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Title: A List of Planes
Post by: tuton25 on August 01, 2012, 07:55:42 PM
HE-111 H3
Length-16.6meters
Wingspan-22.6meters
Powerplant- x2 Junkers Jumo 211d-1 inverted v-12 piston engines (1,200 HP each)
Top speed-270MpH
Crew-5
Armament- x4 7.92mm MG15, x8 250kg bombs or x32 50kg bombs or x2 torpedos
Defensive Gun Positions-Nose, Dorsal Rearward, Ventral Forward, Ventral Rearward
Number built (all variants)-6,508
Major actions- Spanish civil war, Invasion of Poland, Battle of Britain, Operation barbarossa, Battle of Stalingrad
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-385-0587-07%2C_Flugzeug_Heinkel_He_111_H-Z.jpg)
DO-17Z
Length-15.8meters
Wingspan-18meters
Powerplant- x2 MW Bramo 323P Fafnir Nine-Cylinder Radial engines (1,000 HP each)
Top Speed-263MpH
Crew-4
Armament- x6 7.92mm MG15, x4 250kg bombs or x20 50kg bombs
Defensive Gun Positions- x2 Fixed Nose Guns, x2 Ventral Rearward, x2 Dorsal Rearward
Number Built (all variants)-2,139
Major Actions- Spanish Civil War, Invasion of Poland, Invasion of Norway, Battle of Britian, Operation Barbarossa, Invasion of Yugoslavia
(http://battleofbritain.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/x003-2674-943-dornier-do17-hendon.jpg)
Boulton Paul Defiant Mk.I
Length-10.77meters
Wingspan-12meters
Powerplant- Rolls-Royce Merlin III V-12 Piston Engine (1,030 HP)
Top Speed-302MpH
Crew-2
Armament- x4 .303 Browning Machine Guns
Defensive gun positions- Dorsal
Number Built (all variants)-1,064
Major actions- Battle of Britian
(http://www.timemoneyandblood.com/images/aircraftBritish/Defiant.jpg)
Bristol Beaufighter Mk.If
Length-12.6 meters
Wingspan-17.63 meters
Powerplant- x2 Bristol Hercules XI air-cooled engines (1,500 HP each)
Top Speed- 306MpH
Crew-2
Armament- x4 20mm Hispanos, x6 .303 Browning Machine Guns, x8 60lbs rockets or x2 1000lbs bombs or x1 450mm torpedo
Defensive gun positions- N/A
Number Built-5,928
Major actions- Battle of Britian, New Guinea, Southeast Asia, Southwest Pacific
(http://www.timemoneyandblood.com/images/aircraftBritish/Beaufighter.jpg)
Plus more to come.....
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Tracerfi on August 01, 2012, 07:59:43 PM
Fairy Swordfish Fairy Swordfish Fairy Swordfish  Fairy Swordfish
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 01, 2012, 08:06:06 PM
Defiant really has no place in this game as no one would fly it.  Just because a plane flew during the war doesn't always mean it will be a good addition to the game.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: titanic3 on August 01, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
Defiant and Do-17 would be complete hangar queens. So would the 111, but it'll see plenty of use in the SEA, as would the Beaufighter, which makes it an excellent addition.

Add the Vickers Wellington and we can have one heck of a BoB event.

Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: AceHavok on August 02, 2012, 01:04:27 AM
B-25J!!!!! And all the early war bombers aswell!  :x
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: R 105 on August 02, 2012, 08:12:21 AM
 I bet folks will fly the HE-111 in the game even if they get shot down a lot. After flying the B-25 when it first came to the game I didn't think it would see much use but I was wrong. I see it all the time in bomber formation in LW. I think that will be true of the HE-111 depending on what version we get and defensive gun package is on it.
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: icepac on August 03, 2012, 09:19:55 AM
I'm curious what data you guys use to predict a hangar queen before you have flown it.

I've flown all of these planes (and more) in other sims for years and none are the hangar queens some of you are predicting.
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Karnak on August 03, 2012, 09:40:22 AM
I'm curious what data you guys use to predict a hangar queen before you have flown it.
Performance and capability.

Players flock to the Spitfire as it is famous and easy to use, right?  How many of those Spitfires are the Mk Ia?  Why do you think that is true?

Why do you think the P-51D gets used so much more than the P-40N?
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: icepac on August 03, 2012, 09:47:41 AM
That explains why we don't have the japanese plane that shot down more enemy than any other in game.
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Tracerfi on August 03, 2012, 09:48:38 AM
That explains why we don't have the japanese plane that shot down more enemy than any other in game.
what is that
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Karnak on August 03, 2012, 11:06:00 AM
what is that
Ki-43.
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Slade on August 03, 2012, 11:17:16 AM
+1 for the Ki-43
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Karnak on August 03, 2012, 11:20:35 AM
Ki-43 I'd use on occasion because it would be fun.  Defiant would not be fun and would thus not get used by me.
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Volron on August 03, 2012, 11:30:10 AM
+1 to all these planes.  Toss in the TBD Devastator as well. :D  I'd fly them all in the MA, even if it meant certain death. :aok
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Tracerfi on August 03, 2012, 11:54:53 AM
+1 to all these planes.  Toss in the TBD Devastator as well. :D  I'd fly them all in the MA, even if it meant certain death. :aok
Same :bolt:
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Butcher on August 03, 2012, 12:06:08 PM
TBD Devastator really would only be added for 1 theater involving in 2 campaigns - it was phased out in 1942, unless Aces high starts running out of planes to add, there is no way this thing is getting added any time soon same with Bristol Paul Defiant.
 
Paul Defiant = No forward guns, No bombs - it simply carried a rear turret with 4x 303s. Sure you might fly it once with a squadmate, but when is the next time you are ever going to see one?
Plenty of EW-LW that made more of an impact during the war, lets not simply throw planes on the list that just because they served doesn't mean it needs to be added right away.

My vote for EW plane would be Gloster Gladiator, if we so need or want something so slow and under gunned then this would be my choice.

I'd love to see how much ammo is used up just trying to shoot down an I-16.


Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 03, 2012, 12:25:13 PM
Paul Defiant = No forward guns, No bombs - it simply carried a rear turret with 4x 303s. Sure you might fly it once with a squadmate, but when is the next time you are ever going to see one?


That's why the Defiant would be a hanger queen.  It would be nothing more than a target drone if flown solo and even with a gunner would still be little more than a target drone.  What other sim modeled the Defiant?  I know WB didn't when I played but that was back in the late '90s.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: tuton25 on August 03, 2012, 03:11:43 PM
That's why the Defiant would be a hanger queen.  It would be nothing more than a target drone if flown solo and even with a gunner would still be little more than a target drone.  What other sim modeled the Defiant?  I know WB didn't when I played but that was back in the late '90s.

ack-ack

When I fly in the WW1 arena I use the F.2 with the tail gun and I get most of my kills that way 'cause most people don't remember its there.....
...I can just see a guy in a P-51 think he's sneaking up on a hurricane and gets a face full of .303
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Butcher on August 03, 2012, 03:47:07 PM
When I fly in the WW1 arena I use the F.2 with the tail gun and I get most of my kills that way 'cause most people don't remember its there.....
...I can just see a guy in a P-51 think he's sneaking up on a hurricane and gets a face full of .303

You are talking AVA with no Icons period, in the FSO, Scenarios, Snapshots, Main Arenas there is an icon that won't show Hurri but "Defiant" since its not apart of a plane set from the Hurricanes.

Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: tuton25 on August 05, 2012, 09:14:34 AM
If I'm not mistaken the Defiant was designed to be similar to the Hurricane so it would be easier to get parts and repairs.
Also most captured German pilots that were shot down by a Defiant reported that they thought it was a Hurricane.
Title: Re: A List of Planes
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 06, 2012, 04:46:24 PM
Also most captured German pilots that were shot down by a Defiant reported that they thought it was a Hurricane.

Because they didn't have icons over the plane that when you got close the icon will display "Defiant" like it does in AH.  That's why no one would mistake it for a Hurricane in AH and no matter how good of as stick is in the Defaint, it will always be at such a severe disadvantage that the player would have been better off leaving it in the hanger and take up a real fighter with forward firing machine guns.

ack-ack