, but we need a couple more. He111 and Ju188.
I forgot that 1 but a dont count it as one because it is rare and is not prop driven
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Fair enough. Just say no to hair driers.
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Fair enough. Just say no to hair driers.
:rofl
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Two, Ar234 and Ju88, but we need a couple more. He111 and Ju188.
Is the Ju-87 considered an attack plane?
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Is the Ju-87 considered an attack plane?
dive bomber and attack
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As for the HE-111 you would think that the HE-111 would have been the 2nd German plane in the game right after the ME-109.
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As for the HE-111 you would think that the HE-111 would have been the 2nd German plane in the game right after the ME-109.
Nope. In a fighter centric game I'd expect the Fw190A to be next, and it was. For bombers I'd expect the Ju88 as it is more widely useful and was saw greater use, and it was. After that, given the Ju88A-4 is not an outrageous stand in for the other early war German bombers, I wouldn't expect the He111 at any particular time.
Just like the 18000 B-24s that were built didn't have representation in the game for a long time as the B-17G had the same ground, more or less, covered.
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I'm curious if whether or not the Fritz could be modeled with the He-111H-16. If coding could allow for it, it'd be one hell of a fun toy.
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Oh, I'm sure it COULD be added, but the question is SHOULD it be added? Like the Nuke, V1, and V2, I don't think we should add any of those high-tech superweapons.
He-111 H6, H11/R1, and H16 would be best if we wanted to both cover it well, and give a good, semi-usefull bomber.
We could make due with the H6, and H11/R1, though the H16 would be nice for its improved amament.
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Nuke won't be added because it was used twice.
V1 if added would be almost useless since targets in AH are too small.
V2 would be the same as above.
The Fritz was used effectively and plenty of times. Not a huge game breaker because the He-111 itself is vulnerable until within close range.
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Its still a guided bomb, dude.
He-111 climbs to high altitude to avoid intercept, comes overhead, sinks CV.
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We also have manned 5 inch guns. :aok ..."dude".
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And so? Those are of limited effectiveness against anything much above 15k. And if the target is taking evasive action (no nice, flat bomb run needed with a guided bomb), you're not going to hit it except by luck.
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I think the Fritz-X is very unlikely to be added. Why?
Cause avoiding each other (releasing a guided bomb from far away and escape) is against the game philosophy. my 2 cents.
Anyway, the 111 was an aging design even in the EW (see the BoB), even against spit1s and hurri1s. Would be a total death trap in the MAs, we also dont very often have EW events.
Ju-188 ftw and would be a better aircraft for the average gameplay. Nuff said!
;)
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And so? Those are of limited effectiveness against anything much above 15k. And if the target is taking evasive action (no nice, flat bomb run needed with a guided bomb), you're not going to hit it except by luck.
Lol, you aim for the rocket, not the plane. Even if the manned 5in can't hit it (highly unlikely), we also have auto ack, and I'm sure a single hit is enough to blow it up.
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Yes, because the gunner is going to be able to (or even should) see the bomb falling from 15k, and will be able to accurately target it :rolleyes:.
1) if you can shoot down this bomb, I want to be able to shoot down all bombs.
2) if this bomb has an icon to show its possition for gunners, I want all bombs to show an icon.
3) if auto ack fires at this bomb, I want it to fire at all bombs.
Its still a bomb, its still bomb-sized, its still falling. The only difference between the fritz x-bomb and a standard bomb is that the x-bomb could be guided onto it's target.
Theres no way to make the bomb practical (ie, not heavily perked) and follow the spirit of the game without unrealistic differentiation between this bomb and any other bomb.
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This is gonna turn into a Butcher vs Tank Ace-like argument if I even attempt to argue with some one who doesn't even play the game.
NEXT!
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This is gonna turn into a Butcher vs Tank Ace-like argument if I even attempt to argue with some one who doesn't even play the game.
Thats entirely irrelevent. This would be new to someone who'd played the game yesterday, and that experience from yesterday wouldn't help them use or counter it more effectively.
However, it does give you a nice excuse to bail from a losing argument.
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How do I "lose an argument" if the only one arguing is you? :rofl
NEXT!
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How do I "lose an argument" if the only one arguing is you? :rofl
Only because you bailed out. Either defend your point, or shut up and quit trolling. Because I'm gonna be honest here, it sounds REALLY sweethearty to go around saying "nyuh-uh! Fritz x-bomb would so work!", and then imediately flip around and say "I wasn't arguing, it was all you. NEXT!", not just once, but twice in the span of a few hours.
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AGREED!!!! :aok
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+1 for the HE-111
Followed closely by the Ki-43 and Yak-3 please.
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Only because you bailed out. Either defend your point, or shut up and quit trolling. Because I'm gonna be honest here, it sounds REALLY sweethearty to go around saying "nyuh-uh! Fritz x-bomb would so work!", and then imediately flip around and say "I wasn't arguing, it was all you. NEXT!", not just once, but twice in the span of a few hours.
It would work. Anything can work if you put your mind to it.
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Forget fritz-x. Forget special bombs, or dumb icons and shooting bombs.
Just give us a BOB era He-111 (111H-2? 111H-4? something in this range)
And then give us a later version for use later on in scenarios, etc. Wouldn't be much different, but would have just about the same 3D shape.
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moin
if we get the he 111 some day, i want this version :-)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiEH1NoomLv_h4K2b4ycqXnbLDb24kjY5mC-fzC85ZUzsafAkE7w)
cu christian
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Fairy Swordfish