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Title: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on July 28, 2012, 10:06:16 PM
ladies and germs, side assignments and cic's are posted.

http://ahevents.org/fso-view-side-assignments.html

Allied CIC

Frame 1=367th Fg 'The Dynamite Gang
Frame 2=364th C-HAWKS FG
Frame 3=9GIAP VVS RKKA

Axis CIC

Frame 1=JG54
Frame 2=SWAMPDRAGONS
Frame 3=III/JG11

 i would like to please see all CIC's respond here in this thread acknowledging that they are aware of their assignments.

 i will have objectives out tomorrow. since many of you have never received an email from me before, please be on the lookout for mail from "rford268539@aol.com".

 thank you all, and have fun!!   :salute

Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Bino on July 28, 2012, 11:31:53 PM
JG11 Axis C-in-C for Frame 3, viktor-viktor.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: surfinn on July 29, 2012, 07:58:09 PM
 :huh aol still exist?
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on July 29, 2012, 10:17:17 PM
:huh aol still exist?

yeppers. i've had that email since i was on dial up flying air warrior. can't make myself give it up.

 so far, i've only got ONE CIC checked in guys.

 
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: 1Cane on July 30, 2012, 11:57:21 AM
The Joker's will be flying  axis this frame. :salute
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Bannor on July 30, 2012, 06:09:57 PM
FATE will be flying with a bunch of Jokers this frame!  :rofl  :banana:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: RSLQK186 on July 30, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
yeppers. i've had that email since i was on dial up flying air warrior. can't make myself give it up.
I still play on AOL dial-up. Oddly enough I am just as good now as I was 12 years ago when I started :(
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Tippo on July 30, 2012, 07:21:14 PM
Acknowledge Swampdragons CIC Axis frame 2.   :salute
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: captain1ma on July 30, 2012, 09:45:15 PM
Acknowledge JG54 CIC Axis frame 1. send away, ill be looking for it! do you have any idea how good the beer in munich is!!
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on July 30, 2012, 10:46:30 PM
Acknowledge JG54 CIC Axis frame 1. send away, ill be looking for it! do you have any idea how good the beer in munich is!!

 you guys all gonna be wearing your leiderhosen?   :devil

 objectives have been sent sir.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Butcher on July 30, 2012, 11:07:05 PM
Someone put TopGun on the wrong side, were allies for this FSO.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Squire on July 30, 2012, 11:21:40 PM
The side requests cannot always be ahered to but we do try. Its simply not possible to just go on what a squad requested as the side ratios would be way off. We do try and be as fair as we can about it. Its the price we pay to ensure you all fly together as a squad otherwise as per Scenario registration methods we would be breaking up squad members and assigning them individually sometimes which we do not do in FSO. Its not perfect but most times it works pretty good. :salute
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Dantoo on July 31, 2012, 12:12:57 AM
 :salute
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: UncleKurt on July 31, 2012, 03:36:03 PM
 :aok
Thanks for considering our side, and ride requests.
 :salute
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: perdue3 on July 31, 2012, 10:31:04 PM
“we are not looking for a rule for every gimmick you can come up with, we are looking for players with a better perspective on the event than this.  Clearly, this event is not for everyone.”

-ROC
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: DrBone1 on August 01, 2012, 04:22:49 AM
Are you Serious Butcher?  :rofl




Cya next month.  :bolt:
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 01, 2012, 07:35:31 AM
c'mon guys.........perdu, and dr bone.......don't turn this into an "o-club" bs thing please?
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: perdue3 on August 01, 2012, 09:28:17 AM
They're not going to fly cuz they didnt get what they want. Why are they still here?
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Butcher on August 01, 2012, 09:38:35 AM
They're not going to fly cuz they didnt get what they want. Why are they still here?

Keep on griefing, we learned to deal with it.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Bino on August 01, 2012, 09:44:19 AM
President Merkin Muffley: Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 01, 2012, 09:45:25 AM
President Merkin Muffley: Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.


 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Spikes on August 01, 2012, 10:01:48 AM
Are you Serious Butcher?  :rofl




Cya next month.  :bolt:
I don't get it. Are you asking why Butcher posted what he did?
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Butcher on August 01, 2012, 10:13:54 AM
I don't get it. Are you asking why Butcher posted what he did?

Few days ago I got the axis orders, but I know we signed up for the allies so I was puzzled - I didn't know we got switched to axis.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Spikes on August 01, 2012, 10:36:54 AM
Few days ago I got the axis orders, but I know we signed up for the allies so I was puzzled - I didn't know we got switched to axis.
Oh, he didn't know...now I get it. Yeah it happens to everyone at some point...it's just the luck of the draw.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: perdue3 on August 01, 2012, 01:12:55 PM
If everyone got the side they asked for every FSO, Axis would have less than 70 players.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Butcher on August 01, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
If everyone got the side they asked for every FSO, Axis would have less than 70 players.

And we signed up for Allies, few days later I get the Axis CIC orders - I was making sure it wasn't a MISTAKE you know that thing people do sometimes. Nobody told me we were switched to axis, I just didn't want an issue if some reason we were ALLIED getting AXIS orders.

Make sense now don't it?

If we'd gotten a simple email it would of been a non issue.

Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 01, 2012, 01:38:47 PM
ANY OF you guys that know me, know i'm a peeee38 dweeb. and dam proud of it. that is my preferred ride. but when i fly fso's, i fly whatever our squad is assigned to fly. i even flew an il2 a few weeks ago. to me, the fun in fso is the immersion factor. do you know how dam hard it is to hide from a swarm of enemies so as to report their position to a larger defense force, rather than dive in guns blazing? i can tell ya it's hard as hell.

 anyway........hat's my 2 cents.

 btw....butcher....those weren't orders, but rather objectives, if you're referencing the mail from me. i can't give the orders. those will come from your sides cic.  :aok
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Butcher on August 01, 2012, 01:40:39 PM

 btw....butcher....those weren't orders, but rather objectives, if you're referencing the mail from me. i can't give the orders. those will come from your sides cic.  :aok

lol this is what I was referring to saying "wait a minute these are the AXIS objectives.... why do I have these?"
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 01, 2012, 01:47:03 PM
lol this is what I was referring to saying "wait a minute these are the AXIS objectives.... why do I have these?"


 it's all good.  it's a lesson learned to me. i know next time to be sure to email an update when i do that again.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: DrBone1 on August 01, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
 :rofl

Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: perdue3 on August 01, 2012, 04:05:49 PM
Sorry butcher, it escaped me that you guys are still new to FSO. I am sure Top Gun's numbers will be low this month though, that is an issue. Sorry for the misunderstanding <S>
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 01, 2012, 04:24:31 PM
i think you guys will still have fun. i mean....c'mon......who COULDN'T have fun with streams and streams of b17's and b24's to shoot at?  :devil
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: ELD66 on August 01, 2012, 04:51:37 PM
FSO is not a scenario. You do not always get the side assignment that you want. Keep in mind the more setups a squad is Axis raises the probability that the squad will then be switched to allied. For some reason Kommando Notwany is exempt from this, hopefully it will be rectified in future. Also Perdweeb, in the eyes of many FSO squads KN is just as new to FSO as Topgun.
 :salute
AKElD613
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: perdue3 on August 01, 2012, 04:55:10 PM
Fair point, but I believe they are newer unless my math has failed me.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Butcher on August 01, 2012, 04:58:52 PM
lol were newer then KN, but made entirely of veteran players.

For example I was CO of Kommando N. in 2005 :)

Was a squad project that didn't work out, just as MiamiAce ran it before, and KyleT before.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Spikes on August 01, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
FSO is not a scenario. You do not always get the side assignment that you want. Keep in mind the more setups a squad is Axis raises the probability that the squad will then be switched to allied. For some reason Kommando Notwany is exempt from this, hopefully it will be rectified in future. Also Perdweeb, in the eyes of many FSO squads KN is just as new to FSO as Topgun.
 :salute
AKElD613
It has been stated that Axis are always the low numbers side. Why would you switch someone that wants to fly Axis to Allied? That just means you will have to switch someone who prefers to fly Allied over to Axis...which makes no sense.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: perdue3 on August 01, 2012, 07:09:15 PM
MiamiAce and I formed JG 7 "Nowotny". It disbanded because Miami and I quit the game. When I came back you were CO of JG 7 "Nowotny". I am not sure if you started a new squad or took over the old one. I am sure your squad didnt work out because of your F-18 duties. I formed KN with an entire new batch of people. The two squads have nothing in common other than having Nowotny in the title.

I have been playing for a while too Butcher. Why are we arguing over who has played the longest anyway. My point is, the group of guys that are in TG do not seem cut out for FSO. This has been shown in the last two setups.

Let us move on. Excited about this month's setup!
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 01, 2012, 07:10:21 PM
MiamiAce and I formed JG 7 "Nowotny". It disbanded because Miami and I quit the game. When I came back you were CO of JG 7 "Nowotny". I am not sure if you started a new squad or took over the old one. I am sure your squad didnt work out because of your F-18 duties. I formed KN with an entire new batch of people. The two squads have nothing in common other than having Nowotny in the title.

I have been playing for a while too Butcher. Why are we arguing over who has played the longest anyway. My point is, the group of guys that are in TG do not seem cut out for FSO. This has been shown in the last two setups.

Let us move on. Excited about this month's setup!
bolded......that's what i'm striving for.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: DrBone1 on August 02, 2012, 01:40:49 AM
You can word it an read into as much as you're 4ft tall heart desire.

But Just a reminder when we come around to being CIC All other Squads that were assigned during these past 2 setups will be remembered.  :D

Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: kilo2 on August 02, 2012, 02:35:10 AM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Butcher on August 02, 2012, 07:45:13 AM
My point is, the group of guys that are in TG do not seem cut out for FSO. This has been shown in the last two setups.

Let us move on. Excited about this month's setup!

Really please explain why we are not cut out for FSO? I make one remark about getting the WRONG orders for the wrong SIDE and its automatically your attempt at trolling calling us babies for not getting the rides we want. Your ignorance or trolling simply failed.
Actually CAP1 pointed out it as a simple mistake and they will notify next time to avoid confusion which was all it was. I was confused getting the AXIS Objectives which I thought were the AXIS orders.
Now - lets just say WE WERE allied, and I got the AXIS Orders, NOW you see why I asked about it? I didn't want any issues about it, I had no clue we were SWITCHED to axis.

Were not going away any time soon, might as well just get used to fact were here to play and have fun.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 02, 2012, 07:53:40 AM
My point is, the group of guys that are in TG do not seem cut out for FSO. This has been shown in the last two setups.
!

dude.......c'mon.......please knock this stuff off.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 02, 2012, 08:33:24 AM
Really please explain why we are not cut out for FSO? I make one remark about getting the WRONG orders for the wrong SIDE and its automatically your attempt at trolling calling us babies for not getting the rides we want. Your ignorance or trolling simply failed.
Actually CAP1 pointed out it as a simple mistake and they will notify next time to avoid confusion which was all it was. I was confused getting the AXIS Objectives which I thought were the AXIS orders.
Now - lets just say WE WERE allied, and I got the AXIS Orders, NOW you see why I asked about it? I didn't want any issues about it, I had no clue we were SWITCHED to axis.

Were not going away any time soon, might as well just get used to fact were here to play and have fun.


 bear in mind.....this was my mistake, not the rest of the cm team.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Bino on August 02, 2012, 09:52:14 AM
Here is a quote from a thread back in June on the topic of choosing up sides for FSO:

We try and divide it up as best we can but the ratio split takes precedence. We can't have a lopsided setup based on what squad preferences are. That being said there has been no change to the way that we assign squads in FSO that I am aware.  

Quote
But in times gone past squads who flew for the same side more than about 3 scenario's were often shifted to the opposite side for a scenario regardless of their request

Not really, what we do is we look and see if we can fill up the two sides first with those that made requests to a specific side (Allied and Axis) and then we fill in with the squads that made no preference. After that...if the sides are not balanced as per the design we have to make changes. We do look and see if a squad has a history of not getting the side they want and try to be fair. Its very difficult to juggle all that but we do our best. Typically but not always we have more squads ask for Allied than we have room for and some usually have to go Axis. Thats not hard and fast but thats the overall trend right now.

If for example a squad asked for Allied and got it in the last 3 or 4 setups and I am looking for a squad to switch to Axis? well, yes, they might be in the running to be moved compared to a squad that asked for Allied 3 or 4 times and has been Axis 3 times in a row. Fair is fair yes? As I said with squads being different sizes and setups with different ratios its a tight fit to get everybodys request but we do try. We take into account if they are a PACIFIC or ETO historic squad, historic ride, ect.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 02, 2012, 11:36:42 AM
CIC'S

please get orders out!!! we're down to the wire!!

 thanks!!
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: SlipKnt on August 02, 2012, 01:12:18 PM
The side thing is something that happens when balancing is needed.  We go through it (as well as every squad) but either way, we have fun because we enjoy FSO.  Not getting a side request isn't anything new.  But sometimes you simply don't get the side request because of the CMs working to balance it out as much as possible.  I don't believe there is any offense intended. 

Also, I still haven't seen orders for Axis yet.  Anyone with intel on when we can expect to see them?

Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 02, 2012, 01:15:57 PM
The side thing is something that happens when balancing is needed.  We go through it (as well as every squad) but either way, we have fun because we enjoy FSO.  Not getting a side request isn't anything new.  But sometimes you simply don't get the side request because of the CMs working to balance it out as much as possible.  I don't believe there is any offense intended. 

Also, I still haven't seen orders for Axis yet.  Anyone with intel on when we can expect to see them?



 if jaegr1 doesn't have em by tonight, i'm gonna sick shifty on him. if shifty's busy, i'll go call storch, and sick him on him.  :devil :bolt:
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: DH367th on August 02, 2012, 01:24:19 PM
Allied orders out butch perdue chill guys your both friends hell you wanna play the age game on being here  :devil  Dr.s guys are good guys so is Kn seems you both trying to make a forset fire out of nothing let it go both you bigger than this. Cap sorry was a day late seems this fso just a little behind I am sure by this evening jager1 will have out you scum sucking axis orders :O
Not that it will help you guys much :salute happy hunting boys
DH
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 02, 2012, 01:27:29 PM
Allied orders out butch perdue chill guys your both friends hell you wanna play the age game on being here  :devil  Dr.s guys are good guys so is Kn seems you both trying to make a forset fire out of nothing let it go both you bigger than this. Cap sorry was a day late seems this fso just a little behind I am sure by this evening jager1 will have out you scum sucking axis orders :O
Not that it will help you guys much :salute happy hunting boys
DH

 it should be me apologizing to you. i was the one that got the objectives out a little late, and i will not let that happen again.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: captain1ma on August 02, 2012, 01:35:13 PM
orders are out for axis! PFA!
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 02, 2012, 01:36:00 PM
orders are out for axis! PFA!
:aok
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Butcher on August 02, 2012, 01:51:24 PM
Allied orders out butch perdue chill guys your both friends hell you wanna play the age game on being here  :devil  Dr.s guys are good guys so is Kn seems you both trying to make a forset fire out of nothing let it go both you bigger than this. Cap sorry was a day late seems this fso just a little behind I am sure by this evening jager1 will have out you scum sucking axis orders :O
Not that it will help you guys much :salute happy hunting boys
DH

Who woke grandpa from his nap? Boy he gets grouchy when he doesn't get his denny's 4am senior breakfast :)

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: DrBone1 on August 02, 2012, 03:18:32 PM
 :salute    :cheers:
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: perdue3 on August 02, 2012, 04:05:54 PM
Allied orders out butch perdue chill guys your both friends hell you wanna play the age game on being here  :devil  Dr.s guys are good guys so is Kn seems you both trying to make a forset fire out of nothing let it go both you bigger than this. Cap sorry was a day late seems this fso just a little behind I am sure by this evening jager1 will have out you scum sucking axis orders :O
Not that it will help you guys much :salute happy hunting boys
DH

Always a pleasure to hear wisdom from the mentor.
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Tull on August 02, 2012, 04:33:11 PM
Butcher/Perdue,

 I have squaded with both of you over the years and flew on your wings more times that I can count.  You are both good guys.  In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Why can't we all just get along?"

Tull
 :joystick:


"Oddball: [groans] Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning. Think the bridge will be there and it will be there. It's a mother, beautiful bridge, and it's gonna be there. Ok?"
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Butcher on August 02, 2012, 04:37:20 PM
Butcher/Perdue,

 I have squaded with both of you over the years and flew on your wings more times that I can count.  You are both good guys.  In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Why can't we all just get along?"

Tull
 :joystick:


"Oddball: [groans] Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning. Think the bridge will be there and it will be there. It's a mother, beautiful bridge, and it's gonna be there. Ok?"

Puff puff pass:)
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: CAP1 on August 02, 2012, 05:42:20 PM


 this just in.......

 AXIS CIC for frame 2 will be JG11, and CIC for frame 3 will be the Swampdragons.

 thanks guys!!
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Stampf on August 02, 2012, 06:28:20 PM

 this just in.......

 AXIS CIC for frame 2 will be JG11, and CIC for frame 3 will be the Swampdragons.

 thanks guys!!

<S> and Big Thanks to SwampDragons.   

Believe me, everyone would rather get orders from Bino, than myself.

 
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Bino on August 02, 2012, 10:10:09 PM

Thanks, Swampdragons, for being flexible.   :salute

<S> and Big Thanks to SwampDragons.   

Believe me, everyone would rather get orders from Bino, than myself.
 
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: Squire on August 02, 2012, 10:21:39 PM
Appreciated guys.  :salute
Title: Re: Squad Sides & CIC The Battle over Munich 1944
Post by: razmataz on August 03, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
When I first started flying FSO I never wanted to fly Axis. But some of the best and funnest FSO's were done on the Axis side and with planes I really did not want to fly. Personally I think switching sides is one of the things that keeps FSO from getting stale. Plus I get to fly with and or against guys I wouldn't normally fly with in the MA do to country differences.