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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Tilt on August 02, 2012, 03:55:31 PM
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I would wish that we had to (also) achieve 2 perk points before we got any attaboys................
Given that we are all quite shallow, easily gratified pilits in vain search of glory amongst our fellow players I believe it would induce a tendency toward less uber ac (with higher perk reward) within the MA. Of course those of us who don't care about attaboys but enjoy the uber rides can continue as we do now.......................... .
This would apply equally to kill points and bomber points such that those of us landing 112 bomber points in B29's can avoid embarrassment............... :lol
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+1 It would clean up the radio bar.
MH
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anyone know the command to stop all the atta boys?
semp
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I'm game....list perks earned instead of kills. Might make people aware of farmer planes.
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You mean stop people from texting "wtg" unless you get 2 perks? So what you are really asking for is a sliding scale of aircraft that announce landings with kills? Spit 1 would be one kill but a P-51 would be at least six?
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I'm game....list perks earned instead of kills. Might make people aware of farmer planes.
you can farm perks with any airplane if that's what somebody really wants to do.
semp
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+1 ....
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You mean stop people from texting "wtg" unless you get 2 perks? So what you are really asking for is a sliding scale of aircraft that announce landings with kills? Spit 1 would be one kill but a P-51 would be at least six?
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That does seem to be what he is asking. As a 51D driver I can see why you wouldn't like it though.
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That does seem to be what he is asking. As a 51D driver I can see why you wouldn't like it though.
What he is asking for is the same thing every noob in the game tries at least once. He wants the game changed to favor his methods.
What exactly do you think will happen? How is this different from weighing score more toward kills per death over kills per time? You really should think before you speak Karnak.
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Why not wish for the kill message to be generated only when you have 3 kills in a fighter and damage equal to 2000 in a bomber?
The majority of players have beginner or general skills. The current HOST reward message is to help them feel good about playing the game and feeling the product is worth investing a monthly $14.95. I've only ever heard wishes of this nature from long time accomplished players who do not consider the good of the whole game over their own. These wishes usualy disregard the requirment of management to keep a revenue stream by instituting carrots and brass rings easy to grasp by the many rather than the accomplished Few.
This is not like government where the accomplished pay the majority of the taxes and influence offcials to arrange the country in their favor. It's a capitolistic business where everyone's money payed on time makes them equals. Your achivement level and time in grade playing the game does not equal paying your bill on time.
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What he is asking for is the same thing every noob in the game tries at least once. He wants the game changed to favor his methods.
What exactly do you think will happen? How is this different from weighing score more toward kills per death over kills per time? You really should think before you speak Karnak.
Excuse me? It seems you didn't understand what I was saying. Also, his request doesn't sound like a method to favor a flying style so much as a method to reduce the SYSTEM spam.
I was neither agreeing with it nor disagreeing with it. I was noting that you are very defensive about anything that you perceive as an attack on the P-51D though.
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Excuse me? It seems you didn't understand what I was saying. Also, his request doesn't sound like a method to favor a flying style so much as a method to reduce the SYSTEM spam.
I was neither agreeing with it nor disagreeing with it. I was noting that you are very defensive about anything that you perceive as an attack on the P-51D though.
Not at all. I can see with clarity what this will bring about. It wont change what I do or how I do it in the least. I did notice you took the time to try to turn it on me but yes this wish is nothing more than a contrived method to favor his (Tilts) style of playing. Its obvious you cant see it.
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Not at all. I can see with clarity what this will bring about. It wont change what I do or how I do it in the least. I did notice you took the time to try to turn it on me but yes this wish is nothing more than a contrived method to favor his (Tilts) style of playing. Its obvious you cant see it.
How does it significantly favor his method of playing? It is inconsequential.
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Karnak please try to engage some thought to this.
You know that most of the players are not able to land many kills at all. While those that do many times get a string of "wtg's" in the text buffer. The weak complaint here is that the wtg's force tactical information to scroll off the screen (mostly who you just killed). However there is another side to this and that is the players that want to see their names displayed. Now here is the hard part for you (so far).
What effect will this have on the plane types the players that wish to have their names in light will fly? And then consider the types of planes Tilt flies (and myself too). Its like allowing late war planes in mid war.
Bad idea.
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Karnak please try to engage some thought to this.
You know that most of the players are not able to land many kills at all. While those that do many times get a string of "wtg's" in the text buffer. The weak complaint here is that the wtg's force tactical information to scroll off the screen (mostly who you just killed). However there is another side to this and that is the players that want to see their names displayed. Now here is the hard part for you (so far).
What effect will this have on the plane types the players that wish to have their names in light will fly? And then consider the types of planes Tilt flies (and myself too). Its like allowing late war planes in mid war.
Bad idea.
I've no idea what tilt flies as I didn't check. I know what you fly because you advocate for it to be buffed constantly.
Personally I don't care one way or another as far as this request goes.
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How about color coding the system message that says how many kills someone landed by ENY mismatch?
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How about color coding the system message that says how many kills someone landed by ENY mismatch?
it's been suggested before, but i'll suggest it again.
[system] <player> landed <kills> for <perk points> in a <plane> of <squad>
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I've no idea what tilt flies as I didn't check. I know what you fly because you advocate for it to be buffed constantly.
Personally I don't care one way or another as far as this request goes.
And if his request goes forward I will kill even more airplanes and yet I am against it. I wonder why? :rolleyes:
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How about instead, a check box under flight preferences to disable display of your victories landed? :headscratch:
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anyone know the command to stop all the atta boys?
semp
Squelch 6 bars the system kill messages.
Squelch 1 does the same for salutes.
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How about instead, a check box under flight preferences to disable display of your victories landed? :headscratch:
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Since I rarely land successfully (tank of course) i'm talking last month 520 sorties 101 landed :lol, Maybe a message like
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<insert player here> could have landed <x> kills if he hadn't a screwed up and gotten himself kilt :banana:
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Squelch 6 bars the system kill messages.
Squelch 1 does the same for salutes.
Tilt here this should help you when system messages annoy you.
semp
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Its a self-propagating wish. You want less attaboys so you force people to fly lesser planes. The better planes kill more of the lesser planes and the same attaboys are repeated.
A little thought goes a long way! :aok
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is nothing more than a contrived method to favor his (Tilts) style of playing. Its obvious you cant see it.
Given (except for a couple of recent tours) my tendancy to fly the La7 this suggestion would be the reverse of what you suggest........ Infact it is rare that I land more than 2 kills per sortie and ( in the La7) even rarer that it earns more than 2 perks.
The suggestion is that to get an attaboy you have to get at least 2 perks as well as the threshold that exists now (2 kills or some bomber points)
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I think Chalenge is judging you by the way he himself would behave, and thinks that your idea is to encourage people to fly more high ENY rides so that you can more easily kill them with your LA7 :D
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Ahhh sorry now I see the accusation..........
I am sure challenge does not farm lesser ac in this way ........... I can only offer my assurance that this was not my motivation, neither ( in retrospect ) do I think it would be the result if it was put into practice. The change would be a subtle one at best IMO but welcome none the less in as much as it would give greater possibility of wtg's to pilits either with higher envy planes with fewer kills or lower envy planes with more kills
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No need for accusations. But the current system message that only displays kills leaves a lot out. For instance some kills are so mismatched they're just easy, easier kills can come in the form of proxies. Perhaps a code for bombers shot down while looking through their norton.
Yesterday I laned 4 in a B-29, however I deserved no WTG's or ATTABOYS because all I did to get them was carpet bomb a busy runway. Poorly.
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I think Chalenge is judging you by the way he himself would behave, and thinks that your idea is to encourage people to fly more high ENY rides so that you can more easily kill them with your LA7 :D
Given your constant lack of reading comprehension I can see how you would think the total opposite of what I pointed out. Nice reasoning.
Let me reiterate it so you 'chalenged' individuals can grasp it. Your favorite ride being an La7 you would be running into higher ENY planes (not lower) so that even one kill would net someone a landed kill sortie and the attaboy message. Its not hard to see since quite often I land two perks even flying a P-51D. Sure the La7 will then require at least three kills. So what? All you have to do is rearm and since you are fighting against much less capable planes now that every noob in the arena wants his name in lights... you will have a much easier time.
Transparent is what this wish is despite your attempted insults its you boys that stand out as the ones trying to make things easier for you.
Im not impressed by either of you.
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the total opposite of what I pointed out
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Your favorite ride being an La7 you would be running into higher ENY planes (not lower)...
since you are fighting against much less capable planes now that every noob in the arena wants his name in lights... you will have a much easier time
that's basically what I said genius
i just find it funny that you would ascribe such an underhand motivation to Tilt's request. if it's not because you are the sort of bad sport that you are trying to paint him as, then it must be because you are a generic P-51D scrub pilot who feels this request would make it harder to get a name in lights ;o which is it?
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Im not impressed by either of you.
We arent impressed by you either. 1:1
Anyway, i like a good old-fashioned self-promo, my best was 82.69 in a g6, for 12 kills on mostly spixteens, ponies and dhogs, in 45 mins, 1 rearm. I never went above 8K.
You know, im average at best. Beat this, if you can take a "challenge".
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that's basically what I said genius
i just find it funny that you would ascribe such an underhand motivation to Tilt's request. if it's not because you are the sort of bad sport that you are trying to paint him as, then it must be because you are a generic P-51D scrub pilot who feels this request would make it harder to get a name in lights ;o which is it?
Ha! You cant get to me coombz. I know what you are.
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We arent impressed by you either. 1:1
Anyway, i like a good old-fashioned self-promo, my best was 82.69 in a g6, for 12 kills on mostly spixteens, ponies and dhogs, in 45 mins, 1 rearm. I never went above 8K.
You know, im average at best. Beat this, if you can take a "challenge".
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Beat that long ago Debrody. Coming from the queen of whiners thats a powerful boast you made. Keep trying. :aok
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We arent impressed by you either. 1:1
Anyway, i like a good old-fashioned self-promo, my best was 82.69 in a g6, for 12 kills on mostly spixteens, ponies and dhogs, in 45 mins, 1 rearm. I never went above 8K.
You know, im average at best. Beat this, if you can take a "challenge".
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mine was 2.86 for 11 kills in a ponyd :D. that was a good day. only 6 kills were with rocket vulches :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:.
semp
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anyone know the command to stop all the atta boys?
semp
IIRC , try a .squelch 1
Read page 1 and replied, Hap beat me to it with Reply #20.
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Beat that long ago Debrody. Coming from the queen of whiners thats a powerful boast you made. Keep trying. :aok
Good Sir, nice insult attempt, but i can take it. Still, if i were you, i would prove myself before opening my mouth to show my forked toungue, not only picking from 20k or concrete sitting in tiger2s.
Cause i cant get up to your unrivalled skills. As long as i cant find you withouth holding all the cards.
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Its a self-propagating wish. You want less attaboys so you force people to fly lesser planes. The better planes kill more of the lesser planes and the same attaboys are repeated.
A little thought goes a long way! :aok
Kill 2 P51D in your P51D and you have 2 perks. The single digit ENY planes are quite abundant and these are the planes A noob is most likely to vulc... kill anyway. At the same time, I bet that in at least in 2/3 encounters in the LMA, the C205 will beat the P51D (can this be queried in the statistics?), just because of who tends to fly them.
I cannot see how this will make any significant difference to anyone.
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At the same time, I bet that in at least in 2/3 encounters in the LMA, the C205 will beat the P51D (can this be queried in the statistics?), just because of who tends to fly them.
Can it be queried? Of course it can! Stats pages, Plane Stats, click on the C205 kills and see how often it killed the P-51. Then go back, click on C205 deatsh and see how often it was shot down by P-51D. And if you do that for several tours, you get an overall picture.
But lucky you, I have already done that for every plane/GV combination possible, for all tours :D For example, in all of 2011, the C.205 had 2,552 kills vs. 2,856 deaths against the D-Pony. So the Pony 'won' ~53% of the (conclusive) encounters.
To not entirely hijack this thread, here's my take on the OP:
My question: what is an 'attaboy'? Who is being targeted by this proposal, and what would it be good for? Because the only players that would be affected are the mass of new players, n00bs and other folks who are only occasionally capable of killing two planes in the P-51D and landing it.
For all that are able to regularly able to do that (which is the minority of players in any given tour) and getting their WTG's, it's quite easy to get over this threshhold. They will still get all the "attention".
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My question: what is an 'attaboy'? Who is being targeted by this proposal, and what would it be good for? Because the only players that would be affected are the mass of new players, n00bs and other folks who are only occasionally capable of killing two planes in the P-51D and landing it.
For all that are able to regularly able to do that (which is the minority of players in any given tour) and getting their WTG's, it's quite easy to get over this threshhold. They will still get all the "attention".
Also bomber pilits returning with less than 2 perks would lose their attaboys.
re Bozons maths we should also remember that the perk point multiplier would also play a role.
I would agree that the gameplay effect could be somewhat "subtle" but IMO it would motivate folk (who like attaboys) to fly higher eny ac and target lower eny ac.
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Then I would like to ask my question again: What is an attaboy (yes, this is a serious question), and who is this proposed limitation aimed at? Those constantly landing 2,3 4 and higher kills in their low eny rides, or those only occasionally being capable to so?
As is the proposal would hardly have any influence on plane choice, it's much weaker in it's effect than ENY limit and the massive reduction in perk gain players do suffer from flying a P-51D in the first place. Even when the ENY of the Pony was lowered to 5, with it's massive effect (ENY limiter, almost 40% in perk gain reduction), the usage numbers still went up.
If the goal of this proposal was to increase plane diversity, there would be much stronger tools than that - further lowering ENY, lowering the threshold at wich the ENY limiter kicks in, perking, making ENY part of the score calculation, perked ords system for fighters and so on.
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Well it is targetting a subtle push re plane diversity without penalising choice as much as a (harder) ENY limiter does or denying reward interms of modifying perks earned (even if they are only parts of a perk).
I doubt it would be earth shatteringly quatum in terms of its effect and I doubt that any "massive" change would be welcome anyway. If it "makes no difference" to many players but motivates some toward more diverse rides then "job done" IMO.
It may generate better appreciation of the attaboys when they are earned............ even in the examples given above the P51 landing two kills (and getting its attaboy) did take them against more capable ac. It didn't farm a proxy and shoot down a PT boat to earn the same plaudits.
Plus I return to the Bomber attaboy also.
So its not trying to "target" any one in a negative sense other than it's focussing reward upon achievement by adding the perks earned (and therefore the ENY value of the ride chosen) into the mix.
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I would like to see the "kill message" go up to 5. Ace in a flight or no message.
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I would like to see the "kill message" go up to 5. Ace in a flight or no message.
There would be long lines at the rearm pad. Good thing it is an asynchronous rearm pad at that, i.e. don't have to wait for guy in front of you.
I say keep the rearm pad and attaboy message as-is. Just put an asterisks (*) in the message if the rearm pad was used. Kinda like what the home run hitters of the baseball steroid era get in the record books if convicted of using steroids.
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I would like to see no kill messages for anyone with 2 or more years playing.
semp
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according to google, attaboy is bravo, I understand it as players seeking name in lights.
+1 on the wish, landing only 2 kills is a disgrace :P
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according to google, attaboy is bravo, I understand it as players seeking name in lights.
+1 on the wish, landing only 2 kills is a disgrace :P
no its a minimum of 2 kills for the message
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no its a minimum of 2 kills for the message
:headscratch: I know, but landing only 2 is a disgrace :D
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:headscratch: I know, but landing only 2 is a disgrace :D
Nope. Landing 10+ in a pony is. Couse that shows that youre a picker and nothing else.
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Nope. Landing 10+ in a pony is. Couse that shows that youre a picker and nothing else.
Dieing is the easy way out, surviving is much harder. You're just too weak to do it :banana:
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Just me and you, same planes, try to survive. I would even give you some alt advantage. Cant wait to save the film. ;)
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what do you want to wing with me?
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Guessing im too weak to wing with You. Appreciating the call tho.
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Just me and you, same planes, try to survive. I would even give you some alt advantage. Cant wait to save the film. ;)
I'll make a film
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no its a minimum of 2 kills for the message
Two kills in this game means that a actual person defeated two other persons, and then survived that encounter. You can argue all you want, but that is a pretty big deal if you think about it. Complain all you want, but the end result is that one player was successful in the destruction of at least two other players that share in the same ability to destroy them.
Law of averages...that's pretty impressive.
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Debrody you havent got a clue! I could land ten kills in a Spit1 and you would say I picked. The reason you say that is because its the only way YOU could do it.
I have had a kill streak of 305 without a death in the P-51. It took months because the majority of those kills were bombers. Now tell me how you pick a bomber exactly?
You really should think before you speak.
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Now tell me how you pick a bomber exactly?
Find one that is relatively low, just took off or is making his bomb run and make very high speed passes from the high 3, 5, 8 or 10 o'clock positions. :p
That is about as close as I can think of.
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If every thread were likened to a room where parents sent their kids to play, the adults would be in there inside of 5 minutes. Does all the blather gall anyone besides me?
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Debrody you havent got a clue! I could land ten kills in a Spit1 and you would say I picked. The reason you say that is because its the only way YOU could do it.
I have had a kill streak of 305 without a death in the P-51. It took months because the majority of those kills were bombers. Now tell me how you pick a bomber exactly?
You really should think before you speak.
you pick a bomber by diving from above. you didnt exactly fight the bomber as it is nearly impossible to fight them in the common sense that they had an equal chance of shooting you down. unless of course you approached all of them from their dead 6.
impressive thought, to spend so much time without a death, pick or not pick :aok.
semp
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You boys have obviously never fought anyone in a bomber... or at least not one that sees you coming. Except for airplanes without belly guns they can always shoot back and they can get very creative about making it impossible to even hit them. So I would say you just answered blindly.
Yes semp... plenty of times shot to pieces quite a few wounds but I also didnt create a "look at me" post in the general forum.