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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: NatCigg on August 03, 2012, 11:52:29 AM
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whenever i face a dr1 i just want to ho it and move on.
will any plane ever be able to outclass the dr1 and not make the situation worse?
who here can clam they are not afraid to face a dr1 in the ww1 arena, and how are you able to defeat the dr1?
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i think it should be perked.
dont get me wrong its my favorite plane.
even though f1 has similar turn ability the dr1 is far better for visibility and its gunnery stability is much greater than the f1 which is completely unstable.
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Shoot it with the F2B tail gunner because thats where it'll be. :aok
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Yes.
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Was it really this fast? All of the past stuff I have seen always had it topping out at about 70mph. Here it is barely slower than the F1 or DR7.
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Well for a WWI pro like myself....oh wait...I go into WWI about once every other month if the MA is down...well anyway at least now I know what to attempt to fly when I get into the WWI arena, thanks! :cheers:
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ya the dr1 ruins wat littl ww1 has to offer in my opinion
Shoot it with the F2B tail gunner because thats where it'll be. :aok
ussaly wat they due the best :D
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I think if other aircrafts were added the arena would be interesting.
I haven't flown WW1 sim since Red Baron and Red Baron II, even with all the bugs RB II had it was still an enjoyable game - allowing you to paint the aircrafts and add different markings as aces did.
If HTC could recreate the WW1 environment RB II had it would be quite enjoyable, however since HTC only has so much manpower to go around, I wouldn't want anything taken away from the WW2 arenas.
If he could? Few planes like nieuport 17, S.E.5.a and Albatros DIII would bring alive the arena.
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Of the four planes, Dr.I is the best 1 vs. 1 dog fighter.
Get in a furball and it's anybody's game.
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Change the map so it is not an on the deck arena & force the fight up higher & the Dr1 wont be as dominant.
My 2cents worth.
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Its the whinny wieners.
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It's like Michael Jordan playing against middle-schoolers
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It's like Michael Jordan playing against middle-schoolers
you got that right :rofl
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there is a WWI arena?
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If you fly the sopwith camel correctly that can out class the dr1
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I do believe that the DR1 is a bit too fast in that arena. Shouldn't the D7 be quite a bit faster :headscratch:
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BigRat
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I do believe that the DR1 is a bit too fast in that arena. Shouldn't the D7 be quite a bit faster :headscratch:
Historically, due to the nature of it's engine the Dr.I lost a lot of performance quickly and was in fact outclassed at the typical combat altitudes of late WWI.
However, in AH we are not flying at those alttudes. In the WW1 arena, the action is exlusively limited to furballing on the deck. Without being able to judge the FM in detail, I can still say that this combat environment is very much to the advantage of the Dr.I.
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If you fly the sopwith camel correctly that can out class the dr1
as evidenced by it's incredible kill ratio
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I tried all the planes in WWI arena and they all feel the same. Yank on the stick till you get on their 6. Seemed pretty boring to me. Although to be fair, I did have fun with friends in the F2b as a gunner. :)
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whenever i face a dr1 i just want to ho it and move on.
will any plane ever be able to outclass the dr1 and not make the situation worse?
who here can clam they are not afraid to face a dr1 in the ww1 arena, and how are you able to defeat the dr1?
:airplane:
:joystick:
why not just ask the other 2 guys that play there. why post it here? :D
semp
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The Fokker D.7 seems to pretty good against Dr.I's, at least when used correctly.
Get above them, and keep their energy low. They don't seem to be able to dive all that well, and they're usually pretty low to start out with.
Dr.I = spitfire
D.7 = 109/190 combination
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Seems like no matter what I read the speed of the DR.1 is from 95 to 104 mph while the D.VII is from 118 to 122 with a dive speed of 145+. Looks like our Dr.1 is faster than that. In Rise of Flight the Dr.1 is out classed in speed and clime by the D.VII or so it seems to me. I do not fly the WWI arena because all the planes are cannon fodder for the Dr.1.
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If the DR1 is that great of a plane why wouldn't you fly one and shoot everyone down? Each plane has its own strength and weakness and if you knew them any plane you flew could be a killer.
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I agree the D.VII is better in the vert then the DR1. The problem is getting enough of an E advanatage over the DR1 to take advantage of it, this is where the D.VII is either lacking in speed or the DR1 is too fast, or I have bad info. As Lusche mentioned maybe the D.VII is about the same speed on the deck as a DR1, will need more research :headscratch:
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BigRat
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Yeah, I've always read that the biggest disadvantage the Dr I had against the later fighters was its low speed.
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Yeah, I've always read that the biggest disadvantage the Dr I had against the later fighters was its low speed.
Unfortunately in here on the deck they are all fairly similar, only the F2B is fast enough to reliably pull away, but you are still open to fire for a good amount of time. Atleast you have a gunner to discourage a chase.
Maybe things are different with some alt, but not how we end up fighting.
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Unfortunately, I think the Dr I might be modeled too fast. I haven't seen anything that puts it around 120mph, and its pulling at least 115.
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Hey thats a dogfight arena, who the f cares about speeds??
Btw i have flown the D7 there for a couple sorties, didnt find them unbeatable unless a certain person was flying it.
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It can be done in a D7 F2B or an F1, the Camel is hands down the hardest plane in Aces High to fly well, but its like anything in Aces High if you are
prepared to put up with being killed a lot and experiment ways to kill any plane in any other plane will appear gradually.
Transitions between maneuvers in combat equates to angles, nowhere is this more apparent than the WW1 planeset, most don't notice it as much in the WW2 planeset because the higher speeds of the aircraft makes for more distance between 2 aircraft and therefore more opportunity to turn back into your opponent or for someone to simply run away.
A simple comparison would be say the DR1 vs the D7 in a vertical maneuver nose up nose down, try going from nose up to nose down in a vertical climb in both, you will see the DR1, because of the gyro takes a lot longer and the inline of the D7 swings down instantly down like pendulum. The DR1s gyro pulls it to the left at slow speed so take advantage of the inline engine of the D7 and do climbing right hand turns ending with a straight up vertical maneuver then use that extra transition speed to swing your nose over and get guns on the DR1.
Experiment, is pushing my nose down the fastest way to perform this maneuver? What if in the vert I left my plane hanging slightly to the left and used rudder as well as pushing the nose down, is it any faster? Does throttling the engine help get my nose down faster? You will die lots trying but you will find a pattern of success.
The less experienced pilots in WW1 tend to leave 'gaps' between their transitions it takes them longer to link maneuvers and they pay for it in angles with their deaths almost instantly.